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Anyone who believes - with all the money involved, the pressure to compete, and the importance of talent to success - that this is not going on at most major programs (perhaps even the one in Columbus) is naive.
I am not saying it is anything like what happened at SMU, or that it is organized or widespread - but it is there.
What I found interesting in the program was that even 25 years later no other players were stepping forward and saying "Yeah, me too". These guys are as tight lipped as crooked cops. The entire theme of the program was not that SMU got punished for cheating, but for cheating poorly and flagrantly. As widespread as it occurred it was stated in the program that SMU would probably not have gone down if Stanley had not come forward.
Deny, deny, deny and the NCAA can do nothing.
And in the end the NCAA doesn't want to hear it either.
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It was good, but I still think The Two Escobars has been the best one in the series.osugrad21;1832592; said:
One of the things people forget when they parrot, "The Death Penalty set SMU back 25 years," is that SMU wasn't really that competitive (since WWII) in the SWC until they started cheating, they still only have an undergrad enrollment of ~6,000, and they didn't make any great head coaching hires until June Jones two years ago. Change any one of those three factors and things probably could've turned around a lot quicker.
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fuck you, Craig James.
unbelievable how those players can sit there after the fact and say things like "you (the players) had nothin' to do with it."
fuck you, and fuck Eric Dickerson too.
unbelievable how those players can sit there after the fact and say things like "you (the players) had nothin' to do with it."
fuck you, and fuck Eric Dickerson too.
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GeorgiaBuck2
Buckeye For Life
I like the fact towards the beginning of it that they were all laughing about it and it almost seemed like they were bragging about it.
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it made me think of an interesting question.
back in the day, the NCAA would hand out TV bans.
in today's world with just about every game on TV, would the NCAA ever drop a TV ban on someone again?
there is a LOT of money tied up in TV deals.
how would fans of team A react to not getting to watch their game because team B paid $200K+ for a quarterback?
back in the day, the NCAA would hand out TV bans.
in today's world with just about every game on TV, would the NCAA ever drop a TV ban on someone again?
there is a LOT of money tied up in TV deals.
how would fans of team A react to not getting to watch their game because team B paid $200K+ for a quarterback?
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Buckeye Maniac
Legend
Nutriaitch;1832624; said:
I bet now they'd just make team B give all of their TV revenue from the banned games to either team A or the NCAA.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I thought it was pretty good, particularly when compared to that vapid puff piece on Da U. I also found the argument as to how the ongoing newspaper war in Dallas really turned the heat up on the program in ways that would not have happened elsewhere. Very enlightening.
Any idea on who the three non-SWC schools that voted against the repeat offender rule were?
Any idea on who the three non-SWC schools that voted against the repeat offender rule were?
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jimotis4heisman
Banned
it wasnt bad. but i really wonder about the "facts"
you know the real specific stuff, like what color were the helmet stickers etc. id love to see this thing fact checked by the blogosphere...
you know the real specific stuff, like what color were the helmet stickers etc. id love to see this thing fact checked by the blogosphere...
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scott91575
Resident hater
The Greatest that Never Was is another good one about recruiting at that time, and how much Marcus Dupree got offered.
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