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    • This is the kind of shit that reminds me why I quit umpiring kids' games. :shake:

    It's this past May's Minnesota College Athletic Conference state tourney, and Central Lakes College is tied with Rochester, 0-0, bottom of the seventh and final inning. Central Lakes pitcher Olivia Graham has her first no-hitter going. Now, with Central Lakes at bat, she just has to hope her team can score a run to lock it up.

    Sure enough, Central's freshman first baseman, Ashly Erickson, rips one over the fence. Game over. Madness erupts. As Erickson and her cantaloupe smile round third, some teammates high-five her. It's the greatest moment in her short softball life.

    But when she touches the plate, the Rochester players begin shouting, "That's an out! She's out!" Then Rochester coach Jean Musgjerd helpfully tells the ump that Erickson should be out since, according to the rules, teammates aren't allowed to "touch a batter or baserunner legally running the bases."
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    It gets better.

    The head ump for the tournament listened, shrugged and said, "Batter's out."

    It was a walk-off-walk-back-on homer -- the first game ever lost by congratulations.

    Erickson was crushed. "I thought, How can that not count? I hit it over the fence!"

    So you can guess the rest. Graham lost her no-no in the ninth and Rochester won, 4-0. Musgjerd's integrity was in the Dumpster, but hey, her record improved. She didn't return my calls but did tell the Minneapolis Star Tribune: "You don't want to win in that way, but you have to play by the rules."
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    :roll1:

    Worse, the Rochester players yelling "That's an out!" as soon as Erickson crossed the plate suggests the move was a stink bomb Musgjerd had been saving in her purse, ready to throw in the middle of somebody's parade. Who thinks that small?
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    BTW, the stupid ump got the call wrong. It's only a warning the first time, not an out.

    Life of Reilly: The softball coach with no heart - ESPN
     
    Deadspin - Walk Off Homer Disallowed By Premature Hand Slapping - Softball home run called back on celebration rule

    Another link....

    BTW the Ump's ruling would have been correct in Little League and that's about it. even in the MLB they realize that celebrations during a home run don't matter very much, especially in a walk-off situation. The important thing is did she touch home plate.

    As for the coach, yes this is the EXACT reason I quit umpiring too. Coaches like this woman and the idiot parents that come with it aren't worth the time or trouble.
     
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    3074326 said:
    Can't wait for someone to come in and defend the other coach, because you know it's going to happen.

    Pretty stupid.
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    Conversely...(elsewhere in the story)

    Remember what transpired just over a year ago in women's softball? A Western Oregon player hit a home run but, in her jubilation, ripped her knee touching first. Nobody knew what to do. Because of this stupid rule, her teammates and coaches couldn't help her round the bases. And that's when two kids on the other team -- Central Washington -- decided to carry her around the bases. Imagine that: sportsmanship.
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    As was often the case when I umped, the kids had more sense and decorum than the adults.
     
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    Some coaches and parents are so into the game that common sense and decorum go out the window. When I was in college I umpired during my break in the summer. During one game (I think the players were 10-12 in age) while I was behind the plate a pitcher went into his wind-up and just collapsed. I immediately called "time" and ran out to check on the kid, while all the time the opposing coach was screaming that it was a "balk."

    Now here is a kid who is unconscious and I didn't have a clue about his medical condition and the damn ass is yelling for his balk (which is this case is just a ball call since no one was on base.) Long story short a nurse came out of the stands and administered aid to the kid while an ambulance was called. The kid was transported to the hospital were it turned out he had a "heart murmur." The kid was fine, I corrected the call and the coach to my dismay never apologized for his behavior. When a game is more important than a person's life it is time to either find another game or quit entirely because you have lost all focus.....
     
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    Wingate1217;1486889; said:
    Some coaches and parents are so into the game that common sense and decorum go out the window. When I was in college I umpired during my break in the summer. During one game (I think the players were 10-12 in age) while I was behind the plate a pitcher went into his wind-up and just collapsed. I immediately called "time" and ran out to check on the kid, while all the time the opposing coach was screaming that it was a "balk."

