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QB Troy Smith (2006 Heisman Trophy Winner)

Congrats Troy on Winning the awards ... I kinda got pissed about the Maxwell Award.

Is the Maxwell Award a completely bogus consolation prize? Quinn for offensive player and Posluzny for defensive... I mean are there 2 bigger deuschbags in college sports?


Who is the bigger joke? P.O.S.luzny or Quinn?

 
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Who is the bigger joke? P.O.S.luzny or Quinn?

Quinn. Atleast Poz is the leader of a great defense. Quinn is the leader of a mediocre offense. Pads his stats against some of the worst teams in D-1A(UNC, Stanford, the Academies, etc.) and folds when he faces a decent defense(scUM, USC, and I think you could throw Georgia Tech in there too).

Oh, and Poz is a class act. Brady is arrogant just like his coach, just to a lesser extent.
 
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Griffin: Heisman would change Smith's life

It's the title, not the trophy, that makes things different for OSU quarterback.


By Doug Harris
Staff Writer

Friday, December 08, 2006

COLUMBUS ? Former Ohio State great Archie Griffin didn't have to wait for the Heisman Trophy ceremony to learn he won the award in 1974 and '75. In those simpler times, he was informed before leaving for New York.
OSU's Troy Smith won't learn until Saturday whether he's become the first pure quarterback in Big Ten history to win the Heisman, but his play this season seems to have made that announcement a mere formality. And Griffin has advice for the Buckeye star: Say goodbye to the status quo.
"He no longer will just be Troy," Griffin said Wednesday. "He'll be Troy Smith, Heisman Trophy winner. Or Heisman Trophy-winner Troy Smith. That alone will change is life. With that title, he'll be highly in demand, and he'll get opportunities he wouldn't have gotten before."
As a former winner, Griffin will be at the ceremony and wouldn't be surprised if Smith becomes one in long line of players who become choked up during the acceptance speech.
"One of the guys from the Downtown Athletic Club who was showing me around said, 'Archie, sometimes guys get emotional when they get up there, and don't let that bother you,' " Griffin said. "I'm thinking, 'I'm not going to get emotional.' But I couldn't get five words out of my mouth before tears started flowing.
"It could possibly happen with Troy if he starts thinking about how he got to where he is. He got pretty emotional at the (team) banquet Sunday. It's either all out of him or it could happen again."
 
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Team mentality has lifted Buckeyes' QB Troy Smith to cusp of individual greatness

His maturity is one of the reasons Ohio State has won 19 straight.

By Doug Harris
Staff Writer

Friday, December 08, 2006
COLUMBUS ? Ohio State's Troy Smith has strolled in and out of the team headquarters at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center countless times, normally shuffling around the six Heisman Trophies that sit in glass-enclosed cases on the floor of the atrium without giving them much thought.
But considering what he's likely to achieve this weekend, his recent trips past those bronze statues have left him in a reflective mood.
"For so many years, I've walked through the atrium and looked at Heisman Trophies and took them for granted, not really thinking about the work those guys had to do to get there," he said. "Now I totally understand how much you have to be a team-oriented guy and how much work you really have to put in to be spoken of as one of the elite players.
"I have to pinch myself all the time, because there are so many guys who do a great job and deserve respect, but not everybody gets it."
Smith's efforts certainly aren't being overlooked this year. He was in Orlando, Fla., on Thursday for ESPN's College Football Awards Show as a finalist for several national honors, and his week will culminate with a trip to New York on Saturday for what figures to be the least-suspenseful Heisman ceremony in years.
The senior quarterback from Cleveland is a virtual cinch to claim perhaps the most revered individual award in sports, and he's poised to join a select circle of Ohio State winners that includes Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, Howard "Hopalong" Cassady, Archie Griffin and Eddie George.
"It's a tremendous honor and a tremendous reflection on the team I played on, the coaches I played for and the program I run out on the field to represent," Smith said. "If I get a chance to hoist that trophy and have it come back to THE Ohio State University, it will be great for the guys to talk about around here and will make this a better place."
Smith already has done plenty to elevate the program, rising from a lightly regarded recruit to direct the Buckeyes to a nation-leading 19 straight victories. He's notched a school-record 30 touchdown passes this season with one game to go and has thrown just five interceptions.
He also has an uncanny knack of excelling in showcase games, averaging about 350 total yards (rushing and passing) and accounting for nine total TDs while leading the Buckeyes to three straight victories over Michigan.
"His tremendous growth and his stepping up when things are the toughest have gotten a lot of people's attention," OSU coach Jim Tressel said.
Smith's ability to escape a pass rush is renowned, and he also managed to dodge some off-field challenges that could have derailed his career.
He was charged with disorderly conduct for a late-night brawl during his redshirt freshman season; was chastised by Tressel for complaining to the media as a sophomore when classmate Justin Zwick seized the starting job; and later was suspended for two games for accepting money from a booster.
But Smith was voted a co-captain this year and is the unquestioned leader of the nation's top team. And while he arrived at OSU with a distrustful attitude that didn't exactly endear him to Buckeye beat reporters, his gracious interviews these days seem to indicate he's bought in to Tressel's others-centered mentality.
As for whether Smith has crafted his Heisman acceptance speech yet, the master of improvisation on the field said he'll wing it on that stage, too.
"I don't believe in writing stuff down and then reading it ? I might stumble over a line," he said. "If I get a chance to talk and give my speech, it will be one of gratitude and letting everyone else know I appreciate them."
And if Smith does come home with a Heisman to place next to the others in the foyer of the football complex, a future generation of Buckeyes probably will drift past it mindlessly, too. But one player may pause long enough to wonder what it took to get there.
 
