• Follow us on Twitter @buckeyeplanet and @bp_recruiting, like us on Facebook! Enjoy a post or article, recommend it to others! BP is only as strong as its community, and we only promote by word of mouth, so share away!
  • Consider registering! Fewer and higher quality ads, no emails you don't want, access to all the forums, download game torrents, private messages, polls, Sportsbook, etc. Even if you just want to lurk, there are a lot of good reasons to register!

OSU/PSU LB Depth (split from Dorian Bell thread)

Jump to latest Follow Reply
Sort by date Sort by votes

ePkOoTms

Banned
BuckTwenty;1136210; said:
It's hard to read that and think you're taking a shot at our LB depth, and coming from a PSU fan who still thinks his school is LB U, I'm sure it is. In this day and age in the upper echelon of college football, it is awfully hard for a true freshman to come in and start from the first game on, and he'd be hard pressed to come into a situation where he would be able to do that.

If he can beat out Tyler Moeller, Brian Rolle, and Jermale Hines to be the starter on the strongside in 2009, that's awesome, but nobody is banking on it. He won't be coming to Ohio State because there is a lack of depth, because we have never been this deep at LB in my lifetime. He'll be coming to Ohio State so he can win Big Ten and national championships... something he won't be able to do at Penn State for the forseeable future.
Click to expand...

It is pretty clear to see that shots were being taken at Penn State and the Penn State LB corps for no reason whatsoever. I don't even care if Penn State gets bashed over here because it is obviously an Ohio State recruiting board but if the bashing is necessary there could atleast be an attempt to keep the outlandish statements to a minimum. I'm not trying to clutter this thread or hijack it, but Penn State has more than a "few other guys". And the only starting LB from Ohio State that would start at Penn State is JL - the other two [Terry and whoever else would be on the bench]...likely behind our 2nd string LBs - the 2nd and 3rd string tOSU LBs certainly would not be starting at Penn State. As I clearly illustrated, your depth is not far from superior compared to Penn State...and certainly nowhere near FAR superior.

S&G:

1. Penn State has Lee and a few other guys, while Ohio State has insane depth at the LB position. Penn State has 9 four star linebackers, 8 with at least 3 years of eligibility [5 with 4 years]. That is not including 4* Tyrell Sales, 4* Sean Lee.

2. Just made me laugh when he said he was worried about depth issues at Penn State and then you look at our depth chart. Its really night and day our second and third stringers could start there. No knock on Penn State but thats the kind of talent we have here. :rofl:With the exception of lee who is senior know one else really jumps out at me. Chris Colasanti will in '08, starting MLB. You haven't even seen 6 of them get on the field yet so it would be hard for them to 'jump out' at you.

3. Where if he went to Penn State i would be surprised if he didn't start next year for them. You would be surprised then. Don't get me wrong i think he will end up with S&G ME TOO but even with us graduating three senior starters our depth is far superior to Penn State Bullsh** or any team in the Big Ten.

I think you guys will get Dorian Bell though, and I don't think he will have any trouble beating out the the two guys in front of him because they are undersized [6'1-6' 205-215] and won't have the chance to emerge because you have 3 senior LBs starting. He'll certainly be a great pick up for tOSU and is definitely a loss for Penn State but unfortunately an in-state loss we can afford. If he was a WR or QB or OT I would consider tOSU a plague but we will live.
 
ePkOoTms;1136406; said:
It is pretty clear to see that shots were being taken at Penn State and the Penn State LB corps for no reason whatsoever. I don't even care if Penn State gets bashed over here because it is obviously an Ohio State recruiting board but if the bashing is necessary there could atleast be an attempt to keep the outlandish statements to a minimum. I'm not trying to clutter this thread or hijack it, but Penn State has more than a "few other guys". And the only starting LB from Ohio State that would start at Penn State is JL - the other two [Terry and whoever else would be on the bench]...likely behind our 2nd string LBs - the 2nd and 3rd string tOSU LBs certainly would not be starting at Penn State. As I clearly illustrated, your depth is not far from superior compared to Penn State...and certainly nowhere near FAR superior.

S&G:

1. Penn State has Lee and a few other guys, while Ohio State has insane depth at the LB position. Penn State has 9 four star linebackers, 8 with at least 3 years of eligibility [5 with 4 years]. That is not including 4* Tyrell Sales, 4* Sean Lee.

2. Just made me laugh when he said he was worried about depth issues at Penn State and then you look at our depth chart. Its really night and day our second and third stringers could start there. No knock on Penn State but thats the kind of talent we have here. :rofl:With the exception of lee who is senior know one else really jumps out at me. Chris Colasanti will in '08, starting MLB. You haven't even seen 6 of them get on the field yet so it would be hard for them to 'jump out' at you.

