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Oversigning (capacity 25, everyone welcome! maybe)

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OSU_D/;1871348; said:
But that is part of where the dirtiness lies; you can't prove a single person wouldn't have made the recruiting class but you know for a fact that oversigning allowed for kids to make it. Your SEC coaches such know that too.
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Actually, that fact - the reality of a JUCO route - is often well known when a player signs his LOI by both the kid and the coach. But they cannot ( or won't) say at the NSD presser "We knew Mike was a dumb ass and would not qualify, but we are happy to place him in JUCO and hopes he picks us in a year." You are correct that you will not have a scorecard going in that lets the fans know what is up, but as the program I am most familiar with is always pushing for early enrollees - they have far more than a casual notion what the kids grades and core courses and ACT scores are by February. And I do not have to "prove" that which is readily observable. Every year there are non-qualifiers in many SEC programs. There is a problem with education in our country caused by many things, but it is readily observable in the quality of athletes from troubled backgrounds that sometimes - make that often - are the good athletes programs want to sign.

"SEC coaches" as a whole are not the problem so much as those who push the limits into fraud, like Saban. I just think that y'all use too broad a brush when complaining of the practices, and too broad a brush when saying who engages in the worst practices.

To that end:

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/02/scarbinsky_alabamas_dont-tell.html
 
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"SEC coaches" as a whole are not the problem so much as those who push the limits into fraud, like Saban. I just think that y'all use too broad a brush when complaining of the practices, and too broad a brush when saying who engages in the worst practices.
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Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Arkansas all have an ugly record of rampant oversigning. Kentucky & Vanderbilt do not field real football teams :lol: (any more than Northwestern's recruiting, tactics & standards are relevant to a b10 football discussion).

Are there exceptions? Sure, but there's also more than enough for the conference to have earned that reputation.
 
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What Northwestern has been able to do(with academics and numbers) is absolutely astonishing! Stanford has also done a remarkable job. Of course neither will ever sniff a BCS Championship. But, kudos to both programs. :bow:
 
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jwinslow;1872008; said:
Bama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Arkansas all have an ugly record of rampant oversigning. Kentucky & Vanderbilt do not field real football teams :lol: (any more than Northwestern's recruiting, tactics & standards are relevant to a b10 football discussion).

Are there exceptions? Sure, but there's also more than enough for the conference to have earned that reputation.
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Fine. Another post where you lose all credibility...










:p
 
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Give it up, gator. You're like a moth to a flame in this thread. Can I get a vbet on what happens sooner.

  1. I click on the Brady Quinn thread and find out that he's been arrested for blowing a dude in a Denver park.
  2. I click on the Joe Paterno thread and find out that he's no longer with us.
  3. I click on the oversigning thread and find no new posts from gator.
 
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jwinslow;1872386; said:
"BFeldmanESPN Bruce Feldman
Two yrs ago, Houston Nutt announced a 38-man signing class: 17 of em are not currently on the roster: 9 were 4-stars or better, 3 remain."
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I'm not sure if that post belongs in the Oversigning thread or a separate, yet to be created, Oversucking thread. Personally, I think Nutt belongs in the latter.
 
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