Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[Mike80]

And a side note.....if you're a Buckeye fan planning on making that trip to Slappy Valley, don't. Just don't. I was there in 2005 and I'll never go back. Depending on what happens between now and then, this game could be much much worse.

So you're saying I SHOULDN'T go to Rhythmic Slappy Valley dressed as the PedoBear and have Bucky Katt drive (and abandon) me there?!

 

[buxfan4life]

From Audibles:

So, the BO'B statue mold is already in the planning stages, eh?

These people are fucking nutjobs.

 

[Mike80]

At this point, I'm fully expecting State Penn students to chain themselves to the statue as a form of 'civil disobedience'.

I hope so.

Google "Rachel Corrie". I'll drive the fucking bulldozer.

 

[NFBuck]

So, the BO'B statue mold is already in the planning stages, eh?

These people are [censored]ing nutjobs.

They're just gonna chisel off the glasses and add an ass to the chin. The second part is a questionable idea.

 

[Oh8ch]

PSU Pres speaks on NCAA

http://www.statecollege.com/news/lo...s-to-respond-to-ncaa-in-coming-weeks-1092990/

On the NCAA and possible sanctions for the football program:
"We'll be responding to (NCAA) President Emmert's letter that we received from the NCAA on Nov. 17.
"The NCAA had allowed us to wait in our response until we received Judge (Louis) Freeh's report and recommendations. Now that we've received it, we've begun to start the process of incorporating those recommendations in our response to NCAA.
"Once the NCAA has that, we'll continue in dialogue with them about what are appropriate sanctions.
"Certainly we would be responding, hopefully within next couple of weeks."

Note that he did not include the qualifier "if sanctions are appropriate" as Emmert did repeatedly on PBS. Emmert had to do that or he could be accused of prejudging. Perhaps Erickson was just being sloppy, but IMO PSU and the NCAA are going to come to an agreement and do so quickly with little or no further investigation. PSU has zero leverage and can not afford to be perceived as balking at anything the NCAA might publicly suggest. Whatever the sanctions will be they will be in place before September.



Wisconsin and Michigan St? Really? I just have no recollection of that whatsoever.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

So you're saying I SHOULDN'T go to Rhythmic Slappy Valley dressed as the PedoBear and have Bucky Katt drive (and abandon) me there?!

well no. that you should do. i'll go to videotape if that happens.

 

[NFBuck]

PSU Pres speaks on NCAA

http://www.statecollege.com/news/lo...s-to-respond-to-ncaa-in-coming-weeks-1092990/



Note that he did not include the qualifier "if sanctions are appropriate" as Emmert did repeatedly on PBS. Emmert had to do that or he could be accused of prejudging. Perhaps Erickson was just being sloppy, but IMO PSU and the NCAA are going to come to an agreement and do so quickly with little or no further investigation. PSU has zero leverage and can not afford to be perceived as balking at anything the NCAA might publicly suggest. Whatever the sanctions will be they will be in place before September.



Wisconsin and Michigan St? Really? I just have no recollection of that whatsoever.

Cue the Branch Joestownians calling Erickson a coward, and accusing him of buckling under the pressure of mass media without any FACTS.

 

[NFBuck]

This is an entertaining read.

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

BN27.. I can't even imagine what it is like being in the midst of that storm... I have a half dozen PenStaters I hang with.. who just will never get it.. can't imagine what you are seeing

 

[malibuspeedrace]

Somebody made a beautiful post on BSD and I think it should be shared here. (Edited for language)

I think my mind hit its saturation point. (Forget) all of this.

Let?s look at what?s in play here: (i) a serial pedophile; (ii) a group of men who at the very least were incapable of recognizing the seriousness of harm to children and at the very worst wholly dismissed it; and (iii) a society that with each day gets closer and closer to mob rule, which is so hell bent on revenge (where there can be none) that I?m surprised we haven?t seen crosses erected on Mount Nittany. Add to this a media that, at the end of the day, is driven by profit (if forgiveness and contrition were profitable, the narrative wouldn?t be what it is) and actively inciting the mob. This is what I?m wasting time thinking about each day?

This is the society to which we?ve evolved? This is the society which each morning I walk alongside? Am I the insane one to not be a part of them? Am I crazy for thinking reasonable and moderate thought before reactions are best both for healing and punishment? When we see other countries?ones we claim are less developed or advanced than ours?stoning women, dragging burnt bodies through the streets, killing children for following faiths not of the majority?we recoil with disdain. And yet I feel like our society is one step removed from this.

And what the (crap) happened to logic? Fine, remove the statue. Change every name on campus. But you know what? Somewhere a child still will be molested. Somewhere a child still will be beaten. Why? Because symbolic or misdirected actions do jack (poop) to cure the problem. Somewhere in Ohio, in West Virginia, and by God, in Pennsylvania, some creep will ruin a child?s life, regardless of what happens at or to Penn State. Want proof? Watch [inappropriate/removed] Dateline NBC?s old To Catch A Predator episodes. Hell, read your (Darn) newspapers! Whatever we?ve tried to deter it hasn?t worked. No football in State College 5-7 times/year for a few falls? Let me know in 2015 if pedophilia has been eradicated from society. Penn State may have brought this problem to society?s attention, but assuming it is a Penn State problem is society?s way of assuring that it?ll never happen in their town, their school, their church. Here?s the thing: it has, and it will. Death to a football program? How about capital punishment for molesters? Society has its scope, but the wrong target. Or, at the least, it has a myopic target. P.S. I don?t give a (crap) if the University is whitewashed of everything Paterno. It?s all (Cow poop)?a symbolic remedy to a societal problem. Let?s stop forest fires by banning the sale of saplings.

