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PG Mike Conley (1st Team All BIG, NBA All-Star, Oscar Winner, Minnesota Timberwolves)

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From my understanding of things, the Bucks won't be "completley" cleared of everything until around November when the NCAA lays out its ruling. Conley / Oden won't wait that long for sure, so I guess I'm just wondering what exactly they are waiting on if no "official" word of our being clean will come out until this winter? To spin the bottle one could argue if Oden and Conley wanted to be Buckeyes so much then why not pull the trigger anyways if they're going to announce before the NCAA lays out its ruling? What could they be given as evidence that tOSU is clean? I guess I'm just kind of a little lost when it comes to this aspect of them waiting on committing...

Anyways, though, I'm definitley not worried or trying to creat a 'sky is falling' type of post, but the recent article got me wondering about this a little. Again not worried, but wondering...

Can anyone clean this up for me?
 
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From my understanding of things, the Bucks won't be "completley" cleared of everything until around November when the NCAA lays out its ruling. Conley / Oden won't wait that long for sure, so I guess I'm just wondering what exactly they are waiting on if no "official" word of our being clean will come out until this winter? To spin the bottle one could argue if Oden and Conley wanted to be Buckeyes so much then why not pull the trigger anyways if they're going to announce before the NCAA lays out its ruling? What could they be given as evidence that tOSU is clean? I guess I'm just kind of a little lost when it comes to this aspect of them waiting on committing...

Anyways, though, I'm definitley not worried or trying to creat a 'sky is falling' type of post, but the recent article got me wondering about this a little. Again not worried, but wondering...

Can anyone clean this up for me?
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if wake is #1 along with OSU, why dont they verbal to wake......an OSU without the posibility of probation. It's more telling that they haven't committed to wake than osu.
 
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From my understanding of things, the Bucks won't be "completley" cleared of everything until around November when the NCAA lays out its ruling. Conley / Oden won't wait that long for sure, so I guess I'm just wondering what exactly they are waiting on if no "official" word of our being clean will come out until this winter? To spin the bottle one could argue if Oden and Conley wanted to be Buckeyes so much then why not pull the trigger anyways if they're going to announce before the NCAA lays out its ruling? What could they be given as evidence that tOSU is clean? I guess I'm just kind of a little lost when it comes to this aspect of them waiting on committing...

Anyways, though, I'm definitley not worried or trying to creat a 'sky is falling' type of post, but the recent article got me wondering about this a little. Again not worried, but wondering...

Can anyone clean this up for me?
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The scenario I have been told will be that OSU will send their response to the NCAA within thirty days and then the NCAA infractions committee will decide if any sanctions are warrented. The infractions committee is scheduled to meet in September and they usually take about thirty days for a decision.

I don't think Conley and Oden are just waiting on the OSU situation but also the NBA, in the aspect of they want to know how long they may have to be at the school they choose, thats my guess, because both have said college is their focus right now.

if wake is #1 along with OSU, why dont they verbal to wake......an OSU without the posibility of probation. It's more telling that they haven't committed to wake than osu.
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Your exactly right in the respect.....its obvious that OSU is the clear leader but they want to ensure that the NCAA will not hand down further sanctions. The longer this takes, the better for OSU.
 
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I'm still lost, again what can tOSU show Conley / Oden to show that their clean? How will Conley and Oden be able to make a decision 'soon' if they have no word on if our team is clean, if that is something they are truely waiting to hear about.

Again I don't believe this type of thinking that I'm questioning about, but it has me pretty confused.
 
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Most of us online decided that they would decide soon after their OSU visit due to the momentum OSU had... yet that was not based on anything they said. They clearly loved OSU coming into the visit, but they never promised to decide right away.

Now with the potential problems at OSU, they have delayed their decision. They will probably decide long before the punishment is handed down, but it should be fairly easy to prove that OSU is not going to get two more years of probation when other schools guilty of worse crimes only received one (which we already served probably).

Most likely they are just not ready to make a decision and/or will not have to hear about it from the locals when they choose not to go to IU.
 
