Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[Muck]

There is also a thread on BWI claiming that Redd will have to go back to Penn State when the lawsuits happen.

To be fair that claim was even too much for most of zombie nation.

Fortunately for us, they have other board members that tend to get their legal and action advice from BWI.....

I don't know if it is funny or sad (probably both) that this statement would be the typical hyperbolic silliness that message board posters are prone to...but in this case it is actually completely accurate.

Hmm...that's a good point, friend. Also from Wiki:

You're starting to see how Penn State has tried to play the game. They flip flop between claiming private and public status depending upon which would be the most beneficial for each individual set of circumstances.

 

[Delaware Buck]

See, that's part of the problem I have. What freaking trustee goes on a message board and posts stuff?!?

You have to meet this tool in person to fully understand how loony he is.

 

[Bucklion]

http://espn.go.com/college-football...ny-lions-royalty-merchandise-numbers-surprise

SIPA, looks like everyone is doubling down on gear...

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

More "Facts"

President Ericson has the authority to sign

Link

See also: FN11

See Also, Penn State By Laws Which clearly identifies the President of the University as Secretary of the Board.

 

[alexhortdog95]

http://espn.go.com/college-football...ny-lions-royalty-merchandise-numbers-surprise

SIPA, looks like everyone AT PED STATE is doubling down on gear...

FIFY - From same article...

Outside of State College, it appears that Penn State apparel has had a hard time coming off the shelves.


Matt Powell, an analyst for SportsOneSource, a sports market retail tracking firm that monitors sales in sporting goods stores, says that in July, Penn State merchandise sales were down 50 percent from where they were during the same period last year. Powell's company does not track sales at college bookstores.
"The bottom just dropped out," he said. "The trend certainly seems to show that fans are moving away from supporting Penn State."

What person would be caught dead even touching one of those jerseys?!?

 

[alexhortdog95]

More "Facts"

President Ericson has the authority to sign

Link

See also: FN11

See Also, Penn State By Laws Which clearly identifies the President of the University as Secretary of the Board.

First Link:

Second link:

Except as stated under LIMITED DELEGATION OF SIGNATURE AUTHORITY below, all contractual documents, must be signed by one of the following University officials as authorized by the Board of Trustees to contractually bind the University:

President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer, Assistant Treasurer (Board Officers), and Senior Vice President for Finance and Business, and the Corporate Controller (University Officers). In addition, for all agreements and contracts related to the affairs of the Milton S. Hershey Medical Center, the Associate Vice President for Finance and Business and Controller, and in his/her absence, the Assistant Controller.

Third Link:

Secretary of the Board: The President of the University shall be ex officio the Secretary of the Board.​

Ex offiicio means "by reason of the office". Basically, because he's the president of the school, his title gives him the office of secretary of the board. Here's his duties (on the board):

The secretary shall perform the corporate duties which pertain to that office; he/she shall be custodian of the corporate seal, conduct the ordinary correspondence of the Board of Trustees and maintain an accurate record of all proceedings of the Board and of the executive​

committee.

He's just that - a secretary. He probably doesn't even meet with them in that capacity.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

http://espn.go.com/college-football...ny-lions-royalty-merchandise-numbers-surprise

SIPA, looks like everyone is doubling down on gear...

From the article

As of last season, Penn State was the third most popular football team in the country, according to an ESPN Sports Poll. More than five percent of the country considered themselves Ohio State fans (5.2 percent), 4.1 percent said they supported Notre Dame and 3.8 percent said they rooted for the Nittany Lions.

Nothing to do with the State Penn scandal, but it is nice to see Ohio State in front of ND.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Alex - your reading of the clause is that the board award of one of those nine persons authority to sign a contract.

Actually, the clause means that each of those nine individuals has authority to sign on behalf of the board.

here is a link regarding more university bureaucratic crap which clearly indicates that the University President is an authorized University signatory

 

[Muck]

You have to meet this tool in person to fully understand how loony he is.

 

[scarletmike]

Alex, I read the bolded part from the second link as that these persons/offices have been authorized by the BOT to sign for the University, not that they need the authorization of the Board for each time/item they sign.

That is probably the key phrase, and past instances will be how it is likely interpreted. Have the persons listed needed to get approval to sign for the University from the Board in the past, or have they been able to sign without specific approval by the Board in each individual instance because of their authorization?

EDIT: BKB beat me to it with a much shorter reply.

 

[alexhortdog95]

Alex - your reading of the clause is that the board award of one of those nine persons authority to sign a contract.

Actually, the clause means that each of those nine individuals has authority to sign on behalf of the board.

Help me out on this, cause I'm not seeing that aspect of it. Again, from what I know of being a trustee the last 7 years myself at an incorporated non profit, there's nothing I'm seeing in the bylaws that were in the previous link that states that the secretary of the board of trustees (nor the school president) can sign anything without the express concent of the board.

Usually, the board chairperson signs that document, unless there are other circumstances that arise, such as the chairperson being unable to sign (because he/she cannot fulfill the duties of the office), and the same goes for the vice chair as well.

Ironically, I'm the secretary of our board of trustees....

 

[buxfan4life]

Help me out on this, cause I'm not seeing that aspect of it. Again, from what I know of being a trustee the last 7 years myself at an incorporated non profit, there's nothing I'm seeing in the bylaws that were in the previous link that states that the secretary of the board of trustees (nor the school president) can sign anything without the express concent of the board.

Usually, the board chairperson signs that document, unless there are other circumstances that arise, such as the chairperson being unable to sign (because he/she cannot fulfill the duties of the office), and the same goes for the vice chair as well.

Ironically, I'm the secretary of our board of trustees....

Does your board consist of 32 members? Do some of the members on your board have a idol worship problem with a dead guy?

If the answer to the above 2 questions is NO, then you can not relate any of your experiences to the Penn State BOT.

These are not normal people, therefore it is not a normal BOT.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

The board may, and in PSU's case has, delegated signatory authority to whomever it wishes. Your board may or may not have similar signatory authority. There is no requirement that these structures be uniform, which accounts for why your church board may well be set up differently.

 

[NFBuck]

See, that's part of the problem I have. What freaking trustee goes on a message board and posts stuff?!?

EDIT: Never mind. I just saw this trainwreck of a video...

New Penn State-Elected Leader: Anthony Lubrano - YouTube

And they made Adam Taliaferro a trustee?!?

Watch that, then seek out any of those Scientology propoganda videos. Tell me if there's any difference. That video right there should be enough to invoke the death penalty. The whole point was to flush this disgusting culture out of that little sparrow-fart town, then they elect this fucking lunatic and he's running around like Billy Mays on a dozen red bulls.

"You ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?"

 

[scott91575]

This is classic 5 stages of grieving. First denial. We have seen that in spades. Now anger. Lashing out at the NCAA with threats of lawsuits. Next will be bargaining. Probably after the lawsuit is thrown out. I am sure after a football season or two depression will set in. Sadly I am not sure they will ever hit the last stage, acceptance.