3. Where if he went to Penn State i would be surprised if he didn't start next year for them. You would be surprised then. Don't get me wrong i think he will end up with S&G ME TOO but even with us graduating three senior starters our depth is far superior to Penn State Bullsh** or any team in the Big Ten.

I think you guys will get Dorian Bell though, and I don't think he will have any trouble beating out the the two guys in front of him because they are undersized [6'1-6' 205-215] and won't have the chance to emerge because you have 3 senior LBs starting. He'll certainly be a great pick up for tOSU and is definitely a loss for Penn State but unfortunately an in-state loss we can afford. If he was a WR or QB or OT I would consider tOSU a plague but we will live.
Click to expand...

Marcus Freeman wouldn't start at PSU this year?
 
Upvote 0
I understand you defending the "Lee and a few other guys" statement, ePkOoTms. (btw, if I ever type out your username again, don't expect me to follow the case pattern.) But I wouldn't trade our linebacking corps for any other team out there.

If Bell chose to come here, he would have to earn his playing time. Of course, that can be said for anywhere. If he's looking at successful teams, then each team he's looking at will probably be deep at the linebacker position. I have to think that Ohio State graduating three linebackers is a plus, whether we're deep behind the seniors or not.
 
Upvote 0
ePkOoTms;1136406; said:
It is pretty clear to see that shots were being taken at Penn State and the Penn State LB corps for no reason whatsoever. I don't even care if Penn State gets bashed over here because it is obviously an Ohio State recruiting board but if the bashing is necessary there could atleast be an attempt to keep the outlandish statements to a minimum. I'm not trying to clutter this thread or hijack it, but Penn State has more than a "few other guys". And the only starting LB from Ohio State that would start at Penn State is JL - the other two [Terry and whoever else would be on the bench]...likely behind our 2nd string LBs - the 2nd and 3rd string tOSU LBs certainly would not be starting at Penn State. As I clearly illustrated, your depth is not far from superior compared to Penn State...and certainly nowhere near FAR superior.

S&G:

1. Penn State has Lee and a few other guys, while Ohio State has insane depth at the LB position. Penn State has 9 four star linebackers, 8 with at least 3 years of eligibility [5 with 4 years]. That is not including 4* Tyrell Sales, 4* Sean Lee.

2. Just made me laugh when he said he was worried about depth issues at Penn State and then you look at our depth chart. Its really night and day our second and third stringers could start there. No knock on Penn State but thats the kind of talent we have here. :rofl:With the exception of lee who is senior know one else really jumps out at me. Chris Colasanti will in '08, starting MLB. You haven't even seen 6 of them get on the field yet so it would be hard for them to 'jump out' at you.

3. Where if he went to Penn State i would be surprised if he didn't start next year for them. You would be surprised then. Don't get me wrong i think he will end up with S&G ME TOO but even with us graduating three senior starters our depth is far superior to Penn State Bullsh** or any team in the Big Ten.

I think you guys will get Dorian Bell though, and I don't think he will have any trouble beating out the the two guys in front of him because they are undersized [6'1-6' 205-215] and won't have the chance to emerge because you have 3 senior LBs starting. He'll certainly be a great pick up for tOSU and is definitely a loss for Penn State but unfortunately an in-state loss we can afford. If he was a WR or QB or OT I would consider tOSU a plague but we will live.
Click to expand...

Stop defending your team and start explaining why Bell would start here as a freshman. That is the subject of the post you quoted, after all.

Last time I checked, stars only meant something if the players developed. Bell certainly has the stars, but he'll still be a freshman. Say what you want about OSU's depth, but it's certainly not as bad as you think it is. Bell is a fantastic player and I'd love to have him, but you just don't join a top 10 recruiting school and start as a true freshman. We're not bringing in slouches every year.

And did you really say that Marcus Freeman would sit behind your second-string LBs? Weren't you the one who said keep the outlandish statements to a minimum?!?! You didn't even know his name; I have a hard time taking your PSU/OSU LB comparisons seriously. No offense intended, I just have no other way to say it, really. You certainly did not illustrate much in terms of superiority, like you stated, or even equality. You'd have to know both schools' LBs for that to happen. :)
 
Upvote 0
ePkOoTms;1136406; said:
And the only starting LB from Ohio State that would start at Penn State is JL - the other two [Terry and whoever else would be on the bench]...likely behind our 2nd string LBs
Click to expand...

