• Follow us on Twitter @buckeyeplanet and @bp_recruiting, like us on Facebook! Enjoy a post or article, recommend it to others! BP is only as strong as its community, and we only promote by word of mouth, so share away!
  • Consider registering! Fewer and higher quality ads, no emails you don't want, access to all the forums, download game torrents, private messages, polls, Sportsbook, etc. Even if you just want to lurk, there are a lot of good reasons to register!

QB Troy Smith (2006 Heisman Trophy Winner)

Ya I have no idea what your talking about but whenever his 1st option wasn't open(it happend to be open a lot) he looked everywhere on the feild. Like M.Wells was like what the 3rd option. It looks to me that Smith see's the feild MUCH more.

I agree, Troy wasn't "locking" onto his recievers.....I'm pretty sure Hartline wasn't his first option on his first pass attempt.

Anything else you want to nitpick at "daddyphatsacs"?


:osu: :osu: :osu: :osu: :osu:
 
Upvote 0
I agree, Troy wasn't "locking" onto his recievers.....I'm pretty sure Hartline wasn't his first option on his first pass attempt.

Anything else you want to nitpick at "daddyphatsacs"?


:osu: :osu: :osu: :osu: :osu:

Good point. Here's Hartline's quote:

Brian Hartline said:
“Honestly, I had no idea the ball would be coming to me, because I’m not the first option,” Hartline said. “Troy read the defense, they rolled the safety down and I was the open guy. He made the right read and the right throw. I guess I just didn’t expect it to be me.”
 
Upvote 0
not awesome at all. he came in and threw his throwing shoulder into a defender. I could go the entire season without seeing that again.

I agree with you that we don't want to see him get hurt this way. I think JT would talk to him about this.

But think about what other players would do for each other when a QB throw a block like this for fellow ball carrier.

I guess this is just Troy being Troy. He just does what is needed.
 
Upvote 0
morning-journal

Redemption, thy song is Smith's

By JASON LLOYD, Morning Journal Columnist

09/05/2006


Email to a friendPost a CommentPrinter-friendly


TROY Smith is no Bob Marley, but he knows all about a redemption song. In five days, he'll begin to sing his.


Troy would never admit this. It would take the focus off the team and put it on himself, and everything Troy has to say this year relates to the team.

That's great. Certainly nothing wrong with that, especially when it's coming from the starting quarterback and possible Heisman Trophy winner.

But deep in his soul, in the bottom of his heart, Troy Smith knows Saturday night's game against Texas is his Redemption Song.

A strong argument could be made that $500 cost Ohio State a win vs. Texas and perhaps even a spot in the national championship game. Without that two-game suspension, Troy Smith would've spent last summer working as the starting quarterback. That, in turn, would have given him many more snaps and prepared him more thoroughly for Texas and Penn State, the two games Ohio State lost last year.

As it was, Justin Zwick took the bulk of the snaps during camp, and Troy was left to come off the bench against Texas colder than an Eskimo.

His touchdown pass to Santonio Holmes in that game was brilliant, but aside from that, he was mediocre at best. Some good plays, some bad. Considering he was playing against the second-ranked team in the country with virtually no practice time, mediocre isn't too bad. But he did little with the tremendous field position Ohio State's defense created for the offense with three turnovers.

True, if Ryan Hamby catches that touchdown pass from Zwick, Ohio State wins anyhow. But if Troy Smith is the starter and plays all four quarters, the game is not even close. Look at the way Smith played once he knocked the rust off last year. And look how it carried over to Saturday's opener against Northern Illinois.

''Troy is as good as any quarterback in the country,'' Texas coach Mack Brown said yesterday.

And now he heads to Austin, the former home of Vince Young, with nothing left to prove, but instead seeking atonement.

The comparisons between Troy Smith and Vince Young began around the end of last year, when Smith capped a brilliant season with consecutive Heisman-like performances against Michigan and Notre Dame. The way he cut Ohio State's offense through Notre Dame's weary defense surprised most of the country, including Brown, who watched the game from his hotel room in California.

Brown, whose Longhorns would play in the national championship game two nights later, said the biggest difference he saw between Troy Smith in September and Troy Smith at the end of last season was confidence.

