QB Dwayne Haskins Jr. (All B1G, B1G OPOY, Silver Football, Rose Bowl MVP, R.I.P.)

[BuckBuckTN]

Waaaah!!

I know it hurts to have someone not agree with you, but don't cry.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

No, my problem is that Haskins is still VERY VERY green to be calling him "generational." He's a good, young QB who had a tremendous year. He has great talent, enormous =potential= as a QB.

This "generational" tag after 15 games? I saw threads during this season with people calling for Martelll when Haskins wasn't willing (or allowed) to run. Yes, he started being a good runner..... but that was development.

Just step back a bit..... that's all I'm saying..... 15 games isn't a lot of games to evaluate a QB.

For that, you guys wanna filet me. Well, fine. If reality pisses you off, fine.

We were calling for Martell because the running game wasn’t working, not because Haskins wasn’t.

 

[BuckBuckTN]

When you can't debate; just make some shit up that nobody has said.
Thanks... troll away.

I'm not trolling anyone. I'm not taking any crap for my opinion and neither should you.

Haskins is young, he was very few games...... damn good games....... but very few games for me to believe he can solidly be seen as transformational or generational for the NFL.

Will he be first round? Yes...... Should he be? This year, yes.

We agree way more than we disagree.

 

[cjmik_75]

Trollololololoolll

 

[jwinslow]

That's the problem with this board.

yes it's always everyone else's problem that your contributions result in this.

I CLEARLY said Haskins is "not that much better" than Herbert.

Don't they teach reading at tOSU anymore?

oh you did, did you?

Haskins is, as I've said, a bigger risk. He'll have something like 15 college games under his belt. That's hardly a proven, generational talent.

That's all I've said.

sure, you're the victim here.

As though Herbert doesn't even exist.... or Lock, both damn good QBs. Haskins is good, but the homers on this board are fucking blind......

ONE GREAT YEAR IN COLLEGE. Ask Kelly Bryant or Jalen Hurts about having one great year in college.

this might be your most dreadful post yet. Jalen Hurts, the poor man's JT Barrett? Pray tell when was this great season?

My point is that one great year in college is just that...... one great year in college.

then you have no useful points to add to this board. Why don't we bring up JT Barrett in all discussions about young, potential top 10 picks at QB? I mean they both had some success in college so it must be relevant right? No?

 

[jwinslow]

I'm not trolling anyone. I'm not taking any crap for my opinion and neither should you.

laughing at the crappy homers was literally how you trashed the discourse upon arrival tonight.

P.s. it's really hard to imagine which poster you could have been before.

We agree way more than we disagree.

 

[MaxBuck]

Anyone who thinks the QB who broke all of Drew Brees's records is not a generational talent does not qualify as the brightest bulb in the box.

 

[BuckBuckTN]

yes it's always everyone else's problem that your contributions result in this.oh you did, did you?
sure, you're the victim here.

this might be your most dreadful post yet. Jalen Hurts, the poor man's JT Barrett? Pray tell when was this great season?
then you have no useful points to add to this board. Why don't we bring up JT Barrett in all discussions about young, potential top 10 picks at QB? I mean they both had some success in college so it must be relevant right? No?

I'll agree and return to lurking here, as I did for years.

It's not worth it here.

Thanks for the fish.......

 

[jwinslow]

What's the exact number of games required before we're allowed to discuss a generational talent ?

According to our universally adored hall monitor, QBs who are unmatched in 100+ years at the winningest program in modern CFB history? Not qualified. The best B1G prospect in a generation? The same.

Elite DEs who reach the league 3 years after a sibling at the same position? Definitely generational (never mind the Bears DE) and a good way to shame phrasing from others over nuanced distinctions in terminology.

At this time, yes. BOTH he and Haskins are still green and will need development. Herbert has a touch more seasoning, Haskins has a touch more raw talent.

In the end, though, both are good..... hardly great or "generational" like Bosa..... but really good QBs. You guys make it sound like Haskins is the Second Coming...... he's not. He's one of 2 good prospects this year..... with Lock being a sleeper in my eyes.

 

[jwinslow]

Anyone who thinks the QB who broke all of Drew Brees's records is not a generational talent does not qualify as the brightest bulb in the box.

Generational talents can flame out. There are plenty of concerns about his experience and ability to stick in the league.

None of that changes the talent.

 

[BayBuck]

Dwayne threw for 1,200 more yards and 10 more TDs...on 200 more attempts. Tua was the best player on the most dominant team and, for the majority of the season, highly efficient. They were finalists for different reasons.

Tua is not the best player on Bama - otherwise they would have probably gotten worse when he went out. Of course he's a great player, deserving Heisman finalist, and future high draft pick, but "most dominant team" (and best coach ever) is clearly the main factor behind his ridiculous stats.

 

[Mike80]

Anyone who thinks the QB who broke all of Drew Brees's records is not a generational talent does not qualify as the brightest bulb in the box.

@BuckBuckTN you need to stay. Your commentary got both Max and I on the same page. Rain is now falling upwards.

 

[Mike80]

This is correct and I agree completely.

For the B1G, he was an amazing QB. And at the next level he may also be amazing, but he's just too young to read...... 15 games.

This comparison to Manning or Luck is ridiculous at this point. There's just not enough snaps to know.

Should he go? I think he should. Do I think he'd be better if he waited a year or two, yes......IF..... he didn't get hurt or a thousand other potential problems.

I wish him well and will follow him at the next level.

For ANY conference he is an amazing QB. He took what is nominally a run/pass balanced offense and produced the best season by a QB in B1G history.

He has a legitimate shot at being the first B1G QB to lead the nation in passing yards since 1961.

He has a legitimate shot to throw for 50 TDs and will almost certainly lead the NCAA in TD passes thrown.

He will end up throwing over 500 passes this year. You continue to focus on games played and that's fine, but it's more about how he has played in those games.

Of course he's young - they are in COLLEGE for Christ's sake.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Take a look at Drew Brees's sohpmore stats when he set that TD record and realize that he threw 60-70 more passes and had 500 fewer yards than Haskins, oh.....and also threw 20(!!!) interceptions. The numbers Haskins put up this year are insane. If that doesn't qualify him as generational at OSU and in the Big Ten, then I don't know what does. Does it make him a generational prospect? Eh.....not in my imo.

 

[1926Buckeyes]

My opinion of Justin Herbert would be better if he changed his name to Herbert Herbert.