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Oregon Ducks (aka U of Nike)

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OHSportsFan said:
So, some 1-AA kid officially transferred to the Oregon Ducks, and I guess we're supposed to crown their asses already?
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Mariota was arguably the best player in program history, and their talent level was as high as it's ever been this past season, and they still couldn't get it done. If Mariota couldn't get them over the hump, I have a hard time seeing them ever do it.

I'm pretty sure they'll continue to be in the playoff hunt for the foreseeable future, as long as they run that goofy system and have the Nike machine backing them. But, when they run into teams in January that are on the same plane talent-wise, and have the ability to punch them in the mouth, I fully expect them to continue falling short. Herbie and the e!spn hype machine can continue to lament them being called "soft", but the fact is, when they run into a big boy team capable of smacking them in the mouth, they almost always falter.
 
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NFBuck said:
Mariota was arguably the best player in program history, and their talent level was as high as it's ever been this past season, and they still couldn't get it done. If Mariota couldn't get them over the hump, I have a hard time seeing them ever do it.

I'm pretty sure they'll continue to be in the playoff hunt for the foreseeable future, as long as they run that goofy system and have the Nike machine backing them. But, when they run into teams in January that are on the same plane talent-wise, and have the ability to punch them in the mouth, I fully expect them to continue falling short. Herbie and the e!spn hype machine can continue to lament them being called "soft", but the fact is, when they run into a big boy team capable of smacking them in the mouth, they almost always falter.
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conspiracy theory!
 
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Totally not soft:
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Very skrong:
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I think it's more than just hitting them in the mouth though that's certainly part of their weakness. When Oregon realized that Ohio State was going to match them step-for-step with speed AND the defense wasn't going to get winded keeping up with their tempo, you could literally see them deflate....almost give up.

It's a great system for beating up on lesser talented, slower teams, but when they meet up with somebody who is just as fast and talented and a hell of a lot tougher to boot, they just can't keep it up for much more than a half.
 
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NFBuck said:
I'd say much of it is their system.
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Certainly not disagreeing with this. It absolutely is their system. They benefit from that playstyle and they shouldn't apologize for it.

But if you think about it, most teams' successes have been in part due to a system. I'd say that Oregon has benefited from it more than most. I'd also include Mike Leach's Texas Tech teams from a few years ago. But it sounds like people are marginalizing teams' successes when they label it as due to a system. Ohio State has a system, and it is run very well by its current players. I can't speak as to whether it is run that way because that's the players Ohio State has, or if Ohio State has those players because of the system. Ohio State's system tries to take advantage of individual mismatches by spreading the defense out. Other teams might try to take advantage of overall team mismatches by grouping the defense together and trying to run right over the defense.

Oregon's system just happens to be that they're trying to take advantage of the defense not being ready for the snap. I think this takes away from "Our team is better than your team" or even "Our wide receiver was able to consistently beat your defender" and makes it more "Your defense wasn't quick enough to be ready for the next play". I think it's less traditional football, and more exploitative than football should be. But, as the saying goes, "If you don't like it, stop us." Ohio State certainly did, and I wouldn't bet that this gimmicky system will ever find its way to be national champions.
 
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