:slappy:
 
Upvote 0
CleveBucks;1136570; said:
Whoever else (Marcus Freeman) only had a forced fumble and 14 tackles, including 10 solo and 2 for loss, against PSU last year.
Click to expand...
He goes off on us for referring to Sean Lee and a few other guys, and doesn't even know our 2-year starter who had a monster game. :lol:
 
Upvote 0
ePkOoTms;1136128; said:
Good stuff re: Penn State LBs, S&G... :crazy::rofl:

Dorian Bell would have quite an uphill battle if he wanted to start as a freshman at Penn State, however I believe he likely does end up at tOSU and will likely start as a freshman. You'll likely lose your entire 'starting' LB corp in '08 because of the LB with the foot injury [Terry?] likely starting, JL, and whatever other senior gets stuck in there. Penn State will presumably have 2 senior LBs, Sean Lee & Tyrell Sales. Presumably, because Sales is likely to split time if not lose his starting outside spot all together. So guys are going to be seeing time this year at LB, and a true sophomore in Chris Colasanti will be manning the middle with Lee staying outside.

Michael Mauti 4* Louisiana true freshman
Michael Zordich 4* Ohio true freshman
Mike Yancich 4* Pennsylvania true freshman
Brandon Beachum 4* Ohio true freshman [if RB/FB doesn't work out...he'll get his shot at RB as a change of pace/situational rusher in '08]

Chris Colasanti 4* Michigan true sophomore
Nathan Stupar 4* Pennsylvania redshirt freshman
Andrew Dailey 4* Ohio redshirt freshman

Navarro Bowman 4* Maryland redshirt sophomore
Bani Gbadyu 4* Maryland redshirt sophomore

Jerome Hayes 4* New Jersey redshirt Junior [DE, recovering from torn ACL against Wisconsin '07 - could and likely will move to OLB as a senior in '09]

That is NINE FOUR STAR LINEBACKERS...SEVEN if you don't include Hayes on the DL as a true Junior/rs Junior '08 or Brandon Beachum.

That isn't including 4* Sean Lee who is a starter. 4* Tyrell Sales who is likely going to split time. tOSU is going to be starting 3 senior LBs, were going to be starting 1 senior LB full time while RETAINING NINE FOUR STAR LINEBACKERS who are expected to be nothing other than LBs while at Penn State. Your depth at LB is not superior to Penn State's in anyway, with the exception of one 5* LB you've gotten and the other 5* JUCO LB you've had in the past. Add 2 or 3 more LBs not named Dorian Bell for Penn State in '09 and it is easy to see why Bell doesn't want to wait his turn. Dan Mason, Glenn Carson, Carlo Calabrese, Jelani Jenkins, Telvion Clark, Mike Privott, Gerald Hodges, Brandon Killebrew, Jerod Askew...there are many LB prospects out there.

Sorry for taking the focus off of Dorian Bell. He is obviously a great player, but he is a player who believes he is ready to start as a freshman...he knows how to read a depth chart and anyone who looks at all three LB positions and the players who have yet to even get on the field knows it is going to be a dogfight. Colasanti is a lock to start and will likely emerge in the middle, Bani Gbadyu and/or Navarro Bowman are likely to split time with Tyrell Sales so by the time the '08 season is over LBs will have emerged; tOSU will be replacing all three starting LBs and in '08 it will largely be dominated by senior starters.
Click to expand...
First off rankings don't mean a damn thing. JL was a three star A.J hawk was like a two star fullback. We have a ton of four star guys behind the seniors as well. So i don't really see what you are saying. Yeah Penn State has alot of young talent who might see the field this year. Where TOSU starts three seniors but we also rotate guys in and out. So they will see the field, and they have experience. Spitler will be a senior nxt year and Rolle, homan, hines, moeller will all be juniors. You guys got some young talent mostly freshman. Yancich, beachum, zordich, mauti. None of which were good enough to obtain a ship from TOSU except zordich who went to State because of his dad. And even with that group I'LL take sweat and Sabino over those four anytime. So you can say whatever you want to say buddy but you Guys will never be anything more than a second tier big ten team. So with that said i think Bell ends up at TOSU but give me a break he won't start at TOSU as a freshmen. He can make the two-deep and see the field alot but start I don't think so. Now Penn State thats a different story and you know it. TOSU is the real linebacker U NOT penn state. I rest my case.:oh::io:
 
Upvote 0
ePKOoTms that is also assuming those guys arn't kicked off the team by this year or nxt. Isn't Bowman off the team. I could be wrong, it's kind of hard to keep track off all the suspensions and arrest you guys have had recently. Your program is a mess.:oh::io:
 
Upvote 0
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top