Personal Opinion VS Personal Judgement

[PennState1985]

On behalf of Thump, let me just say that you are a homo.

So I am a queer because I don't like queer stuff? Where'd you learn that kinda shitty logic? That makes as much sense as saying Michigan could actually win a bowl game.

 

[PennState1985]

That doesn't fly.

Do that around most parts and you will more likely elicit one of three reactions

1 - What business is it of yours?
2 - Fuck Off Asshole
3 - Punch in the nose.


Only after you hit the floor. :tongue2:


You are not anyone's great aunt.

Actually, I've never lost a fight. But not too many people have been dumb enough to start a physical fight with me.

 

[OCBucksFan]

Actually, I've never lost a fight. But not too many people have been dumb enough to start a physical fight with me.

A tough guy eh?

 

[sandgk]

So I am a queer because I don't like queer stuff? Where'd you learn that kinda shitty logic? That makes as much sense as saying Michigan could actually win a bowl game.

What if a study could be found that correlated discomfort with homosexuality, or homophobia and the incidence of homosexual arousal among those expressing disgust or discomfort?

Like, say this:

Correlation of Homophobia and Homosexual Arousal

The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n=35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n=29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W.W. Hudson & W.A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A.H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.​

 

[sandgk]

Actually, I've never lost a fight. But not too many people have been dumb enough to start a physical fight with me.

This is probably because you've never been in one.

Besides which you have completely missed the point of what was written - not surprising really that you latched onto option number 3, instead of looking at all the likely responses.

 

[PennState1985]

From the looks of things and from the pm I sent you. Impressive deduction.


I'm not dissenting this. I'm objecting to the fact that you felt you needed to tell people your opinion in a thread that obviously was full of people that were already predisposed to have a dissenting opinion. That is either an incredibly arrogant action or a significant indication of "trollism." Perhaps I just fell for it but I am more inclined to believe you are just a rude jerk.

My opinion was dissenting, not theirs. On many other boards I've given a dissenting opinion, gotten the obligatory razzing, and that was it. It does you, nor the community here no good to act as if the majority of you are perfect little angels. This is the only board I've seen people throw a massive hissy fit over something trivial.

Apparently I need to repeat myself again. It was a thread that neither invited nor needed any "dissenting" opinion. It is an entertainment thread for those of us that enjoy girls kissing girls Those who don't enjoy it, don't go there. It's not in the political forums for that reason. It's not a discussion thread.

Things like that should be expected to have at least one of two negative comments. And I actually saw some discussion. After my second post, I then voluntarily dropped the subject so that you could continue to enjoy the thread. If I have an opinion, I'm not going to keep quiet about it just so that I don't hurt a few feelings. What amazes me is how you feel the need to defend that thread's "honor".

No, you did not direct your comments at any one specific person. You directed your comment at the entire thread. Look up implication. By implication, directing your comment at the thread and its contents, directs the comment at the people who are participating in the thread. You tried to give yourself an "out" by adding in the codicil of "but if that's what floats your boat.." but that is really just a way of saying "With all due respect,..." or "I have respect for you as a person but...."

Don't try to "analyze" or "interpert" what I said. Sometimes what people say actually has literal meaning. It was Sigmund Freud himself who said "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar". Accept it. I didn't like the thread, spoke my mind, and left so that you could continue to enjoy the thread.

Here's a question that perhaps might clarify things for you.

If girls kissing girls is disgusting to you, is a girl that likes to kiss other girls disgusting to you?


Don't cross contaminate.

Yes. But if that's really what she enjoys, then why does she need my approval?

I repeat myself because it seems to be required as you don't seem to be paying attention. You don't know me at all. You have no right, or foundation of knowledge to say that I have judged others or expressed disgust at something. You are making an assumption to try to validate your actions. That is usually the behavior of someone who is trying to justify to themselves why they have a right to be an ass. Value judgements are a part of life, but expressing them openly to those on whom you are passing judgement is not a part of life unless you are a self-righteous person who feels every individual in the world needs or wants to know what they think of someone. As you seem to do. Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean the person you have the opinion about wants to hear it. Keep it to yourself.

Repeating yourself is a way of saying "I don't have very much to say, but I'll say it over again, with different wording to make it look like I actually have a lot to say". It's called a soapbox. Get off the soapbox and go back to enjoying your girls-on-girls thread and quit worrying what the hell some guy you've never seen nor met thinks of it. Is it really that important?

If I have an opinion, I'm going to say it. I'm not going to keep silent just to appease the majority. Just imagine if people kept silent because the opinion might not be what everyone else wanted to hear. I don't care if you like my opinion or not. You can think my opinion is the shittiest thing to ever find itself on the web for all I care.

Repeating myself and wording it differently is an established method of active listening, which is a part of effective communication. As we do not have verbal communication available to us, it is a way to ensure clarity of thought in text.

Wrong. Text can be read over and over again. Verbal communication can only be heard once unless it is tape recorded or on some other medium to preserve it.

