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QB J.T. Barrett (B1G FOY, All American, Silver Football Award, 3x B1G QBOY, National Champion)

That 7 is really, really pissing me off

I'm not happy about it, either. The runner's foot was out of bounds at the 5. Clearly, Ohio State gave up on the play, as they stopped Illinois on fourth down. If they kept trying to tackle the runner, they might have been called for unsportsmanlike conduct.

I think the replay booth thought we were Penn State.
 
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Five years as a First Sergeant in the "Chair Force" and never once saw a confined-to-quarters by an Article 15...in the squadrons I was in our any other. Must've been that Hickam AFB aloha thing...
Well, confined to quarters in the air conditioned, free wifi, student lounge Air Force is a whole lot different than the low rent, low life barracks of the Army and the corps. :-)
 
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I think we should have drones patrolling I-75 between Lexington and Knoxville. Any truck in the left lane gets hit with a Hellfire and the resulting junk pushed to the side by an intergalactic bulldozer.
 
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You mean the ones in which you, in typical Mili fashion, refuse to admit you were wrong when you, at the outset, took an extremely strong position on an issue of which you knew nothing and turned out, again, to be wrong? Yes, I have.
Show me where I was "wrong", let alone refusing to admit so. I initially stated I felt the punishment was "light", which was based on my direct experience dealing with DUI violators where I've been. I then made these two posts:

It mentioned the $400 fine and 6-month suspension. The only thing it left out was the 3-day class. The class is likely the only set-in-concrete thing of the three, whilst the other two can vary in severity, so that's like why it wasn't mentioned because it was a given.


Big difference between $400 and $1,000 for a college kid.


No, "a whole lot of people" are concerned whether or not JT is getting preferential treatment, and the resulting media blowback and potential distractions.


If what JT got is the "norm", then cool.

If it's the "norm", it's also cool that he's not getting preferential treatment. I was going on the "normal" DUI punishments I've seen in the past (virtually all here in Hawaii).
In the first post I addressed why I thought I had questions on his punishment, and in both posts I said that if what JT got was the norm--for where he lives--then it's cool. I may feel that Ohio's DUI punishment is lighter than other place (and it is), as long as JT didn't get preferential treatment, I'm good with it.

So unknot your panties and have a creamy orange margarita, NDChief II.
 
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I lost a 22 year old son last Friday. Killed by a drunk driver. Will had gone to Coshocton, about 30 miles south, to take senior pictures of a girl down there. He was on a rural short-cut road, and another 22 year old, with a blood alcohol content twice the limit, fell asleep and crashed head on into him, and Will was killed instantly. There was 6-8 inches between the steering wheel and Will's seat - no room for a human being to survive that. We buried him yesterday. It's been a brutal week.

Will was not our biological son. He was a friend of my daughter's. You know the type of kid - from a troubled family. Actually, calling his family dysfunctional is an insult to the word "dysfunctional". We took him in and tried to be mentors, surrogate parents, etc. to him. We weren't the only ones. Tons of people stepped up to help this kid because we all saw the potential in him to become a very good man with a little help. We loved him and he loved us.

Will had a good heart, but he had demons, and sometimes he found himself in the world of numbing his pain with drugs and alcohol. I know that there were probably 500 nights when he could have been the one who killed someone. Ironically, in the past 6 months, he had cleaned his life up and was on the verge of becoming the great man we all saw him to have the potential to be, but another troubled young man's errors caused the story to end right there. The knowledge that it could easily have been the other way around is the basis we have for forgiving the other young man.

I have been a huge JT fan, and still am. His mistake does not change that, and neither does Will's death. I believe that he will/has learned from his error, and I would be the most surprised of his fans if he ever did anything like this again. Fortunately, in his case, the worst did not happen, but I would feel better if I knew that he knows that he put himself in the position where the worst could have happened. As long as he understands this, I'm good with the consequences he has suffered. On the other hand, if he repeats this mistake, clearly, the consequences were not sufficient for him to have learned his lesson. I can tell him right now, he never wants to cause the kind of anguish to a family that we have experienced in this past week.
 
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I lost a 22 year old son last Friday. Killed by a drunk driver. Will had gone to Coshocton, about 30 miles south, to take senior pictures of a girl down there. He was on a rural short-cut road, and another 22 year old, with a blood alcohol content twice the limit, fell asleep and crashed head on into him, and Will was killed instantly. There was 6-8 inches between the steering wheel and Will's seat - no room for a human being to survive that. We buried him yesterday. It's been a brutal week.

Will was not our biological son. He was a friend of my daughter's. You know the type of kid - from a troubled family. Actually, calling his family dysfunctional is an insult to the word "dysfunctional". We took him in and tried to be mentors, surrogate parents, etc. to him. We weren't the only ones. Tons of people stepped up to help this kid because we all saw the potential in him to become a very good man with a little help. We loved him and he loved us.

Will had a good heart, but he had demons, and sometimes he found himself in the world of numbing his pain with drugs and alcohol. I know that there were probably 500 nights when he could have been the one who killed someone. Ironically, in the past 6 months, he had cleaned his life up and was on the verge of becoming the great man we all saw him to have the potential to be, but another troubled young man's errors caused the story to end right there. The knowledge that it could easily have been the other way around is the basis we have for forgiving the other young man.