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I think that they believe that if there are any sanctions that it most likely would not affect their class, as Conley really seems to be be favoring OSU from the reports, I also think they're really set on playing together by now and the only thing probably holding them back is the nba situation.
Another possibility I have thought might happen, is that they might verbal to OSU and then sign late after they know everthing thats going on with the nba and OSU.
 
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Thanks for the clearup guys. I think Marvy may be onto something about signing late.

Anyways though hopefully they become Bucks in the end, it certaintly still looks as promising as it did back when we first emerged as a real player in their recruitment.
 
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Oden was recently asked by the Wake site about the investigation surrounding Ohio State and he basically said he has been aware of that going in and its not an issue. Basically saying Ohio State had already served their punishment.


You can read between the lines if you want, but I have to believe they are set on OSU, they just want to make sure the timing of their announcement is right.
 
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6/10/05

From the Wake site...Conley says he will likely decide by July 1st. According to the Wake writer, "many" thought that the NCAA investigation into OSU would lead to Conley committing to Wake, but Mike insists that both schools are equal.

The Wakesters are gasping for air right now...the only positive this guy could spin on this article was rehashing the crap about the investigation, which is something that we all know will probably not affect Conley during his time at OSU.
 
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6/10/05

From the Wake site...Conley says he will likely decide by July 1st. According to the Wake writer, "many" thought that the NCAA investigation into OSU would lead to Conley committing to Wake, but Mike insists that both schools are equal.

The Wakesters are gasping for air right now...the only positive this guy could spin on this article was rehashing the crap about the investigation, which is something that we all know will probably not affect Conley during his time at OSU.
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yes, it was a desperate sounding article. the fact that the article from the wake site could not put any positive spin for the Deacs makes it hard to believe that they have an advantage.

The fact that oden and conley are coming to columbus very soon for a team camp makes osu look like the favorite at this point.
 
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"It was a great team effort," said USA White head coach Pat Fitterer (Eisenhower H.S. / Seattle, Wash.). "Javaris was huge tonight, he came in and gave us a great spark. We didn't adjust the to officiating very well and Greg (Oden) got out of it early. You don't always get what you want but tonight we finally adjusted and got the job done."

Darrell Arthur (South Oak Cliff H.S. / Dallas, Texas) opened the scoring with a jumper 48 seconds into the game but Russia stayed close and took the lead on a three-point play by Maxim Sheleketo. The Russians fought for second-chance baskets, continued to build their lead thanks to six first quarter offensive rebounds, and earned their biggest lead, 24-17, on a Konstantin Berkov jumper with 2:25 left in the first. The U.S. closed the gap and Crittenton hit one of two free throws 3.9 seconds left in the period to cut Russia's lead to three (28-25) at the break.

Reynolds found Greg Oden (Lawrence North H.S. / Indianapolis, Ind.) for a layup after Paul Harris (Niagara Falls H.S. / Niagara Falls, N.Y.) stole the inbound pass 18 seconds into the second quarter to cut the Russian advantage to two, 27-29. Oden grabbed an offensive rebound and tied the game with a basket at the 8:06 mark and the teams were knotted at 29-29.

Two free throws by Singler gave the Americans their first lead, 31-30, since the 6:50 mark in the first frame. Russia tied the score on the following possession but Harris hit two free throws to put USA White ahead 35-33, a lead it never relinquished.

After a turnaround jumper from Artem Yakovenko brought Russia within one, 38-37, the White Team reeled off seven straight points, capped by a Scottie Reynolds (Herndon H.S. / Herndon, Va.) layup from his back court steal to up the American advantage to 45-37 at 5:00 left in the half.

"We didn't play our best in the first quarter so I just tried to come out and play with my all and pump my team up," said Crittenton, who had 12 points before the break. "There are a lot of great players on our team so we have to be very unselfish and play our best."

Another 7-0 run, which included five points from Michael Conley (Lawrence North H.S. / Indianapolis, Ind.), gave USA White a double-digit cushion, 51-41, with 3:18 remaining in the half. The Americans entered the locker room with a comfortable 56-43 lead after outscoring Russia 31-15 in the second quarter in large part to 87.7 percent (20-23 FTs) from the foul line in the half.