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Smith wins one, loses one, awaits 'the one'



Friday, December 08, 2006 Doug Lesmerises

Plain Dealer Reporter
Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith won one national player of the year award in Orlando, Fla., on Thursday night with the big one still waiting for him in New York on Saturday.
Smith picked up the Walter Camp Award at the College Football Awards show, but Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn won the Maxwell Award, which also honors the best player in the country. On the show televised by ESPN, Smith began to clap and smile as soon as Quinn's name was announced, and anyone fearing this as some harbinger for Saturday's Heisman Trophy ceremony need not worry.
The Maxwell, voted on by coaches, reporters, broadcasters and members of the Philadelphia-based Maxwell Club, has a history of going a different way than the Heisman. The same player hasn't won the Maxwell and the Heisman since Wisconsin's Ron Dayne in 1999. Southern Cal quarterback Matt Leinart won both the Heisman and the Walter Camp in 2004, but Oklahoma's Jason White won the Maxwell. Last year, USC's Reggie Bush won the Heisman and the Walter Camp while Texas quarterback Vince Young won the Maxwell. On the Web site stiffarmtrophy.com, which tracks Heisman votes that have been made public, Smith had 106 of the 111 first-place votes tallied by Thursday night

Smith did pick up another individual award, becoming the first Buckeye to win the Davey O'Brien Award as the nation's top quarterback, beating out Quinn and Hawaii's Colt Brennan. The O'Brien was first handed out in 1981.
Ohio State linebacker James Laurinaitis, who won the Nagurski Award earlier in the week as the nation's top defender, lost out on the Butkus Award for best linebacker on Thursday. He was a finalist along with Penn State's Paul Posluszny, but lost out to Mississippi's Patrick Willis.
Smith, Laurinaitis, and OSU defensive tackle Quinn Pitcock, who was a finalist for the Lombardi Award on Wednesday but lost out to Michigan's LaMarr Woodley, were all selected to the Walter Camp All-American team.
Mozes wins Rimington
West Virginia's Dan Mozes won the Rimington Trophy in Dallas.
The award is given to the nation's best college center.
Mozes, a senior, helped pave the way for the Mountaineers' running game, which ranked second in the nation at 302 yards per game.
The other finalists were Ohio State's Doug Datish, USC's Ryan Kalil, Arkansas' Jonathan Luigs, Michigan's Mark Bihl and Rutgers' Darnell Stapleton.
 
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O'Brien adds to Buckeye's big year

By WENDELL BARNHOUSE

Star-Telegram Staff Writer

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THE ASSOCIATED PRESS/REINHOLD MATAY
Ohio State's Troy Smith said winning the Davey O'Brien Award as the nation's top quarterback "means everything to me."

