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Looks like the heat is starting to get turned up on Davis at IU.Hoosiers miss out again on in-state talent
Lawrence North's Oden, Conley choose Ohio State, not IU; some fans don't like recent trend.
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By Terry Hutchens
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If a 42-42 record over the past 84 games and two consecutive seasons without an NCAA Tournament bid weren't bad enough for Indiana University basketball coach Mike Davis, now comes a threat to his reputation as being a top recruiter.
One day after The Star reported Lawrence North's Greg Oden will attend Ohio State in 2006, IU basketball fans expressed their displeasure at how another in-state star slipped away.
In the past few years, Bloomington North's Sean May (North Carolina), Carmel's Josh McRoberts (Duke), Washington's Luke Zeller (Notre Dame) and Richmond's Dominic James (Marquette) have chosen schools other than IU. Oden and Lawrence North teammate Mike Conley Jr. are expected to join that list. With the exception of the Class of 2004 that included A.J. Ratliff, Robert Vaden and James Hardy, IU has missed out on more in-state players than it has landed.
"I think this is one of those time periods in Indiana hoops when we have five or six amazing players all at the same time, and now it looks like we're not going to get any of them," said Mark Swearingen, a 1995 IU graduate from Mooresville, Ind. "Oden was just the icing on the cake. I just think this miss makes a lot of IU fans ask themselves what is wrong with our state of recruiting.
"I've always found myself defending Mike Davis by saying he's a great recruiter and he brings all of these great players in. But when they're on our backdoor step and we're not getting them, it just makes you wonder what the problem may be."
When former Indiana Mr. Basketball and IU standout Pat Graham heard the news as he drove home from work Friday afternoon, he said he was "floored."
At the same time, he remembered how the Hoosiers lost a good 7-foot center from Lawrence North in his recruiting class of 1989 -- Eric Montross.
"Eric Montross and I were very good friends, and his decision just about killed us. We couldn't believe it," Graham said. "But I was close to him and he told me one day, 'I've got to do what's best for me.' And he went (to North Carolina) and won a national championship.
"I've got to be honest, if I could have traded spots with him and won a national championship, I would have done just that."
Oden and Conley did not confirm The Star's report Friday. Oden didn't return two calls, and Conley said they won't comment until a formal announcement is made.
Graham said he wasn't surprised to see them select the same school. He said when he and six recruits attended IU to form the Class of 1989, they went there because they wanted to play together. That class also included all-time IU leading scorer Calbert Cheaney and Lawrence Funderburke.
"I think everyone thought we all went to IU because of Bob Knight, but that wasn't it at all," Graham said. "We went there because we played together almost every summer, we enjoyed each other and we thought this was the best chance to win.
"I think a lot of times today's athletes are different. They're looking at going to a place for a year or two and using it as a steppingstone. No one wishes Greg Oden would have chosen Indiana as that place more than me, but sometimes it doesn't work out that way."
Graham said that like Montross, he expects Oden will hear negative reaction about leaving his home state. May did when he selected North Carolina.
"It's not 'you're from Indiana, so you should go to Indiana.' I don't buy into that," Graham said. "Every kid has his choice and he has to live with that choice."
Most IU fans interviewed said basically the same thing. Upon hearing the news, they felt as if someone had punched them in the stomach.
"It's disappointing because he's been up in Indianapolis and we've known about him for a long time, and we all had visions of D.J. White and Greg Oden playing side by side, and now it doesn't look like it's going to happen," said Kevin Hanlon, a 21-year-old IU senior who lives on the Southside of Indianapolis.
College bound
Lawrence North's Greg Oden and Mike Conley Jr. plan to attend Ohio State. Here is a sample of where some of the state's top basketball recruits have gone to college:
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Call Star reporter Terry Hutchens at (317) 444-6469.
Greg Oden and Mike Conley will reveal Wednesday where they plan to play college basketball. A few prospective teammates are pretty sure they already know it’s Ohio State.
Thaddeus Young, a 6-foot-8 forward from Memphis, Tenn., yesterday told a source who spoke to The Dispatch on the condition of anonymity that he received a cell-phone text message from an Ohio State coach saying Oden and Conley have chosen the Buckeyes.