Singler and Crittenton scored 14 of the White Team's first 18 second half points to give the Americans a 22 point lead, 74-52, with 4:24 gone in the third. Russia never got closer that 16 points and the Americans eased into the gold medal game with a 19-point final margin.

"I'm really excited (about playing for a gold medal)," said Fitterer. "The kids are really excited. They've come here and earned the right, they've worked hard done everything we've asked and earned the right to play for a gold medal."

"I always watched the NBA players (play for a gold medal)," said Crittenton. "It's great now that I'm in the situation. I know we're going to take it."

USA White received a game-high 21 points from Crittenton. Harris posted a double-double with 12 points and 14 boards and added five assists and Singler notched 19 points on 5-of-6 field goal and 6-of-8 free throw shooting. Oden, despite playing only eight first half minutes due to foul trouble, scored 12, Arthur added 10 and Reynolds nabbed a game-high four steals.

Sheleketo led Russia with 19 points. Igor Smyghin scored 15, Anatoly Kashirov added 13 and Yakovenko had 10.
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June 11, 2005


USA Basketball Youth Development Festival notebook
Oden's teammates show they can win on his off night
Fouls slow 7-foot Lawrence North star, but USA White guards lead team to title game.
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SAN DIEGO -- Greg Oden and his teammates have yet to face a team they can't dominate.

Through their first three games at the USA Basketball Youth Development Festival, their superiority inside was the decisive factor.

In Friday's semifinal against a Russian team with a front line that included 6-10, 6-10 and 7-2 players, the USA White squad leaned on its perimeter players.

Guard Javaris Crittenton of Atlanta scored a game-high 21 points, and forward Paul Harris from Niagara Falls, N.Y., added 12 points and five assists in a 105-86 victory. Mike Conley of Lawrence North added nine points and three assists in 18 minutes and teamed with Crittenton to spark a pressure attack.

The USA White squad is 4-0, winning by an average of 34.5 points. White plays at 10 tonight in the gold medal game against the USA Blue, led by O.J. Mayo. Blue beat USA Red 96-74 in the other semifinal.

"We just tried to match up well with them, but they can dribble and take it to the hole," said Oden, who had 12 points and three rebounds in 18 foul-plagued minutes. "Our big guys were in foul trouble, so there wasn't that much we could do."

Forward Kyle Singler of Oregon, a strong spot-up shooter, added 19 points, hitting 3-of-4 from behind the 3-point arc.

USA White's starting front line of 7-foot Oden, the national Player of the Year from Lawrence North, 6-6 Bill Walker of Cincinnati and 6-9 Darrell Arthur of Dallas each were called for three fouls in the first half.

The Russians shot 10-for-27 from 3-point range. Maxim Sheleketo, a 6-10 forward, scored 19 points to lead four Russians in double figures.

"They have one of those Peja Stojakovic-like shots," Oden said. "No matter how close you are, it's going off in a half second. . . . It's hard to defend."

The game was close for most of the first half. USA White finally went up by 20 midway through the third quarter when Oden posted up against 6-9 Artem Yakovenko and Sheleketo on the left block and spun around them for a dunk, drawing a foul.

Early in the third quarter, Oden appeared to block a shot from Sheleketo but was called for a foul by official Zhou Jiangan.

"You're taking away the best player in the country," USA White coach Pat Fitterer barked at Zhou. "He's played about six minutes because of you."

Russian looks to be drafted

Yaroslav Korolev, considered the best player on the Russian squad here this week, said Friday he hopes to be drafted by an NBA team. He hasn't played at the festival amid rumors an unnamed NBA team has promised to draft him in the first round.

Korolev, the 18-year-old son of Russian coach Igor Korolev, is listed as a 6-11, 202-pound forward. He said Friday he wasn't playing because of a sore knee.

Korolev, who has an agent, Marc Fleisher, wouldn't confirm he has a deal to be drafted.

