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Shoot even Gee Scott (who's got better hands) would've been a better option.
It's things like this that should prove coaches aren't infallible. The injury situation all year was not handled properly.
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shetuck
What do you need water for, Sunshine?
I don't disagree... the depth at WR was completely different than at TE, say.
My point is that it's not completely up to the players (regardless of position) if they play when they're hurt or not. The coach is the one who finally makes that call.
Regardless of the depth, or lack thereof, there's a line which should not get crossed.... especially (as you say) putting a player like Stover over and over and over again in the center of critical play calls.
There seems to be some level of "disregard", selectively, by the staff. Not a conspiracy, mind you. Just shallow thinking.
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Yeah, I'd like to say those decisions are always made by medical staff but we've seen too many times (not just OSU) where injured players are sent back out there.
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shetuck
What do you need water for, Sunshine?
In situations like this, I'd imagine that the medical staff are kind of like the quality control guy working at an armaments factory in the middle of an all-out shooting war. Ain't no way in hell that guy is going to be able to keep anything from getting packed and shipped, regardless of how loudly he screams about the shit not being safe to use.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
There is also the chance, and perhaps a pretty good chance given it’s Stover we’re talking about, that he may have under reported the severity. I’ve seen that happen plenty as well. I’m sure that you’ve also seen it with your son’s baseball experience.
But ultimately, you’re right that we have zero information for the entire landscape of what they were dealing with. And the coaches certainly didn’t have the benefit of hindsight to assess the decisions. It’s very easy for us to bitch and moan and suggest that the coaches were putting players in a position to do more harm to themselves or ‘humiliate’ them — which is absolute bullshit — without considering that our perspective is based 100% on hindsight and only partial information.
While I tend to agree with you regarding plays called for Cade… in the event that he was holding back on the scale of the injury, there’s little the coaching staff had beyond what we all saw on the field to adjust away from him. Note his recent response to the media regarding his injury as this being a plausible situation… he keeps shit close and makes zero excuses.
It may turn out that the speculation is accurate, but to suggest that any of us know shit about fuck beyond what we read here or get from other media is a bunch of crap.
Do I wish there were different outcomes? Sure, we all do. And had there been, we wouldn’t be having these conversations. Imagine all the times that there _was_ a different outcome and we never had a discussion about the coaches decisions. Shit… you don’t even have to look far for that, right? Tommy playing with broken hands was treated as him being a fucking warrior. Never fucking once did anyone hint at the poor decisions of the coaching / training staff when putting him on the field when he clearly was not 100%, right?
So, sure… we can be critical, but let’s be fair and rational in our critique.
Edit: Which is where I think you are advocating we should be, @Jaxbuck
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Tanner
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I'm having a hard time getting up for this game. The Michigan loss took a lot out of me lol. I'm also skeptical b/c Day is starting to put together a pattern of his offense not performing in big games. The defense obviously has had big time struggles in big time games too but under Day offense is supposed to be the calling card.
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