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QB Tathan Martell (transfer to Miami, transfer to UNLV)

Twitter was a huge red flag... while you guys were all convincing yourselves he was 'alpha' and a 'competitor', i thought it was plain as day he was 1 foot out the door.

Ah well, at least the locker room will be settled. Day also orchestrated the better part of the trade... c'est la vie.
Next time they'll maybe treat it with kid gloves. Not all 19yr olds have Burrow's maturity.
I wasn’t convinced he was alpha at all. In fact if you go back and find my post you’ll find that I thought he was scared. And that proved to be true. And frankly, considering he has been proven to be scared, my concern about his departure is minimal.
 
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Not related to his time in Columbus, his talent, his upcoming future in Miami or anything else.
Whenever I see him mention, I can't help but remember this classic image of a mom with horrible, horrible, borderline criminal taste in names for children.

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Not related to his time in Columbus, his talent, his upcoming future in Miami or anything else.
Whenever I see him mention, I can't help but remember this classic image of a mom with horrible, horrible, borderline criminal taste in names for children.

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My wife wanted to name our now-2-year-old daughter Lakelynn...

Scary.
 
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I'm sure you were very upset that Urban and staff led Burrow to believe he had a real shot of beating Haskins.

As i've repeated a million times now ... managing people is a skill. They missed with both Mathis and Tate leaving us thin and reliant on NCAA to not screw us.
This is a learning opportunity for Day imo.
This isn't a cross-examination, and I'm not trying to trap you into saying something "mean." You're saying a lot of things metaphorically, and I'm just trying to figure out what you are actually saying. I think what you're saying now is that Martell had little-to-no shot to start, but the coaches should have told him that he did in order to keep him around. And similarly, Burrow had little-to-no shot to start last year, but the coaches should have told him, and did dishonestly tell him, that he had a shot to start, in order to keep him around. I don't know if that's true, but I can see the argument for doing it, if it is.
 
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I'd go a step further and say that there really is no 'fault' to begin with.

Nobody was wronged - except maybe the people who convinced themselves that Tate was just super competitive and now bitter about the egg on their face.
I guess I should have read ahead (lesson still not learned). This is a strange turn. Your position is now that anyone who disputes the idea that the coaching staff screwed up with Martell is really just embarrassed due to...not seeing that he would transfer?
 
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Would have liked to have seen what he could have done here. But he won't come back to haunt us at Da U, and losing a controversial tweeter and potential flash point for internal division within the team makes it less of a negative. Good luck to him individually, but not to his new school.
 
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His comments suggest he’s afraid. That’s how you react when you want to scare a guy away.
So @kujirakira this was my position. Others who commented seem to allude to the same thing but no one wanted to come out and say it directly for fear that it might be considered “bashing“. Some of the folks who said he was “alpha” were no doubt doing so because they believed that while others still did so as a means to make excuses for behavior that they wished a Buckeye didn’t do but again, didn’t want to bash. As I read back through the comments, I don’t get the impression that a huge number of folks were concerned that Tate might leave...not because they didn’t think it could happen, but because they didn’t care if it did because his noise level probably doesn’t jive with his production.
 
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I think it raises questions about whether this was simmering beneath the surface.
This January is also the very first time he had a shot to be the QB, and it overlapped with a changing coaching staff (and potential heir at QB). Instead of competing with the talented but not extremely athletic Baldwin, they're bringing in a Terrelle Pryor talent.

I think it's very possible they didn't handle it well, or Tate, or both.

So after all those attempts to put words in my mouth, we basically agree ... k
 
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So @kujirakira this was my position. Others who commented seem to allude to the same thing but no one wanted to come out and say it directly for fear that it might be considered “bashing“. Some of the folks who said he was “alpha” were no doubt doing so because they believed that while others still did so as a means to make excuses for behavior that they wished a Buckeye didn’t do but again, didn’t want to bash. As I read back through the comments, I don’t get the impression that a huge number of folks were concerned that Tate might leave...not because they didn’t think it could happen, but because they didn’t care if it did because his noise level probably doesn’t jive with his production.

You sure about that? Cuz if we dial back a week or so i did say his twitter comments were the remarks of an insecure person... and you guys jumped on it.
He's so alpha, a competitor, etc.
I was right and got what was going on.
Now im saying that the coaching staff could have handled this better as well... but they can learn from it.
And here you all are again jumping on a neutral nuanced viewpoint.

Go figure.
 
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