''That Notre Dame game was amazing,'' Brown said. ''I was amazed at how well the whole Ohio State team played. I thought they were one of the best teams in the country last year and they could've played in the game we played in.''

They were 10 points away from doing so, losing to Texas by a field goal and Penn State by a touchdown.

Troy Smith and the Buckeyes have carried around the disappointment of that Texas game for 12 months now. He shrugs off any comparisons to Vince Young because ''Vince didn't have to replace nine guys off his defense heading into his breakout season.''

But really, Troy Smith shrugs off comparisons to Vince Young because he's never made a good shadow for anyone. Troy can't help but be the star.

Ask Lloyd Carr, who has seen what Smith can do two times too many. History proves that in Ohio State's biggest games, Troy Smith gives his best concert.

Saturday night might be his symphony.

[email protected]

©The Morning Journal 2006
 
Upvote 0
USAToday.com

College football Player of the WeekUpdated 9/5/2006 3:37 AM ETE-mail | Save | Print | Subscribe to stories like this
clear.gif
EnlargePeterson: AP photo; all others: US PRESSWIRE
clear.gif
Oklahoma's Adrian Peterson, Rutgers' Ray Rice, Ohio State's Troy Smith and Tennessee's Erik Ainge, clockwise from top left, are among the nominees for college football player of the week.

Each week during the season, readers can select their pick for USA TODAY's Player of the Week. Choices will be made available on Sunday night. The fan vote, open through noon ET on Wednesday, will comprise one-third of the award with one vote also going to college football editor Erick Smith and Gannett columnist Mike Lopresti. USA TODAY will name its winner Wednesday.
WEEKEND REVIEW: We break down opening week's highs and lows

THIS WEEK'S FIVE NOMINEES

Erik Ainge— The Tennessee quarterback threw four touchdown passes and paced his squad to a 35-0 lead over Cal in the season opener at Neyland Stadium — all before the halfway mark of the third quarter. The once-embattled signal caller finished the game with 291 yards passing and back in the good graces of the Volunteers faithful.

Buster Davis— The Florida State linebacker recorded 12 tackles, including three for a loss, in Monday night's 13-10 victory over Miami. He had two sacks for 29 yards lost, and helped the Seminoles overcome a 10-3 fourth-quarter deficit by holding the Hurricanes scoreless in the second half.

Adrian Peterson— The Oklahoma running back collected two touchdowns, 139 yards rushing and 208 total yards in the Sooners' 24-17 win over UAB. Both scores gave Oklahoma the lead, including his second touchdown on a 69-yard reception late in the third quarter. Prior to the game, Peterson only had 62 receiving yards during his career.

Ray Rice — The Rutgers running back garnered 201 yards rushing and all three of his team's touchdowns in a 21-16 win at North Carolina. It was his third consecutive game with more than 100 yards rushing.

Troy SmithThe Ohio State quarterback led his top-ranked squad out of the starting gate with a bang. In the first quarter against Northern Illinois, he connected on three touchdown passes, two to star receiver Ted Ginn Jr. The Heisman candidate finished with 298 passing yards in the Buckeyes' 35-12 win.

FIVE WHO JUST MISSED THE CUT

Kenny Irons— The Auburn running back rushed for 184 yards and a touchdown in the Tigers' 40-14 defeat of Washington State. The Heisman candidate's 223 all-purpose yards helped sixth-ranked Auburn, stung last year on opening weekend with a loss to Georgia Tech, start strong.
Jerod Mayo— The Tennessee linebacker, making just his second career start, recorded seven total tackles and three sacks in the Vols' 35-18 win over California. He contributed to a defensive unit that held the Golden Bears to 64 yards rushing and kept them out of the red zone until the third quarter.
Ben Olson— The UCLA quarterback threw for 318 yards and three touchdowns in his first game as the Bruins starter. The sophomore transfer from BYU hit Ryan Moya for a 16-yard touchdown on his opening drive in the Bruins' 31-10 victory over Utah.
Steve Slaton— The West Virginia tailback rushed for 201 yards and two touchdowns in the Mountaineers' 42-10 dismantling of in-state rival Marshall. It was his second straight game with more than 200 yards rushing after running for 204 in the team's Sugar Bowl victory over Georgia.
Garrett Wolfe— The Northern Illinois running back had 287 total yards in a 35-12 loss to top-ranked Ohio State. Wolfe rushed for 172 yards and caught five passes for 115 yards. The Huskies' dynamic back added a touchdown in the fourth quarter when he caught a 4-yard pass from Phil Horvath and dragged Buckeyes cornerback Malcolm Jenkins over the goal line.
 