The source spoke to Young — who, like Oden, is one of the top 10 players in the class of 2006 — at the NBA players association Top 100 Camp in Richmond, Va.
Bryce Webster, a 6-10 forward from Mendota Heights, Minn., told the same source that Oden and Conley were trying to persuade Webster and others to join them at Ohio State during the recent USA Youth Development Festival in San Diego.
Eric Gordon, a 6-3 guard from Indianapolis who is one of the top prospects in the class of 2007 and plays on the same AAU team as Oden and Conley, said in the Indianapolis Star yesterday, "We’ve pretty much known they were going (to Ohio State) for a while now."
Conley’s father, Mike Conley Sr., a former Olympic gold medalist in the triple jump, said yesterday that his son, a 6-1 point guard, and Oden, who is 7 feet, will announce their decisions at a news conference at 1 p.m. Wednesday at Lawrence North High School near Indianapolis.
Conley Sr., who coaches the Spiece Indy Heat AAU team his son and Oden play for, said neither of them, nor anyone speaking on their behalf, has informed the coaches of the schools recruiting them what their decision is.
"But they’ve been telling their friends" they’re going to Ohio State, a source at one of the schools said.
And Al Powell, an Indy Heat assistant coach, told The Dispatch on Friday that he was "99.9 percent (sure) they’re going to be Buckeyes before June or July is over."
Conley Jr. has said he will choose between Ohio State and Wake Forest. Oden has listed four finalists: Ohio State, Wake Forest, Indiana and Michigan State.
It has long been assumed that Conley and Oden will play together in college. Conley Sr. said it is possible but not likely they could commit to different schools.
By choosing Ohio State, they would join AAU teammate Daequan Cook of Dayton Dunbar, who committed to the Buckeyes in March, and David Lighty of Cleveland Villa Angela-St. Joseph, who did so in April. The four would be able to sign binding national letters of intent in November.
Recruiting analyst Bob Gibbons ranks Oden first, Cook sixth, Lighty 12 th and Conley 20 th in the class of 2006. He has said it would be the best class Ohio State has attracted since he began rating recruits in 1978 and that "it would compare with one of the all-time great classes, the Fab Five," at Michigan in 1991. That class included future NBA players Chris Webber, Jalen Rose and Juwan Howard and reached the NCAA championship game in 1992 and 1993 before Webber left for the NBA after his sophomore season.
Before the NBA last week changed its early-entry rule to require high-school graduates to wait a year before entering the draft, Oden was projected as the No. 1 choice next year.
Conley Sr. said his son and Oden, if they choose Ohio State, do not fear probable NCAA sanctions against the program affecting their careers. The NCAA, which announced the findings of its investigation in May, is expected to announce penalties against the program in the fall, but Ohio State already has taken preemptive measures by firing former coach Jim O’Brien in June 2004 and declaring the 2004-05 team ineligible for postseason play.
"They feel that by the time they get to school there, there may very well be some sanctions in place but they won’t be much," Conley Sr. said. "The only sanction that could affect them would be a postseason ban in ’07, and they feel it’s not going to come to that."
June 26, 2005
Oden, Conley set to announce college choice
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By Jeff Rabjohns
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Lawrence North teammates Greg Oden and Mike Conley plan to announce their college choice at a joint news conference at 1 p.m. Wednesday at their high school.
The Star has reported the choice will be Ohio State, but Conley said Friday the players will not make any public statements until the formal announcement.
Oden, at the Indiana-Kentucky All-Star Game at Conseco Fieldhouse on Saturday night, said he had no comment.
Oden this past year joined NBA star LeBron James as the only players to be named National High School Player of the Year as juniors.
Conley is one of the top-ranked point guards in the nation.
The duo led Lawrence North to a second consecutive Class 4A state title this past season.
Oden, a 7-foot, 245-pound center, averaged 20 points, 9.6 rebounds and 3.7 blocked shots. Conley, a 6-1 point guard, averaged 10.7 points and five assists.
I agree....in the next few days I will be posting a thread on the direction of the OSU basketball program that takes a look at where we are and where we are headed.....This stuff is all so great! For the ones of us that have been following OSU basketball recruiting as much as football, it makes the Malik Hairston days seem hilarious.