It does not, ipso facto, make the statement that is being reworded, false. It reestablishes and reaffirms the essential point. Your metaphor is false logic. If you were to simply state that you don't like a football team, and do not include any salient back up facts, you will indeed be implying that you don't like the fans.

I like Penn State. Many people here don't. Does that mean that people here hate me as a person because they hate the football team I cheer for? Likely not. Oftentimes people, best friends, spouses, family all like each other but hold different opinions. Just because someone dislikes something that someone likes does not mean they dislike the person who likes that.

Walk into any rival college and, without actually saying why, simply state, "Such and Such (insert any team name) sucks!" and I have a strong feeling you will immediately receive fast and strong negative reaction.

It's by people who feel the need to defend the honor of their team. But why would you feel the need to defend the "honor" of an internet thread?

So because you do not want to read an entire post, but feel firmly that your opinion is popular, it must mean that it is supported? And you say I have false logic.

I read your entire post. How else would I have been able to say "you repeat yourself nonstop. I don't know where you got that from.

So, if you were kissing your girlfriend on the street, and someone walked up to you and told you they were disgusted by it, out of the blue, for no reason at all, you wouldn't be offended? I don't know you but I find it very hard to believe you would be calm.

Another bad analogy. You didn't post a picture of YOURSELF kissing someone, these are pictures of random people.

You were in the red before you started that thread. I checked, its why I made the comment about rubies. You got back into the green so people could make you red again.

What's the fun in that? Wouldn't it have been more fun to see how many red dots you could pile on?

Since you still seem to be completely oblivious as to why I might be upset, let me restate and reword and repeat my salient fact. NO ONE ASKED FOR YOU OPINION ABOUT GIRLS KISSING GIRLS. No one wanted your opinion about girls kissing girls. You dont like it fine, shut the F up and let those of us that DO like it, enjoy it without having to listen your useless jabbering.

Whenever I have an opinion, I give it. I don't give a flying fuck if I'm asked. If you don't like my opinion and don't want to listen to it, then just IGNORE IT. If you really want to show that what you think I have to say is worthless then DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE IT! Apparently this was more than just "useless jabbering" to you or else you won't be throwing a tantrum about it.

 

[PennState1985]

This is probably because you've never been in one.

Besides which you have completely missed the point of what was written - not surprising really that you latched onto option number 3, instead of looking at all the likely responses.

Wrong! I've been in a fair share of physical confrontations. They usually ended with the other guy running for his life from me than him laying on the ground.

 

[PennState1985]

What if a study could be found that correlated discomfort with homosexuality, or homophobia and the incidence of homosexual arousal among those expressing disgust or discomfort?

Like, say this:

Correlation of Homophobia and Homosexual Arousal

You can prove whatever you want statistics. You can prove that people who hate pedophiles are closet child molesters.

 

[PennState1985]

Wow. Just Wow. I just realized that this thread is completely useless. If you have EVER done what you just stated, and see absolutely no problem with your actions, anything at all that I say or could say is going to make no difference at all. I cannot think of any more naive and arrogant statement than the "hypothetical" situation and its possible ending that you posit above.

I don't think you have ever done this but I want to dare you, right now, to do so. Then come back here, and honestly state what happened. Don't qualify your statement, don't back pedal that strong opinion you gave us in the girls kissing girls thread.


Disclaimer: Just because I dared you makes me in no way responsible for any bodily harm or injury that might result from your incredibly idiotic decision to "prove me wrong" and actually DO THIS.

I've voiced opposition to someone's preferences before. To what I'm sure is your surprise, nothing happened except their disgusted, annoyed look. It was over a TV show, but I forget what TV show it was.

 

[sandgk]

I've voiced opposition to someone's preferences before. To what I'm sure is your surprise, nothing happened except their disgusted, annoyed look. It was over a TV show, but I forget what TV show it was.

Did it have girls kissing girls in it?

 

[OCBuckWife]

I've voiced opposition to someone's preferences before. To what I'm sure is your surprise, nothing happened except their disgusted, annoyed look. It was over a TV show, but I forget what TV show it was.

You are seriously comparing telling someone that you don't like the same television showas they do to telling someone that their sexual preferences disgust you?

You are either one of the densest people alive or you are just a

 

[Gatorubet]

 

[PlanetFrnd]

That makes as much sense as saying Michigan could actually win a bowl game.

I know, I know - its like winning a football game 9-7... impossible!

Actually, I've never lost a fight. But not too many people have been dumb enough to start a physical fight with me.

It could be that you just need to let out a little extra aggression... here you go:

Perfect for the little repressed angry horny conservative in all of us.

 

[PlanetFrnd]

I'm conservative leaning so I'm naturally against new ideas of any type... and females. I'll stop there because it'll become a political debate if I take it any further, and this isn't the politics board.

 

[OCBuckWife]

Actually there was some discussion.

I'm just wondering how many pages of disgusting material you *ahem* plowed your way through before you formed your opinion that it was a discussion thread and posted your own brilliant remarks?