    Now here is a kid who is unconscious and I didn't have a clue about his medical condition and the damn ass is yelling for his balk (which is this case is just a ball call since no one was on base.) Long story short a nurse came out of the stands and administered aid to the kid while an ambulance was called. The kid was transported to the hospital were it turned out he had a "heart murmur." The kid was fine, I corrected the call and the coach to my dismay never apologized for his behavior. When a game is more important than a person's life it is time to either find another game or quit entirely because you have lost all focus.....
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    Should have tossed the coach or punched him or threw a pitch at him
     
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    Most of this is in reply to Wingate's post...

    I umpired when I was about 12-16 (I also played baseball...pretty easy to play a game and while at the park umpire one and pick up some easy cash). I think I was 13 at the time when the following happened....

    I umpired a game with 10 or 11 years olds. Needless to say they were pretty bad. I learned from my year before that a real strikezone was a waste of time. With a real strike zone walks just pile up and the game lasts 3 hours (then other games back up). So I had a pretty wide strike zone. Well, some jackass stands right behing the backstop fence and decides to critisize every call. At this time I was still pretty leary about throwing people out. After a while I finally warn the team if they do not control the guy I will throw him out. Well, the coach pretty much does nothing, and I have to tell the guy myself. He gets all ticked off and the rest of the fans start screaming at me (mind you I am about 13, and the only one who will umpire these games....mostly because of these idiots). After the game is over I start walking home, and this idiot comes up to me and starts threatening to kick my ass. All the other adults were behind him too, backing him up. So not only is it a whole crown of adults, but they were threatening a 13 year old over a little league game. I walked away, and they didn't do anything. Yet kept yelling at me while I walked home.

    That is not the only time this sort of stuff happened (although nothing quite that bad). I quickly learned to have a quick hook. As I grew up, I gave a friendly warning. If they even spoke one work in anger to me after that....gone. See ya. If they got mad and tried to stick around, I threatened to forfeit the game if they did not leave immediately. Essentially I would say "You have 1 minute to get to the parking lot or I am calling the game." It was beautiful watching some idoit sitting on the hood of his car watching the game from the parking lot.

    Anyway, how some adults act at Little League games is simply amazing. Even to this day I ponder going to Little League games to finally face these type of idiots now that I am grown up. I am pretty sure most would shut their trap pretty quick. Yet that would be just as bad, so I let it pass.

    BTW... on a story closer to the one in the article. We were playing a game against a team whose manager was the head of umpires (I think we were about 15 at the time). We score a run to tie the game. The play at the plate was sort of close, but he was clearly safe and the umpire called it that way. Well, the other coach has a meeting at the mound and calls over the umpire. Next thing we know the umpire turns around and gives the out call. No explanation. Nothing. Just changes the call. Pretty clear the other manager threatened to fire him (or reduce his number of games) to get him to change the call. The guy who was umpiring was even sort of a friend of mine since I umpired with him often. He never even gave me an explanation when I asked him. Yet I knew what happened...the head of umps and the other coach was a huge dbag and threatened him. Once I quit umpiring I told the head umpire he was the biggest jackass I ever met.

    All of this stuff still amazes me to this day.

    Of course this was all little league vs. community college softball, but to even have that type of attitude is common throughout sports. Some aholes will do anything to win, no matter what the level.
     
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    In the same way that a few fans can ruin a game, well...to be honest...I have seen some refs that should never be allowed to call a game again.

    I am apreciative of their efforts for the most part.

    BUT, there are guys that get off on the power and change the outcome of games. I have seen it over and over again. Not very often, but there are some absolute douche-nozzles, and they are happy about it. It happens at the rec levels more than any other. Some guy that thinks he is "the man" at a 10 years old girls BBall game. This is not just bad calls, it is an FU attitude, and thrives on pissing people off.

    Not so much at AAU or upper levels.

    It's worse than the guys in the stands IMO.

    I will admit that either is never acceptable.
     
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