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QB Kirk Herbstreit (Frosted Quips)

Best Buckeye;1865072; said:
No Link? then I guess you have no proof. have them PM me so I can be enlightned too.
I have no burden of proof here because I was just conveying what I heard, as I clearly stated in my second post. If you require proof, go get a scout membership and pm nevadabuck, Bank or one of the BSB guys.
Yes I do think they would speak out if it were necessary becuase that would be professional even if they don't get in a pissing match.
Obviously, your definition of professional differs from mine.
 
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NFBuck;1865075; said:
I have no burden of proof here because I was just conveying what I heard, as I clearly stated. If you require proof, go get a scout membership and pm nevadabuck, Bank or one of the BSB guys.

Obviously, your definition of professional differs from mine.
Well you do have a burden of proof if you are goint to cast aspersions. Many people post accusations in here without a shred of proof and eveyone else justs jumps in the feeding frenzie.
Maybe you could claim Ord as your proof?
I define professionalism with honor and integrity. What's yours?
 
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Best Buckeye;1865079; said:
Well you do have a burden of proof if you are goint to cast aspersions. Many people post accusations in here without a shred of proof and eveyone else justs jumps in the feeding frenzie.
Maybe you could claim Ord as your proof?
I define professionalism with honor and integrity. What's yours?
I'm not casting any "aspersions" that haven't been discussed ad nauseum on multiple Ohio State message boards. You can chose to believe it or not.

And, what does honor and integrity have to do with getting into a pissing match with an e!spn prop? Handling things with some dignity is professional, and I assume that's the path they chose to take. Do you really think they would come off looking good by getting into a public dick measuring contest with an e!spn announcer? I don't. I would prefer they handle it privately, if at all, because they have much bigger fish to fry.

Anyway, I'm done. You like Herbie, most of us don't. Nobody's gonna change the other's opinions.
 
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NFBuck;1865086; said:
I'm not casting any "aspersions" that haven't been discussed ad nauseum on multiple Ohio State message boards. You can chose to believe it or not.

And, what does honor and integrity have to do with getting into a [censored]ing match with an e!spn prop? Handling things with some dignity is professional, and I assume that's the path they chose to take. Do you really think they would come off looking good by getting into a public dick measuring contest with an e!spn announcer? I don't. I would prefer they handle it privately, if at all, because they have much bigger fish to fry.

Anyway, I'm done. You like Herbie, most of us don't. Nobody's gonna change the others opinions.
Anytime you post unproven items you are casting aspersions simply because you are supporting that which you repeat. Why not take that to the rumor mill.
I never said anything a bout a pissing match, you did, but that's different from making a one time remark.
 
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Best Buckeye;1865090; said:
I never said anything a bout a pissing match, you did, but that's different from making a one time remark.
Except, like, you know, you did ... 'twas you who used that terminology.
earlier in thread ....
Best Buckeye;1865072; said:
Yes I do think they would speak out if it were necessary becuase that would be professional even if they don't get in a pissing match.

Which is what NFBuck was responding to when citing that term in his reply.
 
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Best Buckeye;1865090; said:
Anytime you post unproven items you are casting aspersions simply because you are supporting that which you repeat. Why not take that to the rumor mill.
Well, then there's a lot of cleaning up and moving to the rumor mill to be done on the boards...

As for the "ostracize" stuff, I'm not breaking any news there. That's been discussed for a long time on tOSU boards.
 
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NFBuck;1865102; said:
Well, then there's a lot of cleaning up and moving to the rumor mill to be done on the boards...

As for the "ostracize" stuff, I'm not breaking any news there. That's been discussed for a long time on tOSU boards.
There's a big difference between discussed and documented.
There is also a lot of name calling, pictures and bashing going on because of undocumented rumors and statements made just because someone saw or said something in a particular light.
 
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sandgk;1865097; said:
Except, like, you know, you did ... 'twas you who used that terminology.
earlier in thread ....
Actually it was NFBuck in his post #1256 who brought the pissing match stuff, not me.
I guess he was refering to his own post then...
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Best Buckeye;1865110; said:
There's a big difference between discussed and documented.
There is also a lot of name calling, pictures and bashing going on because of undocumented rumors and statements made just because someone saw or said something in a particular light.

Actually, he called out, by name, multiple players and slandered them without them ever having been found or even implicated in doing anything wrong. Plenty of documentation about that.
 
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Best Buckeye;1865110; said:
There's a big difference between discussed and documented.
There is also a lot of name calling, pictures and bashing going on because of undocumented rumors and statements made just because someone saw or said something in a particular light.


In fairness, I think that there was a recent reference from soneone in this community who is highly respected for their inside understanding of the program who mentioned something to the effect of no love lost between KH and JT. I wish I had time to go back and find it... I'm pretty sure that it was in this thread.

If anyone knows that of which I type and can link back to it, greenies for you... (PM me if I miss your post, reading this thread generally makes me sick).

While this may be a case of no corpus delicti, there's enough circumstantial evidence for me to believe that there is a fairly significant rift between the parties involved. Perhaps the lack of any evidence of a good relationship between the parties is all one really needs, all things considered.

Frankly, if this thread dies and fades as I think many of us think KH's loyalty to our program has faded... I'd be just fine with it.
 
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sparcboxbuck;1865149; said:
In fairness, I think that there was a recent reference from soneone in this community who is highly respected for their inside understanding of the program who mentioned something to the effect of no love lost between KH and JT. I wish I had time to go back and find it... I'm pretty sure that it was in this thread.

If anyone knows that of which I type and can link back to it, greenies for you... (PM me if I miss your post, reading this thread generally makes me sick).

Here you go.

osugrad21 said:
Cinci, I've never been a Herbie basher...borderline apologist at times. However, are you honestly saying you don't see any difference in how he handled Cam Newton and the Tat-5? Are you defending his "addition by subtraction" comments?

Here is a fact for you that I cannot provide a link or connection...Herbie and JT do not care for one another. Herbie LOVED Dave Kennedy. JT did not appreciate news being leaked from his program. JT fired Kennedy.

You can hold your opinion...I did for a long time. However, recently, I don't have much defense for such blatant actions.

Dave Kennedy was Herbie's "deep throat" in tOSU football program.
 
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