"I hope, of course," Korolev said. "I want to be there. I'm very, very excited. I'll get all the chances I can to be there."

Even if he is drafted, he could play in Europe before joining an NBA team. "I don't know what we'll do," he said. "We have to decide, me and my agent."

Korolev is reported to be an outstanding shooter and passer, in the mold of Milwaukee Bucks forward Toni Kukoc.

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The USA White team captured gold at the 2005 International Sports Invitational, defeating USA Blue by a 107-85 final, despite a game-high 31 points by Blue's O.J. Mayo (North College Hill H.S. / North College Hill, Ohio).

USA White was able to pull away in the second half, outscoring Blue 31-19 in the fourth quarter as foul trouble kept Blue big men, Robin Lopez (San Joaquin Memorial H.S./Fresno, Calif.), Mike Washington (Heritage Christian Academy (Texas)/McGehee, Ark.) and Dwayne Collins (Miami Senior H.S./Miami, Fla.) on the bench for much of the second half.

The two teams battled back and forth in the first quarter and the game was tied at 23 with 23 seconds left, after Mayo scored 15 out of 16 straight points for the USA Blue team. Two free throws by Bryce Webster (St. Thomas Academy/St. Paul, Minn.) gave the White squad a slim 25-23 lead after one.

White pulled ahead by six points, 40-34 with 5:33 left in the half ,before Blue began a 7-2 run capped by a Mayo jumper at the 4:03 mark to cut the lead to one, 42-41. But, a cut above his right eye with just over three minutes remaining in the second quarter forced Mayo to head into the locker room early. USA White capitalized, outscoring Blue 15-5 over the remainder of the quarter to take a 58-46 lead at halftime.

Coming out of the locker room, the Blue squad inched closer, 76-66, after the third quarter. However, the fourth quarter belonged to USA White. With an 11-point cushion, 82-71 with 7:44 left in the game, White began a 15-3 run, that included five dunks by four different players and gave them a 97-74 lead, sealing the victory with 4:09 left in the game. From that point the teams exchanged buckets, and USA White walked away with a 107-85 victory.

"It was really exciting," said White head coach Pat Fitterer (Eisenhower H.S./Seattle, Wash.). I'm most excited because we had 29 assists tonight, that was awesome. This is the most unselfish crew I've ever had. Greg Oden thanked everybody for letting him be a part of the team and everybody else was just awesome, they had a great team concept. I told them now I want them to go out and win a couple more gold medals for USA."

Three players scored in double figures for USA White, including 28 points (11-22 FGs) from Paul Harris (Niagara Falls H.S./Niagara Falls, N.Y.). Center Greg Oden (Lawrence North H.S. . Indianapolis, Ind.) and forward Bill Walker (North College Hill H.S. / Cincinnati, Ohio), aided by the foul trouble of the Blue squad, chipped in 21 and 18, respectively, and Oden pulled down 11 rebounds. Five players also dished out at least five assists. Oden also broke the USA Youth Development Festival record for field-goal percentage, shooting 74.4 percent (32-43 FGs) in the tournament.
"This feels good," said Harris. "I told my dad, ‘If I win, I'm giving you the gold medal,' so I'm going to give it to my dad."

Mayo and Wayne Ellington (The Episcopal Academy/Wynnewood, Penn.) shouldered the load for USA Blue. In addition to 31 points (11-24 FGs), Mayo also tallied six rebounds and seven steals. Ellington finished the game with 27 points (11-23 FGs) and a game-high 12 rebounds.

"I know O.J. (Mayo) is a good player so I tried to play full court on him and set a lot of picks." added Harris. " I tried to contain him but he's very good."

Mayo finished as the high-scorer for the tournament, averaging 27.5 points per game.

USA Blue Team member Thaddeus Young (Mitchell H.S. / Memphis, Tenn.) suffered a second degree (moderate) ankle sprain in his squad's 118-57 victory over New Zealand on June 8. Listed as day-to-day, Young was evaluated and treated by the U.S. Olympic Committee medical staff..

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Conley had 6 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals in the win in just 19 minutes of action.

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