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Looks like everybody kept their head of a swivel. That's what you gotta do when you're in a vicious CAT FIGHT!
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UM-OSU game costs police, fire thousands in OT
November 29, 2006 03:15 EST
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- It cost police and fire departments more than a half million dollars to keep the peace after Ohio State's big football win over Michigan.
Officials spent about 562-thousand dollars in overtime for police officers and firefighters who worked after the game November 18th. That doesn't include salaries for those working their regular shifts.
Law enforcement officials say it's money well spent, considering the postgame celebration was tame compared to past years.
Ohio State's assistant police chief, Rick Amweg, says the extra money prevented injuries and property damage.
Officials are now turning their attention to preparing for what happens in Columbus after the Buckeyes play in the national championship game on January Eighth in Arizona.
UM-OSU game costs police, fire thousands in OT
November 29, 2006 03:15 EST
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- It cost police and fire departments more than a half million dollars to keep the peace after Ohio State's big football win over Michigan.
Officials spent about 562-thousand dollars in overtime for police officers and firefighters who worked after the game November 18th. That doesn't include salaries for those working their regular shifts.
Law enforcement officials say it's money well spent, considering the postgame celebration was tame compared to past years.
Ohio State's assistant police chief, Rick Amweg, says the extra money prevented injuries and property damage.
Officials are now turning their attention to preparing for what happens in Columbus after the Buckeyes play in the national championship game on January Eighth in Arizona.
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NightmaresDad
Woody Rules!
After Ginn's TD to make it 21-7, I swear I could see LLLLLoyd turn to an assistant and say, "Boy, that escalated quickly!"
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This may cut down some of the stupid things, time will tell.
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OSU student gets 21 days jail time for post-game fire
A former Ohio State student was sentenced to 21 days in jail for setting a couch on fire after Ohio State-Texas football game last fall.
Franklin County Prosecutor Ron O'Brien told The Lantern in September that Peters moved the couch from a porch onto Summit Street and then set fire to it.
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OSU student gets 21 days jail time for post-game fire
A former Ohio State student was sentenced to 21 days in jail for setting a couch on fire after Ohio State-Texas football game last fall.
Franklin County Prosecutor Ron O'Brien told The Lantern in September that Peters moved the couch from a porch onto Summit Street and then set fire to it.
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BB73;773975; said:
that night was rather crazy and by far the craziest of the year. there was a couch fire right outside my house and i was kinda pissed because somebody stole part of our chair and burned it. fire was huge and we had prolly close to 1000 people around it but all in all it was peaceful in our area minus the fire. i guess on 20th there was a dumpster fire. i personally dont want the fires and absurd amount of drunkeness around but comparing the university to where it was 5 years ago is a night and day difference. back then students literally rioted and in some cases attacked the officers. thats rare these days but even though i agree with the university that they should stop all of this it is getting a little out of hand with the stipulations involved. i say the student deserved jailtime but probably the most idiotic rule the university has administered with the city is that if you are in a group of 5 or more people and you see(not even participate) a fire, rowdiness, etc. you can now be arrested on the spot as a rioter since you are in a group that sees such an act. its an absurd rule but the columbus and university police realize it so it hasnt been much of a problem. the rest has been pretty good. porch couches are gone which blows but its understandable and parking guidelines and whatnot are a pain in the ass especially for big games but its all helped to an extent. if you ask me i dont really think it is the threats of what the university wants to administer these days or the riot police, i say everything has improved due to raised academic requirements and the cleaning up of the campus like the gateway. the last osu-michigan game went really well. i dont believe i have ever seen so many people on high street before but it was pretty peaceful all in all.
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jimotis4heisman
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i just find it comical that the generation that says "rioting is bad" had rioting as a trademark of thier college days...
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Jeffcat
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jimotis4heisman;774735; said:
hmmm true to an extent but im not one to comment since i wasnt available to see all of it. i only say that because of the image the public has of the osu student body and what really happens and its pretty inaccurate. rioting has changed i suppose. the problem with the turn of the century students is things were in the process of getting better but not there yet, there was no gateway, no nice chittenden, etc. but mainly academic requirements for most of the partakers in violent riots were those who backed into the university with poor academic standing. granted you will always have this especially with a university as large as osu but the requirements are exceptionally high for a large public university and the riots have in my opinion dwindled to be a very minor problem and they are not really riots anymore but more so isolated incidents. the texas game was far and away the worst "riot" of the year and i dont condone all the fires and other things that went down but i personally feel it was better having more isolated incidents than a catastrophic riot of a large crowd. as i said before we probably had around 1000 people outside our house when there was the fire on our street but you are talking maybe 2 people actually initiating the fire and all the people accumulated from houses on the block since everybody and their mom was having a big party with a lot of people that night.
i guess that would lead me to my next problem i have with all of it. suuuure osu students cause problems but when there are large parties or events it seems to me like other colleges students coming down for the partying partake in a lot of the crap that goes down. they come down with the mindset that they are going to get hammered and win or lose or whatever else they will do something stupid because its not their university and they feel they can get away with it. those assclowns are the ones that appear to osu students just because they wear jerseys around. this is just from my personal experiences what i have noticed as well and i am in no way saying that all of the outside colleges students are bad but i see quite a few who make their intentions clear that they want to be part of the "crazy osu riot experience"
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jimotis4heisman
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i think you have some great points jeffcat.
