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Let's just lock all children in rubber rooms, duct taped to the wall until thier 18th b-day, that way, they can't make any mistakes.
Underage drinking has happened, is happening, and will continue to happen. All this test does is single out kids who didn't do anything wrong and make them prove it. BS. What happens if all the tests are clean?
Underage drinking has happened, is happening, and will continue to happen. All this test does is single out kids who didn't do anything wrong and make them prove it. BS. What happens if all the tests are clean?
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Bingo. Now, instead of being at the prom drunk with adult supervision, the kids who are going to drink anyway will just go to someones house, with no supervision and proceed to get shitfaced. Or, even worse, just drive country roads and get shitfaced. But, at least it isn't the schools problem anymore. This isn't about keeping the children safe, its about liability.
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Uh they gain admission.
You have no idea how insane parents have become in regards to constantly second-guessing administrators and teachers.
God forbid a school become responsible and try to illustrate to students what behavior is acceptable at formal events.
A sue-happy parent would be more than willing to sue a school if the school had knowledge that a student attneded prom drunk and then drove home and killed someone.
The schools are doing the community and it's citizens a favor by instituting such a policy.
Are students going to drink, yes. But let them do it in a hotel room where they don't have to drive once they get there.
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Golferdow01
East-Coast Living
Uh they gain admission.
You have no idea how insane parents have become in regards to constantly second-guessing administrators and teachers.
God forbid a school become responsible and try to illustrate to students what behavior is acceptable at formal events.
A sue-happy parent would be more than willing to sue a school if the school had knowledge that a student attneded prom drunk and then drove home and killed someone.
Bingo.
Since the teachers and chaperones are responsable for the kids, then there shouldn't be drinking...period.
If you want to drink, go do it elsewhere.
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I respectfully disagree. The schools are indeed worried about lawsuits. The kids well being is not what this rule is about. It is about the school covering its own ass in case of a lawsuit. I wish they would just come out and say it.
I understand that parents today expect alot more from schools than they should.
Btw, the last time I checked, you had to be 25 to get a hotel room. Most prom/ after prom drinking happens at either a house where the parents don't care/ aren't home, or just driving to a secluded area (i.e. blackhand gorge(sp?).) So, alot of the kids end up driving anyway. But, like I said, at least the school holds no responsibility.
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Oh really, then how did we get a hotel room when we were 18?
All it takes is a credit card basically.
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I had tried at 18, 19, and 22. No dice on any of them. I was even travelling home from Georgia once and the car I was driving broke down in Rainsville TN. The Relax Inn clerk told me that you had to be 25 to rent a room. Allthough, I admit I didn't have a credit card. And I doubt too many high schoolers have one either.
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AJHawkfan
Wanna make $14 the hard way?
It is a combination of things. In general, today's parents want to be buddies with their kids and be "cool". This means forcing someone else to be the bad guy. They would rather let someone else (teachers, for example) raise their kids and then bitch about how poor of a job the teachers are doing.
The community service group I'm in used to sponsor Junior High dances at our hall, with us members volunteering our time serving as chaperones. The kids loved the dances and begged us to have more. While the dance was going on, we (the chaperones) would hang out behind the bar, have a few beers, and the smokers would have a few cigarettes, and so on - nothing out of control.
Well, word got back to one of the parents that we were drinking in front of the kids and the parent complained about it, saying that they didn't want their kid exposed to drinking and smoking. So, instead of getting into a pissing match, we just pulled the plug on hosting the dances. Now, once again, the kids have nothing to do on Saturday nights, so they go hang out at the local bowling alley; which is full of people drinking and smoking......
The community service group I'm in used to sponsor Junior High dances at our hall, with us members volunteering our time serving as chaperones. The kids loved the dances and begged us to have more. While the dance was going on, we (the chaperones) would hang out behind the bar, have a few beers, and the smokers would have a few cigarettes, and so on - nothing out of control.
Well, word got back to one of the parents that we were drinking in front of the kids and the parent complained about it, saying that they didn't want their kid exposed to drinking and smoking. So, instead of getting into a pissing match, we just pulled the plug on hosting the dances. Now, once again, the kids have nothing to do on Saturday nights, so they go hang out at the local bowling alley; which is full of people drinking and smoking......
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Or else a parent that gets the room for you, which allot of people do.
As for the whole thing. Part of what you are saying bum is true. The school is covering their asses to make sure they don't get sued. And there is nothing wrong with that. In todays world where parents think that nothing their kid does should be their fault a school needs to cover their ass.
Beyond that it really just taking things like prom promise and stuff like that to the next level. People are always going to drink their prom night, it happens But don't do it on school property or school events. The school has every right to not allow people who have been drinking in. Hell allot of schools have rules that if you are on the list as to buying a ticket and you don't show up at least an hour after the dance has started they will call the parents.
By not allowing people who have been drinking it does mean that the school can't be held responsible for the drunks, and gasp...maybe a parent will have to actually take responsibility, but besides that it also eliminates people who might show up drunk and cause a problem over all. Good on two points.
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I agree with alot of what both of you are saying. It's just that to me, personally, having to prove I didn't do something instead of them proving I did, pisses me off. Depending on what kind of test they are using (the article doesn't mention that) it could be almost a non-issue for me. But in my experience, those tests are invasive and embarrassing. I know people I went to HS with who, to this day, have NEVER even tried alcohol or tobacco. It's not fair to those types of students to have to prove they are good kids. And I think that is where my biggest issue lies. What if there is a false positive on the class president who scored 1580 on his S.A.T.'s? That is not fair to make him/her go through that. Hell, the kid would probably have to go to counseling.
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Golferdow01
East-Coast Living
I have gotten hotel rooms without using a credit card since I've been 20.
It's unfortunate, but a few kids can ruin it for the rest.
Test the kids...you shouldn't be drinking if you're going to a school event.
If you want to drink, don't bother going.
It's unfortunate, but a few kids can ruin it for the rest.
Test the kids...you shouldn't be drinking if you're going to a school event.
If you want to drink, don't bother going.
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Bum I think this right here is the answer to your arguement. I agree that is sucks that a few people have to ruin it for the rest. But unfortunatly, thats how most of our society is. A few bad eggs make it harder for the rest of us.
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I believe that just because someone is under 18, doesn't mean they should be stripped of certain rights. If a few bad apples can spoil the whole bunch, then all citizens should report to the F.B.I. field office and submit a sample of thier D.N.A. It's unfortunate, but a few rapists and murderers can ruin freedom for the rest.
I know that example is extreme, but what the fuck ever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? and "Burden of proof"?
For some reason, I get really pissed when anyone can say "You are under 18, PROVE you DIDN'T do ______."
BTW, does anyone have any idea what form of testing they are using?
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High Lonesome
Hook 'Em
quick thoughts
1.) I drank before prom
2.) If I was found to be drunk I knew I was in trouble
3.) I did not expect the school to "let" me drink
4.) we got a limo for reasons other than going with a big group
5) testing, while it might be a little over the top, isn't a terrible idea, better than no prom
6) cocain is a hell of a drug
1.) I drank before prom
2.) If I was found to be drunk I knew I was in trouble
3.) I did not expect the school to "let" me drink
4.) we got a limo for reasons other than going with a big group
5) testing, while it might be a little over the top, isn't a terrible idea, better than no prom
6) cocain is a hell of a drug
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