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. -- A year ago, Troy Smith remembers watching Vince Young accept the Davey O'Brien National Quarterback Award.
Young went on to lead Texas to the national championship. Smith is poised to follow in the Longhorn's footsteps.
Smith, a senior for top-ranked Ohio State, was named the winner of the 2006 O'Brien Award on Thursday night at the ESPN College Football Awards show.
"This award means everything to me," said Smith, who is fourth nationally in passing efficiency for the 12-0 Buckeyes. "My heart was pounding before they announced my name. I'm extremely overwhelmed."
Smith also was named the winner of the Walter Camp Award that is presented to the nation's outstanding player.
Ohio State became the first team in more than 60 years to play in two No. 1 vs. No. 2 games in one regular season. In victories over second-ranked Texas and second-ranked Michigan, Smith completed 46 of 67 passes for 585 yards and six touchdowns.
"I guess I have a dire need to win," Smith said in explaining his ability to rise in the big games. "I want to win for my team and my school."
The Buckeyes will face a final challenge from a No. 2 team when they play second-ranked Florida in the Bowl Championship Series national title game on Jan. 8.
After Ohio State's victory at Texas on Sept. 9, Smith became the front-runner for the Heisman Trophy. He is expected to be grasping the stiff-arming bronze statue just before 8 p.m. Saturday.
"I really haven't given much thought about the Heisman," said Smith, who passed for 2,507 yards with 30 touchdowns and just five interceptions. "I'm really going to wait until I get up there [to New York] before I start letting it sink in.
"I've enjoyed hanging around with all these other players the last couple of days, getting to know the other guys who play on Saturdays."
The other O'Brien finalists were Notre Dame senior quarterback Brady Quinn and Hawaii junior quarterback Colt Brennan. Quinn, a preseason Heisman favorite along with Smith, received the Maxwell Award that goes to the nation's most valuable player.
Smith is the fourth Big Ten Conference quarterback to win the O'Brien. The others were Iowa's Chuck Long in 1985, Penn State's Kerry Collins in 1994 and Iowa's Brad Banks in 2002.
Smith graduated last spring with a degree in communications. He is currently seeking a second bachelor's degree in black studies.
Smith will be honored Feb. 19 at the 30th annual Davey O'Brien Awards Dinner at The Fort Worth Club.
 
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Smith would be first true QB from Big Ten to win Heisman
Timing might not be everything, but it?s factor
Friday, December 08, 2006
Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
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DISPATCH FILE PHOTO Back in the low-key days of Rex Kern, Big Ten quarterbacks were mostly called upon to hand off or run the option.
The Big Ten has had more cornerbacks win the Heisman Trophy than quarterbacks. This shocks people. "That surprised me," said former Ohio State running back and two-time winner Archie Griffin. "That is unbelievable," said former Iowa quarterback Chuck Long, who came very close to winning one. "Gosh, I didn?t know that," OSU coach Jim Tressel said. That statistic will change Saturday, when Buckeyes quarterback Troy Smith is heavily favored to win the award. First, a caveat: On the official Heisman Web site, Ohio State?s Les Horvath, the 1944 winner, is listed as a quarterback. But it deserves an asterisk. He was more of a halfback than a quarterback. He had 967 rushing yards that year while completing just 14 passes.
Of the other 14 Heismans that Big Ten players have won, 12 went to running backs, one to a receiver Desmond Howard of Michigan, 1991) and one to a corner (Charles Woodson, Michigan, 1997).
It?s an interesting fact, but upon closer examination, maybe it shouldn?t be so shocking.
After all, before the last 20 years or so, the Big Ten was a rushing-dominated conference, hardly conducive to gaudy passing statistics.
"There?s a perception that the Big Ten is a smash-mouth, 3-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust league," said Long, who was runner-up to Bo Jackson in 1985. "You look at conferences, the Pac-10, people think airs it out, but the Big Ten, people think of mud and snow and running the ball to win. That might be why."
Gary Danielson is a former Purdue quarterback and an analyst for CBS television. He said the only passing teams the conference had for years were the lower-tier teams, not powerhouse programs that had legitimate chances to spawn Heisman winners.
"Since TV has taken over, the Big Ten has been able to showcase its athletes more," Danielson said. "Sooner or later, the right guy was going to come along. But even that said, a Heisman-winning quarterback was most likely going to come from Michigan or Ohio State. Those schools have had good players, but never a guy with all the stats."
Some of it is just a matter of timing.
This season, Smith?s raw numbers (2,507 yards passing, 30 touchdowns, five interceptions) are good but not necessarily overwhelming. He will be the first Heisman winner with fewer than 3,000 passing yards since Vinny Testaverde (2,557) in 1986.
But among other majorcollege quarterbacks, only Brady Quinn of Notre Dame, a fellow Heisman finalist, put up better numbers (3,278 yards, 35 TDs, five interceptions).
"A lot of times, it depends on who?s out there in a given year," Purdue coach Joe Tiller said. "Troy Smith is having a great year and is certainly deserving, playing on the No. 1 team in the country. But I don?t know how many really outstanding quarterbacks there are out there this year."
The best-player-on-the-bestteam thing is a big factor for Smith?s expected victory. And that factor also has worked against Big Ten quarterbacks in the past.
Big Ten teams have won 15 national wire-service titles, but only four since 1968 ? in other words, only four in what could be considered the conference?s more pass-happy era.
Of those four champs (two were Penn State, which was not in the conference at the time), none boasted quarterbacks who had eye-popping numbers. They were:
Todd Blackledge of Penn State in 1982 (2,218 yards, 22 TDs, 14 INTs); John Shaffer of Penn State in 1986 (1,510 yards, 9 TDs, 4 INTs); Brian Griese of Michigan in 1997 (2,293 yards, 17 TDs, 6 INTs) and Craig Krenzel of OSU in 2002 (2,110 yards, 12 TDs, 7 INTs).
Smith?s breakthrough triumph is a result, then, of good numbers coupled with an outstanding team around him.
The added intangible is that Smith is 25-2 as a starter and has won every big nationalspotlight game he has started.
Long, now head coach at San Diego State, said he was impressed with Smith?s leadership.
"I did not watch him much this year," Long said. "But I did catch an interview, and he was so impressive. His leadership quality came out in that interview, the way he talked about his football team in a humble way.
"After I listened to it, I said, ?He?s going to win the Heisman Trophy.? You could just tell."
 
