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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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409fold said:
The vote, when it occurred, went 7-3. So PSU got in by a vote. Michigan, MSU and Indiana were the No votes. Northwestern was the swing Yes vote.
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I have like 4 different questions to that

OK....re-reading and now there's only 1

And now there's none.....so I'll just say fuck Penn State
 
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colobuck79 said:
So TSUN was scared of letting them in?
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Michigan wasn't scared --- their then-President was a guy named James Duderstadt, and he had an "Ivy League Mentality" (for lack of a better phrase) as regards the place of athletics in the greater context of a University. He thought sports were way too commercialized as is (and this was in the context of 1989, much less 2019!), and was against a further expansion of that commercialization.

A quote from a book he wrote (where he discussed the Penn State expansion and U-M's vote):

"The expansion of the Big Ten conference by adding Penn State University provides yet another example of how commercialism can distort college sports. As the saying goes, you win some, you lose some. The expansion of the Big Ten Conference was one of the battles Michigan lost, since we fought against it. We were not opposed to Penn State as an institution, but saw absolutely no reason beyond television market share that conference expansion made sense.

On the plus side, PSU was an outstanding academic institution, on a par with other Big Ten schools. It was the flagship public university of its state; it was a member of the AAU, and it had strong athletic programs. More to the point, it could provide the Big Ten with an important entry into the eastern television market. But adding an eleventh university would cause almost as many problems. It would create an awkward schedule. The 1000-mile distance between PSU and Iowa symbolized the travel difficulties. There was great uncertainty as to whether the addition of PSU would add any revenue to the Big Ten Conference, or whether it would just add one additional mouth feeding at the same trough."

There's more, but you get the idea. Link below (I actually have this book at home, but some of the pages are obscured in the free Google preview - Page 181 is the most relevant page:

https://books.google.com/books?id=R...thletics and the american university"&f=false
 
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BigWoof31 said:
Question from afar.
Is the the invite extended to Penn State the biggest mistake Delaney made in his career as B1G commish?
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I cant blame Delaney for PSU. Nobody outside Unhappy Valley (or PA at least) knew what was going on back then...

Delaney will always go down as a shill for the bowl system at the conference' expense... but i dont know how he could in any way be blamed for missing something the entire University covered up for decades.

colobuck79 said:
So TSUN was scared of letting them in?
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They tried to stop MSU too. And led the charge to kick Nebraska out of AAU after they joined.
They have weird insecurity issues.
Ohio State supported MSU and petitioned for Nebraska to stay in AAU. I dont know that the latter was 'right', but it was the neighborly thing to do after bringing them in.
Michigan is always happy to shit on the conference to spite their nose... then get angry when the Presidents and ADs vote for the more diplomatic school in a Rose Bowl tie (MSU voted for us despite a UM alum being AD).
 
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kujirakira said:
I cant blame Delaney for PSU. Nobody outside Unhappy Valley (or PA at least) knew what was going on back then...

Delaney will always go down as a shill for the bowl system at the conference' expense... but i dont know how he could in any way be blamed for missing something the entire University covered up for decades.



They tried to stop MSU too. And led the charge to kick Nebraska out of AAU after they joined.
They have weird insecurity issues.
Ohio State supported MSU and petitioned for Nebraska to stay in AAU. I dont know that the latter was 'right', but it was the neighborly thing to do after bringing them in.
Michigan is always happy to shit on the conference to spite their nose... then get angry when the Presidents and ADs vote for the more diplomatic school in a Rose Bowl tie (MSU voted for us despite a UM alum being AD).
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It's their own delusional self-image. They don't identify with the other Big Ten publics, and I'm not even sure they consider Northwestern an equal. Sadly, they will never de-ass their heads in our lifetimes.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
It's their own delusional self-image. They don't identify with the other Big Ten publics, and I'm not even sure they consider Northwestern an equal. Sadly, they will never de-ass their heads in our lifetimes.
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I'm honestly not sure if this is reference to scUM or PSU ... pretty sure it's up north, but just thought it funny could be either.
 
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colobuck79 said:
There were actually a couple of good posts there until dipshit came along.
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His response was about how he finds it amazing that the Big Ten "yanked" Joe Paterno's name off the championship trophy and yet they employ Urban Meyer.

And my response to him would be about how Joe Paterno got his name on the trophy to begin with. I've ranted about this before, but that won't stop me from making my point again. The guy won a total of 3 conference championships in about 50 years. And fine - fair enough - he was only in the Big Ten for maybe 18-19 years. Still, that's about 1 championship every 6 years. Jim Tressel's teams won 7 championships in 10 years. The fact that Paterno's name was on the stupid trophy is crazy.
 
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