I have been a huge JT fan, and still am. His mistake does not change that, and neither does Will's death. I believe that he will/has learned from his error, and I would be the most surprised of his fans if he ever did anything like this again. Fortunately, in his case, the worst did not happen, but I would feel better if I knew that he knows that he put himself in the position where the worst could have happened. As long as he understands this, I'm good with the consequences he has suffered. On the other hand, if he repeats this mistake, clearly, the consequences were not sufficient for him to have learned his lesson. I can tell him right now, he never wants to cause the kind of anguish to a family that we have experienced in this past week.
Condolences, OSUK. I'm sure this has indeed been a difficult week.
 
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I lost a 22 year old son last Friday. Killed by a drunk driver. Will had gone to Coshocton, about 30 miles south, to take senior pictures of a girl down there. He was on a rural short-cut road, and another 22 year old, with a blood alcohol content twice the limit, fell asleep and crashed head on into him, and Will was killed instantly. There was 6-8 inches between the steering wheel and Will's seat - no room for a human being to survive that. We buried him yesterday. It's been a brutal week.

Will was not our biological son. He was a friend of my daughter's. You know the type of kid - from a troubled family. Actually, calling his family dysfunctional is an insult to the word "dysfunctional". We took him in and tried to be mentors, surrogate parents, etc. to him. We weren't the only ones. Tons of people stepped up to help this kid because we all saw the potential in him to become a very good man with a little help. We loved him and he loved us.

Will had a good heart, but he had demons, and sometimes he found himself in the world of numbing his pain with drugs and alcohol. I know that there were probably 500 nights when he could have been the one who killed someone. Ironically, in the past 6 months, he had cleaned his life up and was on the verge of becoming the great man we all saw him to have the potential to be, but another troubled young man's errors caused the story to end right there. The knowledge that it could easily have been the other way around is the basis we have for forgiving the other young man.

I have been a huge JT fan, and still am. His mistake does not change that, and neither does Will's death. I believe that he will/has learned from his error, and I would be the most surprised of his fans if he ever did anything like this again. Fortunately, in his case, the worst did not happen, but I would feel better if I knew that he knows that he put himself in the position where the worst could have happened. As long as he understands this, I'm good with the consequences he has suffered. On the other hand, if he repeats this mistake, clearly, the consequences were not sufficient for him to have learned his lesson. I can tell him right now, he never wants to cause the kind of anguish to a family that we have experienced in this past week.

Your story puts things into perspective. I'm so sorry for your loss.
 
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I lost a 22 year old son last Friday. Killed by a drunk driver. Will had gone to Coshocton, about 30 miles south, to take senior pictures of a girl down there. He was on a rural short-cut road, and another 22 year old, with a blood alcohol content twice the limit, fell asleep and crashed head on into him, and Will was killed instantly. There was 6-8 inches between the steering wheel and Will's seat - no room for a human being to survive that. We buried him yesterday. It's been a brutal week.

Will was not our biological son. He was a friend of my daughter's. You know the type of kid - from a troubled family. Actually, calling his family dysfunctional is an insult to the word "dysfunctional". We took him in and tried to be mentors, surrogate parents, etc. to him. We weren't the only ones. Tons of people stepped up to help this kid because we all saw the potential in him to become a very good man with a little help. We loved him and he loved us.

Will had a good heart, but he had demons, and sometimes he found himself in the world of numbing his pain with drugs and alcohol. I know that there were probably 500 nights when he could have been the one who killed someone. Ironically, in the past 6 months, he had cleaned his life up and was on the verge of becoming the great man we all saw him to have the potential to be, but another troubled young man's errors caused the story to end right there. The knowledge that it could easily have been the other way around is the basis we have for forgiving the other young man.

I have been a huge JT fan, and still am. His mistake does not change that, and neither does Will's death. I believe that he will/has learned from his error, and I would be the most surprised of his fans if he ever did anything like this again. Fortunately, in his case, the worst did not happen, but I would feel better if I knew that he knows that he put himself in the position where the worst could have happened. As long as he understands this, I'm good with the consequences he has suffered. On the other hand, if he repeats this mistake, clearly, the consequences were not sufficient for him to have learned his lesson. I can tell him right now, he never wants to cause the kind of anguish to a family that we have experienced in this past week.
Praying for you and family.
 
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OSUK. Speechless. In Afrikaans, there is a word for persevering through tough times: vasbyt (FOSS-bait). It means to bite into something and hold on or to clench one's teeth in determination. Vasbyt, boet, vasbyt.
 
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Show me where I was "wrong",

You said "That's a pretty light punishment...really light, in fact." And you insinuated that the judge must be a Buckeyes fan, having given such an abnormal or (in your words) "really light" punishment to JT.

Multiple posters responded that JT's punishment was, in fact, the norm. Stating the obvious, you were wrong. This really shouldn't be that difficult for you to grasp.

let alone refusing to admit so.

You're still refusing.
 
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You said "That's a pretty light punishment...really light, in fact." And you insinuated that the judge must be a Buckeyes fan, having given such an abnormal or (in your words) "really light" punishment to JT.

Multiple posters responded that JT's punishment was, in fact, the norm. Stating the obvious, you were wrong. This really shouldn't be that difficult for you to grasp.



You're still refusing.

In case you hadn't noticed, the thread just got somber. Maybe you can take your pillow fight with Mili offline?
 
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