Upvote 0
I agree, Troy wasn't "locking" onto his recievers.....I'm pretty sure Hartline wasn't his first option on his first pass attempt.

Anything else you want to nitpick at "daddyphatsacs"?


:osu: :osu: :osu: :osu: :osu:

Possibly...... :wink:

I'm a firm believer that you've always got to find something to improve on, even if you played a near flawless game. Smith played one hell of a game, but let's also remember that they are going to get much harder from here on out.

I wasn't nitpicking........it was just an observation of mine. When I say about him locking in, it wasn't on every play. It was on a couple of plays down by the goaline. The two that I remembered were Gonzo's TD pass, which was a great throw.......and Ginn's short TD pass, which was also a good throw. What I'm saying is that if you look at a guy the whole time when you get down by the goaline, eventually a team will pick up on that and jump the route, and possibly pick it off. I'm not bashing Troy here at all, I was just making conversatioon. Perhaps next time I'll just come on here with the usual "Troy was great" post. It's a true post, but it also gives you nothing to discuss. Your fine to disagree with me, but it's just the vibe I got when I watched a tape of the game. Keep in mind, I think Smith is the best QB in the country, and there is no other guy that I'd rather have running the OSU offense. The kid is dynamic, and an absolute gamer. I just wanted to throw those points out there.........take it FWIW.
 
Upvote 0
Link

Sept. 5, 2006, 12:07AM
Potentially, Smith is this year's Young

By JOHN P. LOPEZ
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle
FOR all the physical gifts God and genetics gave Vince Young, the greatest was one that could not be timed, measured or gauged.
Texas Fight was not an anthem to Young. It was a heavy-mettle beat in his heart.

Guts turned into Longhorns glory. Whatever it was that distinguished him from other talents made Young's heart bigger and better than that of anyone else on the field.
So it is, too, with the Ohio State beat in Troy Smith's heart. He leads. They follow. They worry. He calms.

A lot of similarities

Vince Young wore jersey No. 10. So does Smith. Young was a scintillating threat running the ball, but his accuracy as a passer was much underrated. Ditto with Smith.
Early in his career, Young had to share time with a touted, popular, good quarterback — Chance Mock — who in truth was not close to being in Young's league.
Such was the case with Smith, who even in last year's Texas-Ohio State brawl was sharing time with Justin Zwick.
Young replaced Mock, and many wondered what took so long. Same with Smith.
But most significantly, Young did not show the nation just how marvelous a player he was until the 2005 Rose Bowl. That's when he turned in a legendary effort against storied Midwest power Michigan.
One year later, the national championship game would be played on that same Rose Bowl field, and Young's coronation as one of the greatest college quarterbacks became complete.
So this is where the parallels between the Buckeyes quarterback and the former Longhorns great become practically scary. Especially if you are a Texas fan.