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In sight of THE SUMMIT
Troy Smith?s path from troubled child to Heisman Trophy favorite
Friday, December 08, 2006
Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
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Irvin White was Troy Smith?s foster father from the time the OSU quarterback was 9 to 12 years old. White stands in his suburban Cleveland home with photos and trophies of his kids, including Smith.

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Ted Ginn Sr., Cleveland Glenville High School?s football coach and a district security officer, and Troy Smith consider themselves father and son.

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Ohio State stars Troy Smith and Ted Ginn Jr. played for Cleveland?s Glenville High School. The Tarblooders are a perennial power.

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NEAL C . LAURON Troy Smith might have a Heisman Trophy of his own on Saturday. This one was won by Vic Janowicz in 1950.
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PHOTO COURTESY OF THE WHITE FAMILY A boyhood photo of Troy Smith.

The 9-year-old boy lingers on a Cleveland football field after a game, sobbing. No one is there to pick him up. No one had been there to cheer him on. Fast forward a few years: The 16-year-old, a promising high-school quarterback, sits in a heap on his coach?s office floor, frustrated at the direction his life is heading.

Fast forward again: The sometimes-volatile child of instability has become the calm, smooth leader who piloted the Ohio State football team to a 12-0 record and a berth in the national championship game.

The child who had no one to cheer for him is now cheered by hundreds of thousands of people ? especially as he heads to New York, where on Saturday he is expected to win the Heisman Trophy, awarded each year to the nation?s best college football player.

As a boy, Troy Smith was at times bitter and angry, never really knowing his father and enduring a four-year separation from his mother. As a teen, he felt alone and betrayed by private-school coaches. As a young college student, he could be edgy and outspoken, his enormous potential threatened by immaturity.

His road to the top was filled with obstacles, but also with a few people who helped him along the way.

Foster - parent support

Practice was over, and the boy had no place to go. Tracy Smith had serious problems in her life and was unable to care for her kids, 13-year-old Brittany and her younger brother, 9-year-old Troy.

Troy?s coach on the Glenville A?s, of the Cleveland municipal league, stepped in.

"He was a very personable, likable kid who I suspected was having problems at home," Irvin White said. "I took him home with me."

White called the Cuyahoga County Department of Children and Family Services and learned that the agency was aware of the problems. Brittany went to live with an aunt, but Troy was headed for foster care.

That?s when White and his wife, Diane, agreed to become Troy?s foster parents. Nurturing was their nature. They had four children of their own, ages 12 to 26 at the time. And Mr. White?s mother had taken in more than 250 babies in what then was called an infant-care home.

