Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[Jaxbuck]

Google "Ohio" by CSN&Y...

you'll probably have to explain the CSN&Y part to him as well

Menardo its;
Crosby (not Bing)
Stills
Nash (not Steve)
Young (not Steve either)

 

[TooTall]

you'll probably have to explain the CSN&Y part to him as well

Menardo its;
Crosby (not Bing)
Stills
Nash (not Steve)
Young (not Steve either)

Know the song, never knew the lyrics well enough to know what Gator was talking about. I do now.

 

[buxfan4life]

you'll probably have to explain the CSN&Y part to him as well

Menardo its;
Crosby (not Bing)
Stills
Nash (not Steve)
Young (not Steve either)

This makes me feel old.

 

[Mr_Burns]

I saw this one over on the Shag back in November and have laughed about it a number of times since then. I haven't kept up well enough with this thread to know if it has already been posted.

 

[Muck]

I haven't kept up well enough with this thread to know if it has already been posted.

It has, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be refreshed once in a while.

 

[Zander42]

I don't know the NCAA bylaws to have any real opinion, Cinci, but the fact that the NCAA sent a letter indicates to me there must be something they think they can get their hands in.

That said, it could have been a PR letter the NCAA sent knowing it would go public and make them look like they care.

I understand the sentiment that it's a PR move, and I think that is a large part of it, but I also think that there is still a legitimate cause for NCAA concern.

I don't think they need to set up shop in State College or anything like that, but someone needs to be paying attention to the legal proceedings in case something pops up that might not be illegal but would could be an NCAA violation. PSU has at least demonstrated a lack of institutional control to some degree, but their lack of control has not been shown to violate any rules of amateurism or competitiveness, so the NCAA has no reason for major involvement at this point.

But, Pandora's box has been opened. They would be remiss not to take a peak inside.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

I understand the sentiment that it's a PR move, and I think that is a large part of it, but I also think that there is still a legitimate cause for NCAA concern.

I don't think they need to set up shop in State College or anything like that, but someone needs to be paying attention to the legal proceedings in case something pops up that might not be illegal but would could be an NCAA violation. PSU has at least demonstrated a lack of institutional control to some degree, but their lack of control has not been shown to violate any rules of amateurism or competitiveness, so the NCAA has no reason for major involvement at this point.

But, Pandora's box has been opened. They would be remiss not to take a peak inside.

There certainly is cause for NCAA concern - I think of it like the Commissioner of a pro league having the power to do what's "right for the league" In other words, I think the NCAA does have an interest in the goings on of member institutions.

But, like you say, there seems to be little/no implication of NCAA rules on amateurism and competitiveness. My understanding of "failure to monitor" and "lack of institutional control" is that these charges stem from those concepts, and not from how a school "behaves" generally.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

PSU has at least demonstrated a lack of institutional control to some degree, but their lack of control has not been shown to violate any rules of amateurism or competitiveness, so the NCAA has no reason for major involvement at this point.

But, Pandora's box has been opened. They would be remiss not to take a peak inside.

If PSU was willing to cover up child rape, I'm sure that they would have no problem covering up $100 handshakes. Or just about anything else, for that matter.

 

[localyokel]

Now Ped State fans get sick to their stomachs. Says all you need to know about them.

On a serious note though, this hiring is a disgrace to Penn State University and the schools supporters.

Yep.

Well, something is a disgrace to them...

Wouldn't it be funny if O'Brien decides to turn down the job after all this, and they're back to no coach at all?

 

[Muck]

If PSU was willing to cover up child rape, I'm sure that they would have no problem covering up $100 handshakes. Or just about anything else, for that matter.

Psshaww!

What part of Success With Honor don't you understand?!?!

Penn State has never been hit with a major violation!!!!!!! Their student athletes are rarely *convicted of criminal behavior!!!! That is no accident!

If anything, this current unpleasantness has shown that Penn State has unprecedented internal controls in place to make sure that unsavory behavior could never happen....and if something DID happen the elite Penn State Police department would snuff it out and put a stop to it in no time at all!


*they're just indicted on a regular basis.

 

[Muck]

I can't believe I maintained a straight face through that entire post.

 

[buxfan4life]

If PSU was willing to cover up child rape, I'm sure that they would have no problem covering up $100 handshakes. Or just about anything else, for that matter.

I may have posted something about this earlier, but I have a client who was a LB for PedState back when JoePa was still an asst coach, and he told me that football players at PedState, then and now, want for nothing, ever. Take it FWIW.

 

[NFBuck]

Hiring a Coach not part of PSU family..Outrage..Child Rape OK WTF is wrong with these people. Your family needs to be blown up..

Psshaww!

What part of Success With Honor don't you understand?!?!

Penn State has never been hit with a major violation!!!!!!! Their student athletes are rarely *convicted of criminal behavior!!!! That is no accident!

If anything, this current unpleasantness has shown that Penn State has unprecedented internal controls in place to make sure that unsavory behavior could never happen....and if something DID happen the elite Penn State Police department would snuff it out and put a stop to it in no time at all!


*they're just indicted on a regular basis.

 

[localyokel]

This is the Apollo 13 of moonshot coaching hires.

Well, not quite...all those guys came back alive.

Remains to be seen about this situation.

 

[TooTall]

From the Scout boards:

Here's some good news for everyone. With Wisconsin losing a bunch of its staff to Pitt, and Ohio State banned from bowls next year, Penn State has a decent shot of winning the division.

It takes Wisconsin losing practically their entire coaching staff, and Ohio State being banned from post-season play for Penn State to be considered favorites in the division....