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QB CJ Stroud (All B1G, 2022 B1G QB of the Year, All-American, NFL OROY, Houston Texans)

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Abenaki said:
As talented as CJ is, this might be a better team with McCord or Brown running things next year. This quote is...telling.

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Geez. Great passer, good kid but this ain’t the way to Buckeye lore.

The lockerroom just doesn’t get it. One game. THIS game does define you. It also is the main path to other goals - Big Ten and NCs. Without this game what else is there? It’s about winning and if you want to be great it starts the last Saturday in November.
 
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OHSportsFan said:
Geez. Great passer, good kid but this ain’t the way to Buckeye lore.

The lockerroom just doesn’t get it. One game. THIS game does define you. It also is the main path to other goals - Big Ten and NCs. Without this game what else is there? It’s about winning and if you want to be great it starts the last Saturday in November.
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It is the locker room and not just C.J.

And it comes from the top (meaning Day). We really need to fix something (it's multiple things that seem wrong right now).
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
Lacking the IT factor and not being able to put a team on his shoulders to win a game. I think this is where his lack of emotion and cool headed nature is a killer.

JJ put his team on his back today and willed them to a win. He’s nowhere near the talent of stroud, but it didn’t matter.
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It's hard to put a team on your back when a QB is as unwilling of a runner that Stroud is. I don't think he has those runner instincts that other Buckeye QBs had. He tends to wait too long for receivers to come open when he scrambles then loses his running window.

It's a flaw in his game that I think other coaches would have worked on from the first game he played. Day just seem perfectly fine with him being a unwilling runner until a couple games ago.

Stroud might be better in the NFL but he had off games with clean pockets and vastly superior WR talent compared to his opponents, which he won't have either in the NFL.
 
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GovTressel said:
All the negative talk at the game and online about this kid is absurd. He’s had a hell of a career and is an all-time Buckeye great. Everyone who’s never done anything at the level these kids play this sport at demand perfection…it’s laughable.
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GovTressel said:
Fuck off
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I was very happy with Stroud as a QB the last 2 years, and he might be the the most talented QB I've seen in Columbus. He had the potential to win it all. He will still never have a pair of gold pants, which is insane to think about. And even more insane that it doesn't seem to bother him:
Abenaki said:
As talented as CJ is, this might be a better team with McCord or Brown running things next year. This quote is...telling.

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TampaBuckeyes said:
I was very happy with Stroud as a QB the last 2 years, and he might be the the most talented QB I've seen in Columbus. He had the potential to win it all. He will still never have a pair of gold pants, which is insane to think about. And even more insane that it doesn't seem to bother him:
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I think it does bother him I took that as a kid trying to retionalize the last 2 years. Trying to see a way he doesn't view his career as a failure. Not as naw man I don't give a shit
 
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TampaBuckeyes said:
I was very happy with Stroud as a QB the last 2 years, and he might be the the most talented QB I've seen in Columbus. He had the potential to win it all. He will still never have a pair of gold pants, which is insane to think about. And even more insane that it doesn't seem to bother him:
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I'm not in the locker room, so I don't have a full picture of CJ as a leader. I'm going to spend a lot of time wondering how CJs career would have turned out under Urban.

That said, I do not have CJ Stroud on MY "all-time great" tOSU qbs list. Sorry, for me, it's about more than talent and stats. Give me Troy Smith, JT Barrett, DH7 or Justin Fields, just in the modern era, over CJ Stroud.

Immensely talented kid, he put up some stupid numbers, and had some huge games, but he will leave 0-2 in The Game, with no championships of any kind. Those facts are an auto elimination from the discussion for me.

Unfortunately a victim of Ryan Day's approach.
 
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dragurd said:
I think it does bother him I took that as a kid trying to retionalize the last 2 years. Trying to see a way he doesn't view his career as a failure. Not as naw man I don't give a shit
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The goal for Stroud might have just to be a highly drafted QB and Day has most likely help him to accomplish that. I think for alot of QBs know they might not even get a chance at the NFL but CJ Stroud was rank #2 pro QB out of high school, the expectations were there for him.

Day has coached 3 highly drafted QBs since he has been with the Buckeyes. Stroud should be the 4th. When Fields came to the Buckeyes it felt like it was more of a stop over than he came to accomplish something big in college. Maybe Stroud had the same attitude.

Day has created and recruited an offense that showcases QB talent for the NFL. He also has shown he can help to develop them.

There might be a difference in mentality of the #1 or #2 QB prospects vs guys that are #6 or #8. There are only 32 starting QB jobs in the NFL and when it doesn't seem like a given that you will get a shot, accomplishments in college might mean more.
 
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inliner311 said:
The goal for Stroud might have just to be a highly drafted QB and Day has most likely help him to accomplish that. I think for alot of QBs know they might not even get a chance at the NFL but CJ Stroud was rank #2 pro QB out of high school, the expectations were there for him.

Day has coached 3 highly drafted QBs since he has been with the Buckeyes. Stroud should be the 4th. When Fields came to the Buckeyes it felt like it was more of a stop over than he came to accomplish something big in college. Maybe Stroud had the same attitude.

Day has created and recruited an offense that showcases QB talent for the NFL. He also has shown he can help to develop them.

There might be a difference in mentality of the #1 or #2 QB prospects vs guys that are #6 or #8. There are only 32 starting QB jobs in the NFL and when it doesn't seem like a given that you will get a shot, accomplishments in college might mean more.
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Great point and I never thought of it that way.

For example JJ McCarthy probably isn't a 1st round pick so these games to him are more meaningful I'd imagine. Like you point out..Fields and Stroud chose Ohio State to go pro so there's not that level of determination I'd imagine as a kid who might not even play at the next level.
 
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