Thus began four years of much-needed stability in Troy?s life. He shared a bedroom with Irvin III, 12, the Whites? only child living at home.

"He fit into the family like that," Mr. White said, sitting at the dining-room table in his and Diane?s modest home in Bedford, just east of Cleveland.

Then as now, the Whites operate a drapery and blinds business out of their basement. "Troy used to help me fold drapes," Mrs. White said.

Mr. White, 57, is full of energy and laughter. He recognized Troy?s budding talent as a quarterback and was adamant that he be trained at the position rather than being switched to something else.

Smith has fond memories of those years.

"It was difficult because I didn?t have my biological mother, but it was actually a good time, because (the Whites) instilled some things in me that I hadn?t gone through yet," he said. "They were great parents."

Even so, his situation wore on him. It affected his personality and his relationships with others. Young Troy developed a nasty temper.

"He?d get angry when he couldn?t get his way or angry when he couldn?t control the situation," Mr. White said. Sometimes it showed during football games. "I used to go out to the huddle sometimes: ?Troy, chill man, please,? and he?d put that lip out and get up in that lineman?s face and say, ?You better not let that man through again!? Or if somebody dropped his pass, he?d go, ?Why did you drop my pass?? "

Out of respect for his mother, neither Smith nor the Whites wished to detail the personal turmoil that caused her to give up her children, and she did not respond to repeated interview requests. Court records show that Tracy Smith was twice convicted of drug abuse and served time in the mid-1990s.

"She just got messed up on some stuff," Mr. White said.

He told the story of one Christmas Eve when he had Troy buy his mother a watch as a gift. When they went to deliver it, "We couldn?t find her," Mr. White said. "We looked all night until about 9 o?clock. Troy looked at me and he said, ?Do you think Mrs. White would want the watch?? "

Eventually, however, Tracy Smith pulled her life together and regained custody of her children. Troy was 13 when the time came to go back home.

It was not easy on the Whites or Troy.

"The last thing me and my wife wanted to do was give up Troy," Mr. White said. "We were in love with the boy. And Troy sat in our house and boo-hoo cried ? me crying, my wife crying, while Tracy is downstairs and we have to deliver him back to Tracy."

He stopped at the thought, choking up.

"It was hard. It was one of the hardest things I ever had to do in my whole life, because we?d been with him for four years," he said.

At the same time, it was a triumphant ending to Tracy?s struggles.

"I had never seen a person so determined to completely change her life, and she did," Mr. White said.

Despite the painful separation, Mrs. White is proud of Smith?s mother.

"I give her all the props in the world," Mrs. White said. "Things happened, but she loved her kids and everything, even when she was having problems. For what she went through and came out of, that lady is my hero."

Old friends at Glenville

The teenager sat on the floor of Ted Ginn Sr.?s office, frustrated and angry and confused.

Troy Smith was 16. He?d been reunited with his mother three years earlier, but it hadn?t gone smoothly. First, he had to adjust to being back home.

"I was so bitter about her being away," Smith said. "I was still a baby, and I still wanted my mother and she wasn?t there. But through our growth as family members, we got through it. We talked a lot, and she always let us know that it?s OK for us to explain and tell her exactly how we feel."

The Whites had sent several of their own children to a private school. With their encouragement, Smith went to St. Edward High School in Lakewood for his sophomore and junior years.

There, he said, he often felt isolated as a black student on a mostly white campus. The coaches moved him from quarterback to receiver and other positions.

Eventually, he began to feel more like a commodity than a person.

"I think it just came from people who saw me for one thing, and that was a football player or a basketball player," Smith said. "And they just tried to use me, as opposed to grooming me."

He was suspended from playing sports at St. Edward after elbowing an opposing player on the basketball court during his junior season. Smith said the player taunted him with racial slurs.

Troy transferred to Glenville High School, in his old neighborhood on the east side of Cleveland, where Ginn was building a program and serving as a positive influence for kids facing drugs and strife.

The two had known each other for years. Ginn was the father of Smith?s old municipalleague pal, Ted Ginn Jr. But now the elder Ginn had a chance to turn Smith?s bitterness and anger into something positive.
It began on that difficult day in Ginn?s office.

