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QB Lincoln "Dakota" Kienholz (Official Thread)

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osuvictory1 said:
We shall see. He probably does have technical issues, but his mind is definitely right, which you can't teach.

As to the Railo kid, time will tell if he is legit or just a camp darling. If he is the second coming, he isn't a Buckeye, and we will move on.
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I never knew how to Guage Dylan... he's big but IMO too big.

All our QBs are 6 foot 3 and thin/muscular. Dylan is 6 foot 3 but he's going to have issues staying at 225.
 
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From the Fong:

“Ohio State QB Lincoln Kienholz is the most mobile QB here, good athlete, quick, can get himself out of suspect pockets. Fluid athlete”

“Lincoln Kienholz the only West QB that could by time today, get any first downs and was the QB that led them to both of their scoring drives with nine minutes to go in the fourth.”
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1926Buckeyes said:
Doubt the arm talent is equal, but LK was definitely a great late addition.
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I mean yeah it's South Dakota ball but his stats are way ahead of Dylan. Have to remember if we're going to knock the talent he played against in HS then we should do the same when considering who he's throwing the ball to also.

It's not like Lincoln was throwing to Iniss or Tate. All things equal Lincoln is a tremendous athlete, takes care of the ball and buys time to get his teammates open. Hard to knock that, that's for sure.
 
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The question isn’t purely about talent or poise or arm strength or technique or any of that stuff…

For me the question (especially since we hear so many comparisons with Burrow) is whether a kid can translate what he can do on a field in a game back to whatever he’s showing (or not showing, for example in the case of Burrow) to the coaches in practice.

It seemed that with some special kids (again, like Burrow) they are able to really perform on the field in real game reps much more so than they can show that “magic” during practice and win playing time.

It’s really two different (and sometimes distinct) things…
 
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shetuck said:
The question isn’t purely about talent or poise or arm strength or technique or any of that stuff…

For me the question (especially since we hear so many comparisons with Burrow) is whether a kid can translate what he can do on a field in a game back to whatever he’s showing (or not showing, for example in the case of Burrow) to the coaches in practice.

It seemed that with some special kids (again, like Burrow) they are able to really perform on the field in real game reps much more so than they can show that “magic” during practice and win playing time.

It’s really two different (and sometimes distinct) things…
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Small sample size but so far Lincoln has done what you've described at least once. Early reports this week were that he was having issues with the speed of his WRs (too short on deep throws and behind on slants etc). That's probably why he was the 3rd QB for the West today. Well he promptly goes out there and is the only QB to get points for the West and put the ball on the money when he needed to. He rose to the occasion today with little help from his team and the structure of this kind of game. Again, small sample size but he's 1-0 so far in "will he translate".
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
Small sample size but so far Lincoln has done what you've described at least once. Early reports this week were that he was having issues with the speed of his WRs (too short on deep throws and behind on slants etc). That's probably why he was the 3rd QB for the West today. Well he promptly goes out there and is the only QB to get points for the West and put the ball on the money when he needed to. He rose to the occasion today with little help from his team and the structure of this kind of game. Again, small sample size but he's 1-0 so far in "will he translate".
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For sure, sample size of 1 is not enough. Not even close. Burrow could very well be the lone exception over the years.

But the translation I'm talking about isn't from practice to game. I'm talking about will the staff allow a guy (like, for example Lincoln) get into a game and really show his stuff when he's not necessarily killing it in practice.

In other words - sample size of one notwithstanding - what was Burrow NOT doing in practice when he was wearing the scarlet and grey that JT or Fields or whoever was? Or is it just a case that Burrow didn't have the same competition to face, in practice, at LSU?

My question is: what are kids expected to do or show in practice that Burrow wasn't showing when he was at OSU to earn him a starting job so he can go show his stuff in an actual game. Is the expectation hand-cuffing some generational talents? At QB or other positions... it's not about what a guy can do on the field. It's about whether they can show whatever during practice that somebody like Burrow wasn't able to show when he was in Columbus.

Not sure how else to ask. And, yes... it's a whole lot of what-if speculation.
 
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shetuck said:
For sure, sample size of 1 is not enough. Not even close. Burrow could very well be the lone exception over the years.

But the translation I'm talking about isn't from practice to game. I'm talking about will the staff allow a guy (like, for example Lincoln) get into a game and really show his stuff when he's not necessarily killing it in practice.

In other words - sample size of one notwithstanding - what was Burrow NOT doing in practice when he was wearing the scarlet and grey that JT or Fields or whoever was? Or is it just a case that Burrow didn't have the same competition to face, in practice, at LSU?

My question is: what are kids expected to do or show in practice that Burrow wasn't showing when he was at OSU to earn him a starting job so he can go show his stuff in an actual game. Is the expectation hand-cuffing some generational talents? At QB or other positions... it's not about what a guy can do on the field. It's about whether they can show whatever during practice that somebody like Burrow wasn't able to show when he was in Columbus.

Not sure how else to ask. And, yes... it's a whole lot of what-if speculation.
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I thought Burrow got hurt, which kind of sealed his fate, and Haskins won the job.
 
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