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What's the message? "Go to Penn State and you'll make it to 50 of the next 55 super bowls"?

I think it sounds more like, "Go to Penn State where your 3-4 years won't be interesting enough for us to mention, and then you and your teammates will be scattered around the NFL well enough that there's a 50/55 chance each year that ONE of you or your PSU predecessors will make it to the Super Bowl."

And how did that work out for Hackenberg? 3 years at Penn State, and I think he left before 2016, so 0 wins against Ohio State, and 0 Big Ten championships. 0 pass attempts in the NFL? He tried to play in the Dingdong Football League (I forget what that was called) and led his team to 0-3 or 0-4 before being benched, and his backup brought his team from behind to win.

I mean, yeah, I'm cherry-picking data points. But isn't that what Penn State is doing? "Your claim to fame will be what you do AFTER you're at Penn State. So... you should come play for us."
 
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College football recruiting rankings: Teams with the best classes over a five-year average entering 2021
These 22 schools have averaged a top-25 class over the last five years

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Penn State: When compared to how Penn State ranked among its peers from 2012-16, the recent run of recruiting success under James Franklin is a major step up. The 2021 class, at No. 21 nationally, is the lowest-ranked class in our five-year window used here, but that group would have the Nittany Lions trending up if it arrived a few years earlier. Running off four-straight top-15 classes with a No. 5 ranking in 2018 provided a new base line for expectations when it comes to how Penn State performs on the recruiting trail. While the 2021 class, statistically, falls short of those expectations, it's worth pointing out that the group only includes 16 commits and the per-player rating (89.07) compares more favorably to those teams around the top 15. So while the rankings indicate a downward trend, some context reveals Penn State is still recruiting at the level we've come to expect under James Franklin -- just without the kind of splash commitments that helped a run into the top-five a few years ago.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...asses-over-a-five-year-average-entering-2021/
 
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ScriptOhio said:
College football recruiting rankings: Teams with the best classes over a five-year average entering 2021
These 22 schools have averaged a top-25 class over the last five years

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Penn State: When compared to how Penn State ranked among its peers from 2012-16, the recent run of recruiting success under James Franklin is a major step up. The 2021 class, at No. 21 nationally, is the lowest-ranked class in our five-year window used here, but that group would have the Nittany Lions trending up if it arrived a few years earlier. Running off four-straight top-15 classes with a No. 5 ranking in 2018 provided a new base line for expectations when it comes to how Penn State performs on the recruiting trail. While the 2021 class, statistically, falls short of those expectations, it's worth pointing out that the group only includes 16 commits and the per-player rating (89.07) compares more favorably to those teams around the top 15. So while the rankings indicate a downward trend, some context reveals Penn State is still recruiting at the level we've come to expect under James Franklin -- just without the kind of splash commitments that helped a run into the top-five a few years ago.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...asses-over-a-five-year-average-entering-2021/
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Fucking Georgia. LOL
 
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NFBuck said:
And scUM's ballyhooed 2017 class that did pretty much nothing on the field.
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I'm way to lazy to look this up, but my recollection is that some of those top tier guys from that class were considered questionable as signing day approached as folks realized that those kids peaked early and weren't really top tier after all. Also, it seems like a fair number of kids from that class ended up elsewhere. So yeah, they didn't get much out of that "great" class.
 
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So, that allegation against Micah Parsons is pretty serious. I was curious about what his character concerns were and I read that Franklin told the claimant to say nothing due to the status of Parsons.

program needs to be launched into the sun, big time
 
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LaVar Arrington defends character of Micah Parsons

This sent Arrington off, who took to social media to vehemently defend Parsons’ character.

“I’m not ok with the start of an inappropriate and inaccurate framing of @_micahparsons11 character,” Arrington wrote on Facebook. “I’ve watched this young man grow over the years. He has always been an awesome young man. He graduated school in 3 years HE HAS HIS DEGREE. He leaned on me to learn the ins and outs of how to study and approach the game of football. More importantly he has asked me how to be a better human. I trust him mentoring my son. ID NEVER ALLOW A POOR CHARACTER DUDE AROUND MY FAMILY. I had people attack my character when I was entering the draft and I had no advocates out there dispelling horrible rumors about my character. Micah watches my home and I learn a ton from him, he’s such a brilliant young man. Anyone would be lucky and blessed to have him play for their team. Call it what you will but it’s sad that any publications or insiders or anyone would question his character off of false reports. Shame on you.

“Micah stay focused you’ve done well! Those who know know that’s it and all it needs to be. Let’s see if they report on you helping these kids in juvenile detention centers “1st Chance” God bless you he’s got your back.”
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Humphries’ accusations were alleged and Parsons was never formally charged with any crime relating to the incident. Penn State was also cleared legally regarding the incident.

Entire article: https://247sports.com/Article/Micah...aft-2021-Miami-Dolphins-Penn-State-160104759/

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https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threa...y-podcast-on-scandal-to-start-in-2021.285749/

People don't like to be wrong. People don't like to be forced to change their minds. I think that's why they have a 5-page discussion about Sandusky, and whether he did anything wrong. They have been told for so long that Paterno is a saint, and it is so deep in their culture, that anything that blemishes him must be wrong.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds

This is a pretty interesting article, if you have time (I do, since our company is getting bought out, and we're going through a million meetings from our current leadership where they're basically saying, "This is the company line - live with it or don't. We don't really care."). Basically, there are some experiments where people are asked a bunch of A or B questions. Some are told they're right a very high number of times, and the others are told they're worse than randomly guessing. Even after telling them all that those statistics are wrong - they're all about the same as a Random Guesser - those who were originally told that they were awesome at guessing continue to believe that they're awesome at guessing. (I didn't read the whole article - maybe it has boobs at the bottom.)

There's a weird show on Netflix called "Behind the Curve". I'm not endorsing it, but it's about flat earthers and how they're all goobers. One dude does an experiment that proves the earth is spinning. That's not what he wanted it to show - he wanted it to show that the earth is sitting still. So he makes up an excuse for why his experiment "didn't work". And he tries again. Of course, it "doesn't work", again. Some people, instead of being forced to change their minds, insist that the facts are wrong.

The 4-5 Penn State fans I've talked to about this since 2011 are normal people and agree that Paterno should have been fired. The rest, though, get on message boards and argue whether Sandusky even did anything wrong. It's easier than believing that they were wrong.
 
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