Terrific in Tempe

It was not until a special kind of night against storied Midwest power Notre Dame in last season's Tostitos Fiesta Bowl that the nation caught a glimpse of Smith's talents. Smith finished with 408 yards of offense that night against the Irish, including a career-high 342 yards passing, in what would be a 34-20 Ohio State victory.
And where is this year's national championship game? Back in Tempe, of course.
Even UT coach Mack Brown shakes his head and marvels at the tracks these two quarterbacks' careers have taken.
"I think they're the same guy," Brown said. "One's taller."
That would be Young, who is 6-5 to Smith's 6-1.
As these teams are measured and dissected in the days before Saturday's huge No. 1 versus No. 3 showdown in Austin, as they are analyzed and scrutinized, picked apart and put back together again, understand that the only thing that really matters is No. 10.
Just like last year.
"I relate him to what Vince Young did for us," Brown said of Smith. "He's so strong with his legs. He throws the ball downfield so well. He's so accurate.
"I expect him to do this year for Ohio State like what Vince did for us."
The greatest challenge for the Longhorns is making sure it doesn't happen exactly like last year.
They do have a defense filled with experience and superstar talents bucking for Outland and Lombardi honors.
But then, so did Ohio State last year.
It was Young who determined the outcome of this game a year ago, running and passing terrifically but, most importantly, calmly directing the clinching drive and finishing it off with a perfect strike to receiver Limas Sweed.
When teams are this closely matched, all sorts of on-field and off-field factors will, to varying degrees, come into play. Let's go down the list of things to watch, shall we?
There's Texas quarterback Colt McCoy's play under pressure.
And there's the young, potentially susceptible Ohio State defense.
There's the vocal Longhorns crowd and a heated environment. And there's the Buckeyes' response to that environment and big-time Texas heat.
There's the impact of UT cornerback Tarell Brown's marijuana- and gun-related arrest early Monday morning. And there's the Buckeyes' other Heisman hopeful, the brilliant receiver Ted Ginn Jr., against whom Brown would be matched if he is allowed to play.
There's the Buckeyes' great offensive line. And the Longhorns' great defensive line. There's this. There's that.
But add it all together, and you've still got nothing compared to the one play Smith will have to make at some point Saturday night.
Rest assured, it will come down to that.
A year ago, Young made that play. The difference between another title run for the Longhorns and one for the Buckeyes could be whether Smith's budding legend again follows Young's lead.
"Troy Smith can take a negative play and make it a positive," Mack Brown said. "He's one of those once-in-a-lifetime guys."
Or twice-in-a-lifetime perhaps.
 
Upvote 0
daddyphatsacs said:
Thinking back to the game on Saturday, my only concern with Troy is that he seemed to lock in on his primary receiver the whole time. This is what got him into trouble last season. He can't do this against a good secondary, they'll pick him off........ Not saying that he will, but I really noticed this out of Troy during that game......and that was something that he did a lot last season when he struggled a bit. Not taking anything away from him, but he can't tip off the good DB's, they'll make him pay for it.

I'm sure that JT also noticed this, and they will get it corrected.....it was the first game and all.
yes, something i saw some of last year in the texas game and grad pointed out more than once last year.

they guy i was sitting with was paying attention to everytime troy "looked off" dbs and the tally wasnt that great. more than once troy locked into a guy over the middle, against an inferior team usually his wr can out athlete they guy and still get open against the best teams in the country (texas, psu last year) troy struggled with this. from what i saw last year those were the only two top twent ds we played all year. and in the texas game i believe iirc he had one series were he moved the chains, sturggled three times with a short field and the performance in happy valley left something to be diesired. we never saw troy struggle again, but we never saw troy play a quality defense again. he has or had a tendency to go back to "balling" against a those two defenses. was it maturity which turned him around? i dont know, like daddy said no doubt troy had more than a passing performance, but not nearly a perfect one. as a side note, someone i was talking to mentioned how troy struggled more the more he ran, his philosphy was it led to his "balling" the texas and psu games last year he had his two worst rushing performances with 2ypc and .8ypc. against the two best defenses he faced.

all things equal
troy had a good game
troy has things he needs to work on
every athlete/person has things they can improve one
 
Upvote 0
I am so sick of hearing that this years VY is TS. Just because both quaterbacks are black and can scramble does that really make them alike. I think Troy is a much better and accurate passer than VY.

I think they draw comparison's because they are/were both the unquestioned leader of the team, and the person that makes it all tick. I don't think race has anything to do with it. It goes to be seen if Troy has the season that VY had last year, we all can only dream that he does.
 
Upvote 0
I am so sick of hearing that this years VY is TS. Just because both quaterbacks are black and can scramble does that really make them alike. I think Troy is a much better and accurate passer than VY.

What about both of them making tremendous strides as quarterbacks? What about their leadership roles? What about their knack for the big play? What about both having to overcome strong opposition from other QBs on the roster?

I see many similarities besides looking at skin color...
 
Upvote 0
What about both of them making tremendous strides as quarterbacks? What about their leadership roles? What about their knack for the big play? What about both having to overcome strong opposition from other QBs on the roster?

I see many similarities besides looking at skin color...
All true, but I have to admit that it really seems like Smith has evolved into a passer who runs well. Young still seems to be a runner who throws well. EIther way, they are both winners on and off the field. And leaders. Hard not to like either one of them, although I do wish that pass to Sweed was 2 feet shorter.
 
Upvote 0
Back
Top