what im saying. is their are "adults" telling you riots are bad. these same adults (and their peers) had more riots than football games a year. and im not talking generally what we call "riots" i was on campus for the texas home game two years ago. i hung out had a few beers and saw some of the stuff (not all of it). this pales in comparison to what your parents (or close to it) generations was doing at theosu when they were at the university. and these events were occuring all year round (during football season too). its just interesting how history is painted and how some say your generation invented such things. i believe it was woodyworshipper who has a post on the what i can the debacle on the oval that woody himself resolved. someone here can probably enlighten you on the march to the statehouse smashing everything from campus to downtown when the board voted againts the rose bowl. it goes on and on.
im not saying rioting is right. and i think you have a very good point that it should not be something that is accepted. but to some extent its nearly crazy (in my view) for a group to say its a generational thing when thier generation was night and day worse than yours. that being said. honestly ive liked the game day changes ive seen. "the best fans in the land" was a great idea. postitive is always the best approach.
i hope you understand where i come from. if not feel free to clarify as always.
what im saying. is their are "adults" telling you riots are bad. these same adults (and their peers) had more riots than football games a year. and im not talking generally what we call "riots" i was on campus for the texas home game two years ago. i hung out had a few beers and saw some of the stuff (not all of it). this pales in comparison to what your parents (or close to it) generations was doing at theosu when they were at the university. and these events were occuring all year round (during football season too). its just interesting how history is painted and how some say your generation invented such things. i believe it was woodyworshipper who has a post on the what i can the debacle on the oval that woody himself resolved. someone here can probably enlighten you on the march to the statehouse smashing everything from campus to downtown when the board voted againts the rose bowl. it goes on and on.
im not saying rioting is right. and i think you have a very good point that it should not be something that is accepted. but to some extent its nearly crazy (in my view) for a group to say its a generational thing when thier generation was night and day worse than yours. that being said. honestly ive liked the game day changes ive seen. "the best fans in the land" was a great idea. postitive is always the best approach.
i hope you understand where i come from. if not feel free to clarify as always.
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So you are saying all the "dumb" students caused all the problems 10 years ago but now it is just people from other schools?
Wrong.
I was at osu from 1994 to 1999. There were problems then but once again to try to blame it on the students would be wrong. Were students involved? yup. But there are plenty of people who live or visit that area that don't go to osu that were causing problems. So make comments like well now that there are smarter kids here it doesnt cause as many problems is just stupid.
Part of the problem then was the media blew some stuff way up also. The only thing that could probally be a "riot" would ahve been the earthday party where all of 12th was shut down and cars got flip[ped and set on fire. Other than that is was a bunch of drunk kids out of control...but nothing like a "riot"
Wrong.
I was at osu from 1994 to 1999. There were problems then but once again to try to blame it on the students would be wrong. Were students involved? yup. But there are plenty of people who live or visit that area that don't go to osu that were causing problems. So make comments like well now that there are smarter kids here it doesnt cause as many problems is just stupid.
Part of the problem then was the media blew some stuff way up also. The only thing that could probally be a "riot" would ahve been the earthday party where all of 12th was shut down and cars got flip[ped and set on fire. Other than that is was a bunch of drunk kids out of control...but nothing like a "riot"
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jimotis4heisman;774794; said:
i see what your saying. i just dont know all the details from the time and forgot about the incident with woody so yea you are right. the texas game in 05 died off real fast. i thought initially that there was going to be mass destruction but after losing in such an impossibly chokerific way id have to say everybody was left in shock and wanted no part of it. typically lane avenue is bustling all the way through the night and on that night people just got smammered and went home. i remember mountains of cups and cans all over lane yet barely anybody really there around 2am which was unheard of. last years game was 1 vs 2 with us on the saddle and wanting revenge so all the emotion was rekindled and even more so. i know it turned out bad by what we are all working towards but givin the situation it wasnt too bad besides some fires that went on the overboard like the dumpsters or ones that involved destruction of property but out of the 40 or so fires that happened 35 of them were just isolated burnings in open areas with no real harm done. not that i think its right but its just something to denote.
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jimotis4heisman;774735; said:
Good point. But maybe apples and oranges? The Viet Nam war demonstrations were part of a larger social transition as the Boomers came of age.
Some of the 1960s and 1970s student riots can be traced to police over-reaction. Police brutality was an issue at times and police turned some protests into riots, after they attacked peaceful protesters who clearly were within their rights to demonstrate.
The hippies were probably responsible for 7 out of 10 episodes. Heck, I can remember people sitting on top of Taylor Tower throwing baggies full of excrement down on the cops below. If you're on the receiving end of that little flower, I don't think you feel overwhelmed by peace and love.
So, good point. We demonstrated and there were riots.
But where is the social issue behind the drunken riots at Ohio State after football games? I don't understand how these are comparable. I can't ever remember people pulling other folks couches off their porch and burning them during the Viet Nam war demonstrations.
We were naive and stupid back then, much of the time. All I know is that the riots at Ohio State have really hurt the image of the University and Columbus.
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BUCKYLE;774836; said:
hmmm i dont think he is using it as an excuse but i see what he is saying about the time period being messed up. students had more freedom to do as they pleased and during the vietnam period there was probably a high increase of college students that kind of changed the pace of things. i see what your saying but the war is kind of an outside factor causing increased violence ala kent state.
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