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Oldest U.S. WWI Vet Dies in Toledo

shetuck

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most touching part is it says that, "He delivered newspapers as a youngster and would read the paper to immigrants, his daughter said. 'That was the beginning of him being a teacher,' she said."

Rest well...

Toledo Blade

Dec 21, 10:05 AM EST


Oldest U.S. WWI Vet Dies in Ohio at 109

By JOHN SEEWER
Associated Press Writer


AP Photo/Madalyn Ruggiero


TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) -- J. Russell Coffey, the oldest known surviving U.S. veteran of World War I, has died. The retired teacher, one of only three U.S. veterans from the "war to end all wars," was 109.

Coffey died Thursday at the Briar Hill Health Campus in North Baltimore, where he had lived for the past four or five years, said Gaye Boggs, nursing director at the nursing home. No cause of death has been determined, she said Friday. His health began failing in October.

More than 4.7 million Americans joined the military from 1917-1918. Coffey never saw combat because he was still in basic training when the war ended.

The two remaining U.S. veterans are Frank Buckles, 106, of Charles Town, W.Va.; and Harry Richard Landis, 108, of Sun City Center, Fla., according to the Veterans Affairs Department. In addition, John Babcock, 107, of Spokane, Wash., served in the Canadian army and is the last known Canadian veteran of the war.

Coffey once confided to his daughter, Betty Jo Larsen, that he wished people would remember his contributions rather than his old age. "He told me 'even a prune can get old,'" she said last spring. She died in September.

Coffey had enlisted in the Army while he was a student at Ohio State University in October 1918, a month before the Allied powers and Germany signed a cease-fire agreement. He was discharged a month after the war ended.

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The dude obviously lived a full life, but is it really accurate to call him a veteran of WWI? He enlisted in Oct. 1918 and the Treaty of Versailles was signed in June 1919 so he was probably discharged in July 1919 while he was still in basic training. Does that really qualify him to be a WWI veteran if he didn't even finish basic training? Just seems to me like it takes something away from those veterans who finished basic training and were shipped overseas (like his brothers) or served stateside, even if they didn't see action.
 
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Brewtus;1035468; said:
The dude obviously lived a full life, but is it really accurate to call him a veteran of WWI? He enlisted in Oct. 1918 and the Treaty of Versailles was signed in June 1919 so he was probably discharged in July 1919 while he was still in basic training. Does that really qualify him to be a WWI veteran if he didn't even finish basic training? Just seems to me like it takes something away from those veterans who finished basic training and were shipped overseas (like his brothers) or served stateside, even if they didn't see action.

so if you never get shipped, you're not a true veteran? :shake:

i think a BUNCH of people would take issue with that notion. it's the same notion that women who have served in the armed forces, and who did not see "action", have had to deal with, unfortunately.

well, i'm no military historian, but i thinking, legally the end of WWI wasn't until the signing of the treaty of lusanne in 1923. there were allied forces in turkey until that point, though to be sure, i don't know if there were americans among those forces.

in either case, i still salute him, not just because he's a buckeye, but because he enlisted to serve his country.
 
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Brewtus;1035468; said:
The dude obviously lived a full life, but is it really accurate to call him a veteran of WWI? He enlisted in Oct. 1918 and the Treaty of Versailles was signed in June 1919 so he was probably discharged in July 1919 while he was still in basic training. Does that really qualify him to be a WWI veteran if he didn't even finish basic training? Just seems to me like it takes something away from those veterans who finished basic training and were shipped overseas (like his brothers) or served stateside, even if they didn't see action.

As he has a Bachelor and Masters degree from Ohio State, I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.:biggrin:

Honestly, dude enlisted... on his own... that he didn't get shot at- or whatever- isn't his fault. Not like the guy is trading on phony war hero status.
 
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shetuck;1035500; said:
so if you never get shipped, you're not a true veteran? :shake:
That's not what I wrote, I agree that he should be considered a veteran of the Army but is it also correct to consider him a veteran of WWI?
shetuck;1035500; said:
i think a BUNCH of people would take issue with that notion. it's the same notion that women who have served in the armed forces, and who did not see "action", have had to deal with, unfortunately.
And I specifically stated that those who finished basic training, served stateside and didn't see action should still be considered veterans of WWI.
shetuck;1035500; said:
well, i'm no military historian, but i thinking, legally the end of WWI wasn't until the signing of the treaty of lusanne in 1923. there were allied forces in turkey until that point, though to be sure, i don't know if there were americans among those forces.
The article doesn't state when he was discharged but I seriously doubt he was in basic training for over 4 years.
shetuck;1035500; said:
in either case, i still salute him, not just because he's a buckeye, but because he enlisted to serve his country.
Agreed. Nothing against him as he obviously wanted to serve his country but I just think the term "WWI Veteran" takes something away from those who made greater sacrifices and served after completing basic training.
 
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