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Zurp said:
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People don't like to be wrong. People don't like to be forced to change their minds. I think that's why they have a 5-page discussion about Sandusky, and whether he did anything wrong. They have been told for so long that Paterno is a saint, and it is so deep in their culture, that anything that blemishes him must be wrong.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds

This is a pretty interesting article, if you have time (I do, since our company is getting bought out, and we're going through a million meetings from our current leadership where they're basically saying, "This is the company line - live with it or don't. We don't really care."). Basically, there are some experiments where people are asked a bunch of A or B questions. Some are told they're right a very high number of times, and the others are told they're worse than randomly guessing. Even after telling them all that those statistics are wrong - they're all about the same as a Random Guesser - those who were originally told that they were awesome at guessing continue to believe that they're awesome at guessing. (I didn't read the whole article - maybe it has boobs at the bottom.)

There's a weird show on Netflix called "Behind the Curve". I'm not endorsing it, but it's about flat earthers and how they're all goobers. One dude does an experiment that proves the earth is spinning. That's not what he wanted it to show - he wanted it to show that the earth is sitting still. So he makes up an excuse for why his experiment "didn't work". And he tries again. Of course, it "doesn't work", again. Some people, instead of being forced to change their minds, insist that the facts are wrong.

The 4-5 Penn State fans I've talked to about this since 2011 are normal people and agree that Paterno should have been fired. The rest, though, get on message boards and argue whether Sandusky even did anything wrong. It's easier than believing that they were wrong.
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I've long maintained that the Paterno sainthood myth had become intertwined with their own personal psychological identity and sense of self worth and professed superiority. They didn't just root for a better foosball team than yours. They were inherently better, more moral people than you and me because they rooted for HIS foosball team. When they say "We Are Because He Was," it's not some trite saying of fanhood like "Go Bucks" or "Hook Em." They mean it in a deeply fundamental manner central to their very sense of identity. In other words and to put it more clinically, they are very, very fucked up people.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I've long maintained that the Paterno sainthood myth had become intertwined with their own personal psychological identity and sense of self worth and professed superiority. They didn't just root for a better foosball team than yours. They were inherently better, more moral people than you and me because they rooted for HIS foosball team. When they say "We Are Because He Was," it's not some trite saying of fanhood like "Go Bucks" or "Hook Em." They mean it in a deeply fundamental manner central to their very sense of identity. In other words and to put it more clinically, they are very, very fucked up people.
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Cults, man. :no:
 
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You will be shocked when you hear this- coverage of Penn State athletics is not a top priority in suburban Philadelphia.

It's surprising with football- since Temple is the only FBS program between Philadelphia and State College. Most of the schools between Philadelphia and State College (Penn, Villanova, Lehigh, Lafayette & Bucknell) are FCS programs

Penn State basketball is even less of a priority in Philadelphia, since there are six schools that play D-1 basketball- the Big 5 (Temple, Villanova, Penn, LaSalle, St. Joe's) and Drexel.

Add on a 3 hour drive (into literally the middle of nowhere) from Philadelphia to State College.
 
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NYG21254246 said:
You will be shocked when you hear this- coverage of Penn State athletics is not a top priority in suburban Philadelphia.

It's surprising with football- since Temple is the only FBS program between Philadelphia and State College. Most of the schools between Philadelphia and State College (Penn, Villanova, Lehigh, Lafayette & Bucknell) are FCS programs

Penn State basketball is even less of a priority in Philadelphia, since there are six schools that play D-1 basketball- the Big 5 (Temple, Villanova, Penn, LaSalle, St. Joe's) and Drexel.

Add on a 3 hour drive (into literally the middle of nowhere) from Philadelphia to State College.
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Philly (and it's suburbs) is a professional sports town. Not a college town. If any college lays claim it 'Nova in basketball season.

This is where you can meet the elusive, non-cultist Penn State fans.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
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Philly (and it's suburbs) is a professional sports town. Not a college town. If any college lays claim it 'Nova in basketball season.

This is where you can meet the elusive, non-cultist Penn State fans.
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Now that they have improved in recent years, there's been more interest in Temple football. If they can only keep a solid coach (Golden, Rhule, Addazio), and not be a jumping point.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
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Philly (and it's suburbs) is a professional sports town. Not a college town. If any college lays claim it 'Nova in basketball season.

This is where you can meet the elusive, non-cultist Penn State fans.
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I would agree that Philadelphia is more of a pro sports city, but their fan support depends on the team. They sell out the Wells Fargo Center & Lincoln Financial Field regardless of how good/bad the Flyers & Eagles are.

They only support the Sixers when they're good... As for the Phillies, not so much. When the Yankees, the Yankees' JV team (aka the Mutts), and Boston come to town, 75% of the fans at Citizens Bank Park are fans of the opposing team.

Then again, what else would you expect from a team in the Phillies that has more losses than ANY TEAM IN ANY SPORT?
 
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The old stadium literally had a jail, courtroom and judge in its bowels to process the Eagles neanderthal fans as quickly as possible. Browns fan may have been a bunch of embittered battery chucking drunks back in the day, but they were mere pikeys compared to Eagles fan.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
The old stadium literally had a jail, courtroom and judge in its bowels to process the Eagles neanderthal fans as quickly as possible. Browns fan may have been a bunch of embittered battery chucking drunks back in the day, but they were mere pikeys compared to Eagles fan.
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They had a courtroom & jail at Lincoln Financial Field when it first opened as well.

With the exception of Las Vegas & SoFi Stadium in LA- I've been to Giants games at every NFL stadium. Philadelphia is the only place I've been in a fight.

I've seen Eagles fans go after a Giants fan in a wheelchair, punch police horses, eat crap...
 
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