What really gives me angst is how society is so willing to carry the "think of the children" banner while wholly ignoring the children. What happens when State College businesses fail due to revenue and Mom and Dad cannot provide for their children? Are some children more sympathetic than others? Are we a society that is prepared to determine which children deserve our concern and which don?t? (Hint: We already have?donate some time and energy at your local homeless food shelter, or at a summer "lunches served here" playground.)

there could be more victims

or whatever you call them.
CAN'T SHUT 'ER DOWN..

 

[jlb1705]

This is an entertaining read.

Please please please organize a protest you dumb motherfuckers.

 

[NFBuck]

Please please please organize a protest you dumb [censored]s.

 

[Mike80]

Napalm it.

Salt it.

Be done with it.

And I'm not just trying (and failing) to be funny. Ped State cannot be seriously considered an institution of higher learning any longer. LOOK at their BOT. LOOK at the school's administration. Everything in this institution revolves around some old dead guy's legacy and a goddamn football team that hasn't been truly relevant since the early 90s at best and mid 80s at worst. NONE of the current students with very few exceptions were even born the last time Ped State won a National Title and most were wearing diapers when it joined the Big Ten.

What's worse, the program itself has apparently grown so out of control that the university has taken steps well beyond any legal boundaries, to protect and coddle this football program to the detriment of multiple kids who have been molested and abused by the monster named Sandusky. It has taken on a cult status that allows (AND JUSTIFIES) their "fans" AND their graduates and the very people who shouldn't be allowing such travesties at an alleged site of "higher education and learning" to occur.

It's not a University to me anymore. Granted, it was barely one before at least in my eyes, but now it's clearly only about a football program which happens to be connected to a place that charges upwards of $12,000 per year for an "education" and room and board.

This isn't just another post wishing the NCAA would shut down their athletic department or whatever. This is a post saying the entire institution needs to be razed and MAYBE after some time (and allowing the fallout to settle), pushing the restart button, putting people clearly not connected in any way, shape or form in charge and rebuilding the SCHOOL itself.

 

[jlb1705]

Napalm it.

Salt it.

Be done with it.

And I'm not just trying (and failing) to be funny. Ped State cannot be seriously considered an institution of higher learning any longer. LOOK at their BOT. LOOK at the school's administration. Everything in this institution revolves around some old dead guy's legacy and a goddamn football team that hasn't been truly relevant since the early 90s at best and mid 80s at worst. NONE of the current students with very few exceptions were even born the last time Ped State won a National Title and most were wearing diapers when it joined the Big Ten.

What's worse, the program itself has apparently grown so out of control that the university has taken steps well beyond any legal boundaries, to protect and coddle this football program to the detriment of multiple kids who have been molested and abused by the monster named Sandusky. It has taken on a cult status that allows (AND JUSTIFIES) their "fans" AND their graduates and the very people who shouldn't be allowing such travesties at an alleged site of "higher education and learning" to occur.

It's not a University to me anymore. Granted, it was barely one before at least in my eyes, but now it's clearly only about a football program which happens to be connected to a place that charges upwards of $12,000 per year for an "education" and room and board.

This isn't just another post wishing the NCAA would shut down their athletic department or whatever. This is a post saying the entire institution needs to be razed and MAYBE after some time (and allowing the fallout to settle), pushing the restart button, putting people clearly not connected in any way, shape or form in charge and rebuilding the SCHOOL itself.

No kidding.

If these are the kinds of thinkers and citizens that they are CULTivating, then the institution serves no purpose. It is counter-productive to our society.

 

[Oh8ch]

Napalm it.

Salt it.

Be done with it.

And I'm not just trying (and failing) to be funny. Ped State cannot be seriously considered an institution of higher learning any longer. LOOK at their BOT. LOOK at the school's administration. Everything in this institution revolves around some old dead guy's legacy and a goddamn football team that hasn't been truly relevant since the early 90s at best and mid 80s at worst. NONE of the current students with very few exceptions were even born the last time Ped State won a National Title and most were wearing diapers when it joined the Big Ten.

What's worse, the program itself has apparently grown so out of control that the university has taken steps well beyond any legal boundaries, to protect and coddle this football program to the detriment of multiple kids who have been molested and abused by the monster named Sandusky. It has taken on a cult status that allows (AND JUSTIFIES) their "fans" AND their graduates and the very people who shouldn't be allowing such travesties at an alleged site of "higher education and learning" to occur.

It's not a University to me anymore. Granted, it was barely one before at least in my eyes, but now it's clearly only about a football program which happens to be connected to a place that charges upwards of $12,000 per year for an "education" and room and board.

This isn't just another post wishing the NCAA would shut down their athletic department or whatever. This is a post saying the entire institution needs to be razed and MAYBE after some time (and allowing the fallout to settle), pushing the restart button, putting people clearly not connected in any way, shape or form in charge and rebuilding the SCHOOL itself.

Have you no compassion? What about the people who will lose their livelihood if Penn State doesn't play football? What about their children? We don't care about the football. Spare the waitresses and parking lot attendants, the ice cream scoopers and hotel staff. Have you no shame?

Penn State is too big to fail.