"I guess it was (the fact that I had been) lied to for so long," Smith said. "When I say being lied to, I was led astray. I was always told that I was better than what I really was. Once I got to Glenville, there were kids that could run faster than me, that could jump higher than me, that were far beyond me. And so I used to think like I was the best of the best, and it was nowhere near like that.

"I was young and I didn?t know, and I was ticked about life because I didn?t think a lot of things were fair, but I didn?t have an understanding of what life was really about then."

That came with time, much of it spent around Ginn. The veteran coach, now 51, has a cluttered basement office where he recently managed to find time to talk about Smith, at the same time as he showed film of his players to a college recruiter, gulped down shrimp fried rice and root beer and ignored the constant ringing of his cell and office phones.
Ginn does not have a college degree and is not a teacher. He is a blue-collar man who, on this particular day, was Officer 49, wearing his school-district security guard uniform.

He is what Troy Smith needed: down-to-earth, straighttalking and sincere.

"I?m different to him, because he knows I?m going to be like this and I?m not going to fake him out," Ginn said. "He needed somebody he trusted and cared about that?s not going to trick him or tell him nothing wrong, and that?s me.
"That?s something he had to learn from me, because so many people have been in his life, telling him this, telling him that. Everyone wanted something from him, as a player or whatever. There?s nothing that I could?ve gotten from Troy. All I wanted was the best for him."

The two developed a strong bond, to the point that they now consider themselves father and son. Smith?s biological father, Kenneth Delaney, never has been part of his son?s life.

"Sacrifice and humility, those are two things to me that exemplify the man," Smith said of Ginn. "He was willing to sacrifice everything around him for somebody else?s kid."

And Ginn had good reason.

"Troy is the type of kid, if you get in on the trust side, you?re in. Once you get in, I think he loves so hard that he almost smothers you. He doesn?t have a temperature gauge. It?s either all the way or nothing."

Drawn to OSU

OSU coach Jim Tressel had been taken by Smith?s passion and spirit from the time he offered him a scholarship in the summer before his senior year at Glenville.

Tressel warned Smith that the Buckeyes already had a commitment from quarterback Justin Zwick, a star recruit from Massillon, and that Smith might not play much at first. His position was listed as "athlete" by the university on signing day.

"He loved to compete, so that?s when I fell in love with him," Tressel said. "But my biggest test was when I said to him that first fall, "You may not get to play much quarterback, I'm going to be honest with you.?

"And he said, "What's most important to me is being at Ohio State." That told me what this guy is made of. I didn?t really need to delve into his background or anyone else?s opinion about him."

Smith and Tressel seem like something of an odd couple. Smith is fiery and emotional. Tressel isn?t. The coach certainly gritted his teeth early in Smith?s tenure, especially when the latter spoke out about a lack of playing time and his not being allowed to scramble in the 2004 spring game.

From the time he arrived at OSU, Smith had been hugely popular with his teammates. But he hadn?t yet grasped what it meant to be in a high-profile position.

"I worked on Troy a lot," Ginn Sr. said. "If you?re going to be the quarterback at Ohio State, there?s a certain image you have to have. You can?t be over in a corner laughing and grinning."

Eventually, Tressel?s way won out. Five years under the coach have served as something of a finishing school for Smith, who has always been good at learning from others.

"He?ll absorb people?s knowledge and spend time with people he needs to be around to make him better," said Rod Smith, a former OSU player who is no relation to Troy but is Diane White?s son by an earlier marriage. "He and Tressel right now understand each other and have a great relationship."

Smith said Tressel has taught him a lot about how he presents himself. In interviews, he unfailingly deflects praise and credits teammates, coaches and even the school?s academic counselors for his success.

Tressel "has really added more of a sense of being humble," Smith said. "It?s not what you say, it?s how you say it. It?s not what you do, it?s how you treat people that, in essence, is everything.

"You have to learn that there?s a time and place for everything. Some of the things that you might want to say are not going to be as beneficial as just shutting your mouth."

That was perhaps never more apparent than in December 2004, when the young man sat chastened and worried, wondering what he would hear from the coach who held his career in his hands.

Smith had just admitted to accepting $500 from an Ohio State booster and learned that he would be suspended for two games, the 2004 Alamo Bowl and the 2005 season opener. At 20 years old, he had shown tremendous promise in his first real playing time at OSU, but now he had jeopardized that.

Smith remembers what Tressel told him in that meeting.

