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Purdue +14.5 at tOSU (ov/un 131.5) Tue 9 ET, ESPN

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In football they call this a "trap" game.

The Buckeyes got the Madison monkey off their backs last time out while Purdue was getting humiliated by their in state rivals at home.

Tonight PU came out focused and played over their heads while the Buckeyes lacked the defensive intensity they had at Wisconsin. Fortunately, the senior William Buford stepped up and had his best game when his team really needed it, and pulled out a win despite not playing their best.

It's a long season. They won't all be pretty. Getting a win against a determined opponent when you don't play your best shows character. The Buckeyes did that tonight, 87-84. :)
 
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Like I said, just personal preference that I like when analysts don't sugar coat anything and instead give me what he knows. Not a huge disagreement. :)

Bucky Katt said:
To me, it's the same as the difference between criticizing a Buckeye and bashing a Buckeye here. There are ways to be critical without being demeaning. His criticism crossed that line, in my opinion.
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But he's also not catering to Buckeye fans. Boilermakers want to know what their team needs to do to win. Attacking Thomas was it.

Thomas is NOT a great defender, he may not even be a good defender, but he has worked hard to improve to the point that he's at right now. Dakich made it sound like Thomas wasn't trying and didn't even care.
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Sometimes he gets so lost that it does appear that way. He calls it the same way with Barlow who has been known for his laziness and it leads to opposing teams scoring. Which affects the game ([jo4h]more points wins[/jo4h]).

I know it's not great to hear, but I'm not going to bury my head. The defensive effort tonight didn't look like a team (all players) trying at many points.
 
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OHSportsFan;2106022; said:
Like I said, just personal preference that I like when analysts don't sugar coat anything and instead give me what he knows. Not a huge disagreement. :)


But he's also not catering to Buckeye fans. Boilermakers want to know what their team needs to do to win. Attacking Thomas was it.


Sometimes he gets so lost that it does appear that way. He calls it the same way with Barlow who has been known for his laziness and it leads to opposing teams scoring. Which affects the game ([jo4h]more points wins[/jo4h]).

I know it's not great to hear, but I'm not going to bury my head. The defensive effort tonight didn't look like a team (all players) trying at many points.
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Fair enough.

I guess I'd just rather hear :

"Purdue should continue to run the pick and roll with Thomas's man. He's really struggling out there with it. He struggled with the same thing trying to guard Erik Murphy earlier against Florida. I'm surprised more teams haven't tried to exploit that weakness"

rather than:
"Thomas is just awful out there. He couldn't guard me."

It goes from critical to insulting at that point, in my IMO.

Asshole. :biggrin:
 
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Boilers Fan;2106019; said:
Solid effort by your Bucks tonight, great game by Buford. We were undermanned and couldn't get a board to save our lives, and probably won't make the tournament, but hopefully we gained a little respect this evening from Buckeye players and faithful. Took a hot shooting night to keep it close, but, I'd rather lose by 3 than 25.
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If Purdue can play with that effort the rest of the way, and shoot the ball from deep even reasonably well they should have a shot at the tournament. After the last game against IU, I would be pround of my teams effort tonight if i were a Purdue fan.
 
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OSU stat wise has been a very good defensive team this year only allowing 52 or so points a game this year.
But are they really that good? I don't think so.
They gave up a lot of 3's tonight but they also gave up a lot of easy lay-ups. Purdue had only 3 turnovers, (that's unreal!) Hell Craft usually has that many steals in a game,
Sully and Thomas are not good defender's period.
WB went off tonight, and OSU shot very well hitting 9 3's, that is why OSU won this game. The D was flat awful.
 
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Jake;2105914; said:
Ohio State is 6th in the nation in scoring defense, so it can't be happening very often.
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That's great and way to take the easy way out and ignore the problem.

Kansas, Florida, Illinois, and now Purdue. Granted they are 2-2 in those games but every single one of them featured a player going off from 3 and Ohio State did not have any answers or adjustments to slow them down.

It's going to bite Ohio State in the ass come tourney time. I can feel it. There has to be an adjustment or some accountability SOMEWHERE.
 
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MaxBuck;2106017; said:
Buckeyes need to learn how to deal with the high ball screen. Killed us at Illinois, too.

And yes, I know, I said after that game that our perimeter D was not a concern. I was wrong.
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Our perimeter D is only a problem when they set screens with bigs IMO. I still have faith in our back-court defense, but haven't seen the necessary improvement from the front-court with the hedge and recover.
 
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MUBuck;2106097; said:
Our perimeter D is only a problem when they set screens with bigs IMO. I still have faith in our back-court defense, but haven't seen the necessary improvement from the front-court with the hedge and recover.
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This. Anyone who watches non B1G basketball... How are our games a being called w/r/t moving picks relative to the rest of the country? Seems like Ed Hightower and his minions don't seem to call that very often.
 
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MUBuck;2106097; said:
Our perimeter D is only a problem when they set screens with bigs IMO. I still have faith in our back-court defense, but haven't seen the necessary improvement from the front-court with the hedge and recover.
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It also doesn't help when Byrd and Hummell just weren't missing shots.
 
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The Bucks did not play great D last night and their intensity was very inconsistent.

They are coming off their first win in Madison in a decade and lining up for a showdown with MSU on Saturday.

They were a bit flat on Tuesday.

Nothing to see here.
 
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Oh8ch;2106127; said:
The Bucks did not play great D last night and their intensity was very inconsistent.

They are coming off their first win in Madison in a decade and lining up for a showdown with MSU on Saturday.

They were a bit flat on Tuesday.

Nothing to see here.
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I'll agree with this when I know that Sully's back isn't an issue again.
 
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