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QB/WR Braxton Miller (B1G POY, National Champion, OSU HOF)

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jwinslow;2216615; said:
Stoneburner was wide open. Braxton just missed.

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No one is arguing that he wasn't wide open, but if the receiver isn't were the QB expects them to be (continues the route when he expects them to stop or cuts the route too sharp to the side when the QB expects him to continue the route vertically, which seems likely given the view from behind the QB) then the explanation isn't always a bad throw.

Have you ever seen Aaron Rodgers throw a ball to the sideline when the receiver runs a post? Is that missing the throw by 20 yards or is that the receiver not being where the QB expects them to be?

Bottom line is that Braxton and Stoneburner weren't on the same page during that play and hopefully they get the kinks worked out sooner rather than later so that the offense starts converting plays like that on a consistent basis.
 
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One thing I was just thinking about that showed some progress Saturday was a couple of spot on throws by Miller to Smith. Particularly the throw in the 2nd Q at the 14:15 mark down the sideline. It was a throw that Miller would've almost surely missed last year and maybe even three weeks ago against Miami, but he was spot on with that one. Maybe one of the better throws of his career (while also being a great catch by Smith). I'm hoping this gives him and the staff some confidence to throw downfield more often.
 
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Buckeye86;2216636; said:
No one is arguing that he wasn't wide open, but if the receiver isn't were the QB expects them to be (continues the route when he expects them to stop or cuts the route too sharp to the side when the QB expects him to continue the route vertically, which seems likely given the view from behind the QB) then the explanation isn't always a bad throw.

Have you ever seen Aaron Rodgers throw a ball to the sideline when the receiver runs a post? Is that missing the throw by 20 yards or is that the receiver not being where the QB expects them to be?

Bottom line is that Braxton and Stoneburner weren't on the same page during that play and hopefully they get the kinks worked out sooner rather than later so that the offense starts converting plays like that on a consistent basis.
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He threw it behind him.:tongue2:

A receiver is not going to be in the same exact spot for the same route every time.
 
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Buckeye86;2216636; said:
No one is arguing that he wasn't wide open, but if the receiver isn't were the QB expects them to be (continues the route when he expects them to stop or cuts the route too sharp to the side when the QB expects him to continue the route vertically, which seems likely given the view from behind the QB) then the explanation isn't always a bad throw.
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Again, Miller watched him for a good full second before pulling the trigger...he was watching Stoney cut across and simply missed the throw.
 
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SEREbuckeye;2215167; said:
Brax tried his best to use his feet less and keep the play open in the air. He seemed uncomfortable being contained and handcuffed by the play calling.

The coaching staff needs to let him play and then analyze his performance at half and curtail the play calling then, not before the kickoff.

Great game overall, clutch in the first and fourth quarters when the Bucks needed him to come through.
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in my humble imho, Braxton wasn't so much contained by the play calling as he was forced, by the defense, to pitch the ball rather than keep it.

the guys on the other side of the ball are on scholarship too, and the opposing coaches, especially those with Jeff Tedford's pedigree, most likely have a game plan designed to negate the Buckeyes' (and any other opponent's- see: USC) advantage...

it's pretty arrogant, and highly unrighteous, to always lay the blame for our own shortcomings solely on ourselves. sometimes, the best way to get better is to stop looking at the mirror, and start looking at an opponent's success, and analyzing why they had that success, and what we can do to counter it.
 
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Coach Herman has recently said that in these first 3 weeks he's seen more unique defenses designed to stop Brax running than he has ever seen.
That is what Brax is seeing. They are trying to confuse him and slow his decision making down. The guys around him are going to have to step up and help him as much as they can. This is why the development of Devin Smith and Hall as threats is important to Braxton. Gotta make teams pay for defensing Braxton's running.
 
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Agree but also realize that this will help him grow. There aren't too many other defenses that he will see. I also fully expect to see a lot of screen passes against the MSU defense. I believe they are holding that back for the game.
 
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Braxton's sophmore stats thus far:

48/78 for 611yds, 7 TDs, 2 INTs, and a 151.8 QB Rating
56 rushes for 377yds, 5 TDs

Comparatively, his stats for his first 3 starts last year (Colorado, Mich St. and Nebraska):

15/31 for 234yds, 3 TDs, 1 INT, and a 137.3 QB Rating
36 rushes for 147yds, 0 TDs

Put in perspective, he's done much, much better this year. However, its been against arguably worse competition. But even then, his performances last year against (supposedly) bad competition wasn't that great.

He's also been remarkably consistent throwing. His worst game was a QB rating of 136, and his best (against Cal) was 160. Last year, it swung from 77 to 203 in his first 3 starts.


Also, to throw another QB in the mix, here is Pryor's sophomore stats in 3 games:

42/74 for 613yds, 4 TDs, 4 INTs and a 133.4 QB Rating
28 rushes for 176yds, 2 TDs


Throwing-wise, Braxton is a bit ahead of Pryor due to half as many interceptions, despite having thrown the ball more. Braxton has also ran a lot more than Pryor, as he had almost as many yards in his 1st game as Pryor did in 3.

Given the progression, you have to believe that Herman is a better coach for Braxton and an arguably better play caller.
 
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Mrstickball;2216779; said:
Right. I know its obvious, but at the same time, there are various complaints about the offense at this juncture. Drawing comparisons from other sophomore campaigns, one should be appreciative of Herman and Urban.
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Yeah, those people need to chill out. We're 3 games into an entire new coaching staff... as long as Braxton learns from the mistakes he's going to make, he'll be fine.
 
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