"It was a blunt thing," he said. "It was an understanding that, ?We want you to be the quarterback, and you?re either going to step up and be the leader or not.? And I totally, totally respect him for that. I mean, how much more real could you want? "

In Tressel?s understated way, it was an ultimatum.

"We needed to make it clear that we were going to ask for reinstatement" from the NCAA, Tressel said, "and we wanted him to be fully aware that if we had another error, there probably wouldn?t be an opportunity to ask for another reinstatement. So don?t make us all look dumb." Once back from the suspension, Smith got serious about becoming the best quarterback he could be. He spent more time in the film room, often bugging Tressel and assistant coaches to sit with him for extra study sessions.

Ginn Sr. thinks the suspension also was when Smith stopped thinking only of himself and started to realize how his actions affected others.

"I think it woke him up," Ginn said. "He let his teammates down. I think that helped him. He saw how valuable he was, and that helped him to realize that, ?There?s some things I need to change, because people are depending on me.? "

Triumphant home finale

Much has happened to Troy Smith since that day two years ago, most of it good. He graduated with a degree in communications in June and has continued to take classes to remain eligible for football.

Everything culminated on Nov. 18, Senior Day, Smith?s final home game.

The 22-year-old, who 13 years earlier had stood alone and sobbing on a Cleveland football field, soaked up the thunderous cheers of more than 105,000 fans in Ohio Stadium.

He ran across the field, stopped and embraced Tressel, and then continued to where his mother, his sister and Ginn Sr. awaited. The four shared a long group hug, during which, Ginn recalled, Smith said, "Y?all aren?t going to make me cry. I?ve got a ballgame.? "

And what a ballgame he had. Smith threw four touchdown passes to help beat No. 2 Michigan and send the Buckeyes to the national title game on Jan. 8 in Glendale, Ariz. It was OSU?s 19 th straight victory, all with Smith at the helm. He now is 25-2 as a starter.

Smith shared that pregame moment with those closest to him, just as he plans to share this weekend?s Heisman ceremony.

"Seeing my mother?s face, getting a chance to take her to New York, somewhere she?s never been and I?ve never been, we?re both going to enjoy it tremendously," he said. "With my family around me, I?ll definitely think about some things I?ve been through with them."

He?ll think about the tears and boyhood pain, the teenage angst, the hard lessons and growing up in college. But he won?t regret any of it.

"To tell you the truth, there?s not a situation I?ve been through that I?m not grateful for," Smith said, "because it had to happen to make me who I am."
 
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I don't know really, Vick has done a lot to hurt the idea of an option quarterback in the nfl, and that's all people (ESPN) seem to see Troy as.

I am hoping he goes in the Top 15, but I think that may be too much.

I would love to see him go to a decent team but then he wouldn't be starting.
 
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I don't know really, Vick has done a lot to hurt the idea of an option quarterback in the nfl, and that's all people (ESPN) seem to see Troy as.
I seriously doubt real NFL scouts would consider Troy as an option QB. OSU barely uses designed QB runs this year.

After Vick comparisons (which were flawed) before the draft, VY is now winning games (over teams like Indy) for the titans with average passing numbers and meager surrounding talent.

He won't be a top-10 pick, but I think he has 1st round potential.

It won't happen, but I'd love for Chicago to pick him up late in the first (after cutting their interception machine).
 
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OCBucksFan;682688; said:
I don't know really, Vick has done a lot to hurt the idea of an option quarterback in the nfl, and that's all people (ESPN) seem to see Troy as.

I am hoping he goes in the Top 15, but I think that may be too much.

I would love to see him go to a decent team but then he wouldn't be starting.

One thing we know to be true is that the talking heads are never right. They can pick about the top 3 and give players grades and after that it is a free for all. They've projected first round picks who go in the 3rd and 4th rounds, it's not because no team wanted the player just that the talking heads gave him the wrong grade. It just takes one NLF coach to see what a great passer TS has become (I like Herbies comparison to Drew Brees coming out of college). Who'd have expected Young ahead of Linart last draft?

It all depends on which teams are looking for a QB and where they select. A better question would be - out of all QB's, where does TS fall? If he isn't the second or 3rd QB selected, there will be some teams with regrets. I think he'd be a very nice selection for the Raiders (shudder at the thought) or the Panthers or Bears (how excited do you think Lovie would be if he were still there at the end of the first round? no way he'd fall below that spot).
 
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