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OT Isaiah Prince (All B1G, Tennessee Titans)

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Interesting to look at the RT's we've started since Urban's been here 1 true OL until this year
12 - Fragle
13 - Decker
14 - Baldwin
15 - Farris
16 - Prince

first 3 did great... last two need some work
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
Interesting to look at the RT's we've started since Urban's been here 1 true OL until this year
12 - Fragle
13 - Decker
14 - Baldwin
15 - Farris
16 - Prince

first 3 did great... last two need some work
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Good lord I'd do anything to have Baldwin back right now lol...

No excuses for that performance but at the same time we were sort of banking on Pridgeon having a hard look in fall camp and then he got hurt. If we know this information then the staff knows it and if we don't give Prince help then shame on us we deserve everything we get. Again, Id really like to see Bowen be put back at tight end and placed next to Prince to stop the bleeding there. If you give JT enough time even on a two man route someone will eventually get open.

To me Ideally the rest of the year we would keep six into block (all six being offensive lineman) and we would send 4 out on routes. I guarantee you if you give JT 3-4 seconds to scan the field he will find someone open even if they go max protect in the back end, and if they blitz even better.
 
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Hope AJ Alexander has a good bowl practice and is learning the new schemes. Or Noah Brown. Or any other member of the Calvary who answers the call. Heck, it would be a great time for Weber to do his best Zeke impressions and become a potent second level blocker.

We NEED this. Something. Anything.
 
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If we are going to keep our tight ends in to block or our back then IMO who cares about being obvious and put a 6th lineman in. This is exactly what we are talking about when it comes to our offense.

Against NW we faced at the time the leading sack team in the big ten and gave up ZERO sacks by getting help from Bowen. Then we allow Prince to get destroyed again against scum. Find something that works=don't do it again until it bites you in the ass again.

At least put a 6th lineman in on obvious passing downs when you know they're bringing everyone.
 
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I'm not an OL technique expert but when I watch prince, it's not like he's so slow he can't get his hands on a good pass rusher, he gets beat after contact (as it were). I'm hoping that's just a strength and technique issue. I also see him more than hold his own against a lot of guys. All in all, the kid is big as a house and athletic enough (I think) to play T at this level. Not sure why it isn't clicking but I feel like there is reason for optimism there.

On a side note, I feel awful for the kid. You see the look on his face sometimes and know he's just dying out there. It's not like he wants to go out there and fail in front of 100K people, I think he's taking one for the team by playing when he isn't quite ready yet. Pridgeon's injury contributed to this situation and the guys a year older that haven't stepped up should be the ones who feel the worst about watching a true sophomore having to get his teeth kicked in like this and the team suffer for it as well.
 
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I don't understand why they went away from giving him help like Bowen?
If I'm playing against this offense I bring the house until they beat my defense by hitting a big pass play.
Turnovers could well decide the Fiesta Bowl.
 
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I too feel bad for Prince and confidence has just as much to do with it... they need to help him out and if they don't down the stretch here and they leave him out to dry again and we give up similar sack numbers then shame on the staff.

Who cares if it's obvious what you are doing (rolling away from prince, slide protecting to his side, keeping people on his side for help) because everything will be disrupted and fucked if we allow people to cave in our right side.

Side note I firmly believe this has every bit to do with JTs struggles as anything. Against a good pass rushing NW we helped Prince out with Bowen and JT went 21/32 for 225 yards which is perfect.

EVERY game JT struggles in its because he can't even set his damn feet. MSU last year, MSU this year, scum 16, Indiana 16, Penn state in 14 and 16, and even Wisconsin to an extent this year.

Further proof look at the stats of JT In both halves of the Wisconsin game. First half he's under pressure and he doesn't amount to anything and in the second half we sure things up and JT starts to get the ball down field.

QBs will miss open guys once in a while but they're going to miss exponentially when you have a 280 pound defensive end crashing in.

IMO it's not JT, it's not our receivers, and it's not Princes fault. The other teams know we will not help out a struggling offensive line and if we can't pass the ball they KNOW we will be content running JT at them which is what they want. To make us 1 dimensional and for the life of me I do not understand our stubbornness with things.

I give it to our defensive staff they seem to adjust better this year and IMO it's because of Greg. When teams went heavy on us this year after the Wisconsin game we put in a extra backer and took off a DB. When people put their play maker in the slot we put Conley there and brought in Ward to man outside.

So why has the offense lagged behind in figuring out how to counter people?
 
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