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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

JFC. They're over there crying over every player who gets busted for something against the law and wondering when the NCAA will step in. Because covering up child molestation for over a decade and allowing other kids to be harmed is the same thing as hiring a hooker.


But no....they totally get it.
 
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Woody1968;2187163; said:

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I sometimes chuckle after reading some of these posts. If you believe for a moment that I have become a sheep, then you need to think again. Measure twice but cut once. That's more prudent than running at the mouth without direction.
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Apparently these are a real thing at Penn State now.

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Amongst other things, complaining about "innocent" people being punished- by making it more difficult for a team that plays a game to be good (not even taking that team or that game away)- is particularly disgusting given what their coaches and administration stood by and let happen to actually innocent children.
 
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Buckeye86;2187175; said:
Apparently these are a real thing at Penn State now.

208888_melt.jpg


Amongst other things, complaining about "innocent" people being punished- by making it more difficult for a team that plays a game to be good (not even taking that team or that game away)- is particularly disgusting given what their coaches and administration stood by and let happen to actually innocent children.

vBet on how long it will take before the NCAA has a reason to change their status from "on probation" to "suspended"?
 
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.......speechless........

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=156651195&mid=156651195&sid=890&style=2

New McQueary story explains variations?? Reply

From a phone call with John Ziegler today - A story from a contact in SC who knows McQueary

He says Joe - when called to the Grand Jury - had no memory of any meeting with McQueary

Not wanting to appear senile he called McQueary to find out what McQueary told him in 2001

that's how he came up with the "fondling' and "a sexual nature" He really had no clue about it.

So that's what he told the Grand Jury. Joe did not want to appear as if he had a faulty memory.

Turns out McQueary never told any of them about anything but being upset about seeing JS In the shower with a boy

he never said anything about sexual contact - that the boy "victim 2" appeared completely normal in 2001

The AG investigators guilt tripped McQueary into "enhancing" his 2001 account for the grand jury and he and Joe thought they would just be minor players in an investigation with multiple victims they knew nothing about since victim 2 was unidentified. McQueary went along with it to help the prosecutors never having a clue how it would hurt PSU.

Once the Presentment came out he was trapped.

This makes more sense than anything I've heard. Mike thinks he's helping the AG by 'enhancing his recall of 2001 and has no idea it could ever harm Joe or PSU" He just wants to help put JS away. The prosecutors make him feel guilty about not getting a better observation in 2001 and let him know that boys have been harmed because of it. He tries to help out but ends up trapping himself when the presentment comes out and everything falls on PSU. Now if he recants it could be grounds for an appeal.

But this seems to make sense given the different versions told by his Dad, Dr Dranov, Joe, Tim and Gary and his Perjury Hearing Testimony

If this is true then Mike really screwed Joe and PSU without meaning to do that. But still the result is horrible.

That story appears on BSD like this

John Ziegler, a talk show host/film writer dropped the juiciest nugget I've heard to date on PS4RS fb last night. He says that he spoke with a VERY well placed source (not in the paterno family) that there is a very different explanation for Joe's grand jury testimony than anything we've heard to date. He pretty much says that it has to do with how Joe was prepped and how the other core 3 were prepped. Spanier, Curly, and Schulz who were all prepped by Baldwin all have similar stories (horseplay) whereas Joe declined assistance from Baldwin and had something different (sexual). Ziegler said that the source said that when it was reported back then in 2001 by MM it was not nearly as big a deal as the media is making it out to be because MM never told a single person including Joe Paterno that it was sexual. Dr Dranov asked MM if it was sexual 5 times and MM responded no each time… and then he went to Joe and told him. The source says that immediately after being summoned by the grand jury Joe went to MM because he was having trouble remembering exactly what happened back then (since it really was not that big a deal at the time, he was barely involved, and frankly he's an old man). MM then tells Joe that he def mentioned the word sexual in there 10 years ago to cover his behind… which isn't so farfetched to think about when you consider that the 5 other adults that talked with MM in immediately after this (including MM's dad) all say that MM didn't mention anything sexual.

This post was edited on 7/30 3:42 PM by aurabass4psu
 
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AJHawkfan;2187176; said:
vBet on how long it will take before the NCAA has a reason to change their status from "on probation" to "suspended"?

2 years.... but that will be after a full investigation and then they'll have like a 5 year death sentence at best, kicked out of the NCAA at worst.... or depending on your point of view flip the best/worst.

They really should shut there mouths and take there medicine.... If the NCAA really starts nosing around campus with all the rumors I have heard over the years. If even half the stuff is true there dirty as sin.

The NCAA at this point should take its time and do a slow "water drip torture of there program". Spend two years of scaring off recruits, allowing the team to free fall into a laughing joke on the field before it shuts them down.
 
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Ziegler said that the source said that when it was reported back then in 2001 by MM it was not nearly as big a deal as the media is making it out to be because MM never told a single person including Joe Paterno that it was sexual. Dr Dranov asked MM if it was sexual 5 times and MM responded no each time? and then he went to Joe and told him.
Which is a fine story (not really) if Sandusky wasn't investigated in 1998 and under suspicion of being a child molester- regardless of if there was a conviction or not that by itself throws all of the "it wasn't a big deal" bullshit right out the window- as if grown men regularly showering with other people's children at the football facility isn't a big deal under any circumstances.
 
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AJHawkfan;2187178; said:

Yeah, right. So this "source" has been silent until this hack Zeigler contacted him?


Hey, I have new information that all of those emails that were found in regards to Tattoo-gate were all fabricated so that JT would be thrown under the bus, and....and....and that JT never actually physically signed the NCAA paper (you can tell by the way the J is), and.....and....even though I can't reveal my source since I am a "journalist/blogger" you must believe me because all I say is true and I am not out to get hits on my blog by posting conspiracy bullshit.

See, we all can pull "sources" out of our ass.
 
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Buckeye86;2187175; said:
Apparently these are a real thing at Penn State now.

208888_melt.jpg


Amongst other things, complaining about "innocent" people being punished- by making it more difficult for a team that plays a game to be good (not even taking that team or that game away)- is particularly disgusting given what their coaches and administration stood by and let happen to actually innocent children.

Those SMACK shirts are all lame. Every last one of them.
 
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Woody1968;2187187; said:
http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=156650327&mid=156650327&sid=890&style=2

PSU Idiot #1: What message board has been the most anti-PSU

PSU Idiot #2: Ohio State, because we played them even the past ten years!

Reasonable person: 3-7 is even??????

PSU Idiot #2: You should watch the game sometimes and not just look at the final score (Actual Quote)

Penn State, in their three wins, has not beaten Ohio State by more than a TD. They won by 6 last year, 7 in 2008 and 7 in 2005

Ohio State, in their 7 wins, has beaten them by an average of 13.6 points per game

won by 24 in 2010
won by 17 in 2009
won by 20 in 2007
won by 22 in 2006
won by 11 in 2004
won by 1 in 2003
won by 6 in 2002

Yep. Real even.

Incidentally, I watched the games as well.
 
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