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BrutusBobcat
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Ridiculous rule. Tressel is right (by definition). This is a matter for coaches and conferences. Taking points off of the board for an infraction that is essentially harmless is absurd. Does the NCAA not have bigger issues than players high stepping into the endzone? I mean, if every team acted like 1985 Miami, then I could see needing to address this, but I really don't see where there's some widespread maligant problem with this.
Outside of USC, of course. :tongue2:
Outside of USC, of course. :tongue2:
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
BrutusBobcat;1408061; said:
To be fair, they aren't taking points off the board any more than they are when they call holding 20 yards away from the ball when the ball carrier is on the 5 yard line. Those points were not on the board when the penalty occured. They're just keeping those points from being put on the board on that play.
The "essentially harmless" point is arguable. I'm sure there's a "good" reason the officials want to enforce the rule. There's a "good" reason the rule is in the book, in the first place. I'm not really sure what it is, though. The goober players are going to act like goobers and the classy players are going to act classy. And the goober players are going to act classy and the classy players are going to act like goobers. Whatever.
Personally, I like the "act like you've been there before" concept. But I've also never caught a winning touchdown pass over a big opponent, so I can't say how I'd behave in that situation. I hope I would be a goober. Unless this rule passes, that is.
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martinss01
blissfully stupid
i don't have a problem with taunting penalties being spot fouls and taking points off the board. however, such a penalty should be clearly over the top. anything that makes you think, "hmm... was that taunting?" probably wasn't.
other than changing the clock rules back id really like to see the following:
1. ref's should be able to request a review of a play on their own. they are human, they don't see everything. obviously they would have to make a call based on what they saw, but would then have the ability to call upstairs and request a second look. too many times i have seen refs watch the play, look at eachother hoping the other saw what happened then guess with no review.
2. no ref should ever throw a flag at a player for any reason. expecially not during a play. i remember a play i believe in 05 against scum where the ref threw a flag on a tOSU player and it hit him in the neck. this is 100% uncalled for. there is no need to mark the location a penalty occured with a piece of cloth. just drop the flag on the ground and use replay to determine the spot if needed. seems odd that in this day and age we determine the location in which an infraction occured by the accuracy of a man throwing a piece of fabric. just seems strange to me. wouldn't be too hard to put together a solution and shouldn't slow down the game any. just have 1 guy in the booth who tracked the location of penalties. as soon as the play ends the ref who "drops" the flag calls upstairs what the penalty was and on who. guy upstairs has at most a whopping 10 seconds worth of video to review. holding 77, track when the flag was dropped, look to see what yrd line 77 was on... yay got the spot. done.
i think the "official review" is viewed incorrectly. it should be there as an additional tool at the refs disposal to get the call on the field right. it should not be seen as big brother watching from on high ready to swoop in and highlight all their errors. i assume they are not currently, but all the refs should have a headset on and should be able to speak directly to the booth to explain what they saw and why they made the call they did. we often see a play then a ref make a call followed by a huddle of ref's and occasionally the call changed because one guy saw something the others didn't. booth review should follow the exact same flow. "i saw this, he saw something else, do you see anything we didn't? not, "oh crap, i hope i made the right call otherwise im going to get in trouble".
other than changing the clock rules back id really like to see the following:
1. ref's should be able to request a review of a play on their own. they are human, they don't see everything. obviously they would have to make a call based on what they saw, but would then have the ability to call upstairs and request a second look. too many times i have seen refs watch the play, look at eachother hoping the other saw what happened then guess with no review.
2. no ref should ever throw a flag at a player for any reason. expecially not during a play. i remember a play i believe in 05 against scum where the ref threw a flag on a tOSU player and it hit him in the neck. this is 100% uncalled for. there is no need to mark the location a penalty occured with a piece of cloth. just drop the flag on the ground and use replay to determine the spot if needed. seems odd that in this day and age we determine the location in which an infraction occured by the accuracy of a man throwing a piece of fabric. just seems strange to me. wouldn't be too hard to put together a solution and shouldn't slow down the game any. just have 1 guy in the booth who tracked the location of penalties. as soon as the play ends the ref who "drops" the flag calls upstairs what the penalty was and on who. guy upstairs has at most a whopping 10 seconds worth of video to review. holding 77, track when the flag was dropped, look to see what yrd line 77 was on... yay got the spot. done.
i think the "official review" is viewed incorrectly. it should be there as an additional tool at the refs disposal to get the call on the field right. it should not be seen as big brother watching from on high ready to swoop in and highlight all their errors. i assume they are not currently, but all the refs should have a headset on and should be able to speak directly to the booth to explain what they saw and why they made the call they did. we often see a play then a ref make a call followed by a huddle of ref's and occasionally the call changed because one guy saw something the others didn't. booth review should follow the exact same flow. "i saw this, he saw something else, do you see anything we didn't? not, "oh crap, i hope i made the right call otherwise im going to get in trouble".
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Zurp
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martinss01;1416960; said:
Wow. I agree. But shouldn't we just say that the ref shouldn't throw ANYONE at a player, regardless of his sexual orientations?
martinss01;1416960; said:
I don't like how they say that every play is reviewed, and then they stop play if they think the previous play needs more consideration, but then they tell the coaches that they each get to have plays reviewed, if they want. Shouldn't the replay booth be reviewing these plays anyway? I understand that sometimes the one team runs up to try to snap the ball in a hurry, but the replay booth just needs to be quicker.
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