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QB/WR Braxton Miller (B1G POY, National Champion, OSU HOF)

Dontre Wilson can't be happy.
I saw somewhere that Dontre may have had a setback from his foot over the summer. I think his breakout year will be 2016. Most likely a senior (vs. a redshirt junior; he'll still play in 2015), and in addition to that good chance Samuel moves back to HB after Zeke goes pro (presumably early). Then obviously Braxton will graduate. If Jalin says mostly outside in 2016 (or outside chance of going pro early) Dontre could be the main guy at H.
 
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"Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational Buckeye Battle Station!"
To be fair, the Empire fell short of the galactic championship that year.
 
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Charles Woodson?

That's not quite what I was talking about. Charles Woodson was a Heisman-caliber player - mostly at cornerback, but he also played some receiver and punt returner. Maybe kick returner too. Was he a Heisman-caliber receiver?

What I'm talking about is if Miller, who finished in the conversation (how's that for an ambiguous description?) for the Heisman as a quarterback, finishes in the conversation (again) for the Heisman at wide receiver/h-back/whatever.
 
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That's not quite what I was talking about. Charles Woodson was a Heisman-caliber player - mostly at cornerback, but he also played some receiver and punt returner. Maybe kick returner too. Was he a Heisman-caliber receiver?

What I'm talking about is if Miller, who finished in the conversation (how's that for an ambiguous description?) for the Heisman as a quarterback, finishes in the conversation (again) for the Heisman at wide receiver/h-back/whatever.

"Heisman-caliber receiver" is an impossible standard. Let's just end that talk right now. The last WR to win that award was Desmond Howard (barf) in 1991. Only three WRs have ever won the award. Despite the fact that WRs are more integral to the college game than ever before, none of them are ever really seriously in the discussion. I mean, some of them get invited to the ceremony, but nobody ever considers a WR a serious contender.

Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson are three of the most dominant receivers I've ever seen. None of them could win the award. Fitzgerald came the closest, and he still lost out to a chump-ass QB with no knees. Even as a huge Braxton Miller fan, I would never argue that he'll be in the same stratosphere as a college WR as those three were.

The good thing is, Miller doesn't have to be in the Heisman discussion to play a huge role for this team. Hell, I'm glad I get to see one more season of him in the scarlet and gray. Ten months ago I wasn't sure I'd be sitting here saying that. Stop putting these hyperbolic labels on him and just enjoy the ride.
 
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I'll go on record and say this about his season coming up: he has a legitimate chance to score 5 TD's rushing, 5 TD's receiving and 5 TD's passing. Add in a couple return TD's and some serious yardage and who knows. :pimp:

He's going to be fun to watch without a doubt in this offense.
 
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"Heisman-caliber receiver" is an impossible standard. Let's just end that talk right now. The last WR to win that award was Desmond Howard (barf) in 1991. Only three WRs have ever won the award. Despite the fact that WRs are more integral to the college game than ever before, none of them are ever really seriously in the discussion. I mean, some of them get invited to the ceremony, but nobody ever considers a WR a serious contender.

Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson are three of the most dominant receivers I've ever seen. None of them could win the award. Fitzgerald came the closest, and he still lost out to a chump-ass QB with no knees. Even as a huge Braxton Miller fan, I would never argue that he'll be in the same stratosphere as a college WR as those three were.

The good thing is, Miller doesn't have to be in the Heisman discussion to play a huge role for this team. Hell, I'm glad I get to see one more season of him in the scarlet and gray. Ten months ago I wasn't sure I'd be sitting here saying that. Stop putting these hyperbolic labels on him and just enjoy the ride.

Agreed that WRs are integral to the college game, but with the spread, the offense isn't dependent on one WR but multiple, so that practically eliminates almost any WRs. As good as Braxton could be at H back, our best overall WR is Mike Thomas and he won't come close to the Heisman top 20.

And yet again agreed, that Braxton isn't needed to be All world, or even All conference. If Braxton plays his role, and has solid hands and can make people miss or not go down on immediate contact, he can make some explosive plays in the offense, but the depth of the HBs allows that he should be fresh and not be relied upon to make all of the offensive plays like in 2012 or 2013.
 
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If Braxton plays his role, and has solid hands and can make people miss or not go down on immediate contact, he can make some explosive plays in the offense, but the depth of the HBs allows that he should be fresh and not be relied upon to make all of the offensive plays like in 2012 or 2013.

Making people miss and catching the ball are the two things I'm least concerned with. The "catching passes" part especially is overstated whenever a QB switches positions. He's been catching footballs all his life.

The biggest things are will he know and sell the route tree, and can he throw blocks? If he can't do either of those he's just a more agile version of Dontre two years ago. A "hood ornament."
 
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