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OL Orlando Pace (7-time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl Champion, CFB HOF, NFL HOF)

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Coopers right hand man in recruiting was Conley, cooper agreed with everything he did. I think cooper made more changes in his coaching staff during his tenure. But you have to admit they did have some good offensive line personell during the time he was there. I think this is the only hang up in Tressels staff. And Tressel has been know to be pretty stubborn at times.
 
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My thoughts about Coach Cooper (I still think of Earl as Coach Bruce):


1.) Over achiever as a recruiter,
2.) Average as a coach,
3.) & under achiever as a "big game" coach.


He drove me nuts 2 or 3 games each season, but he provided teams that still made me proud to be a Buckeye (usually...Kenyon Rambo and Reggie Germany didn't exactly whell me up with what I'd call pride)


EDIT: Instead of "Over achiever" as a recruiter, I should say "Above average" is more appropriate wording.
 
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Huh?

John Cooper is a buckeye. If he weren't he wouldnt be living in Columbus. He sucked in bowls and had major issues with that evil empire up north. But, he is also the 2nd winningest coach in OSU history. You can dislike Coop for loosing all those games to scUM but to ignore the good he did for tOSU is to be ignorant of his accomplishments at OSU.
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He is also responsible for taking our recruiting national and sending a ton of players to the NFL. Did I like losing to Michigan and the bowls, No but he gave us some really great thrills...
 
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Cooper is a Buckeye. He couldn't win the big ames, but that doesn't mean he isn't a Buckeye. Being a Buckeye has nothing to do with being good, or bad.

Are the walkons, and 3rd teamers not Buckeyes because they don't play?

As for calling him coach, that is out of respect.
Everyone calls an Ex-President. Mr. President.

So the answer to your question is no!
 
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iambrutus said:
cooper "coach cooper" seeing that and hearing it on TV makes my stomach sick i hate that worthless two bit hack (good coach for 8-9 games, then LOSER) You MUST be from OHIO/SCUM to really KNOW what that game means and he never did
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Why do you still refer to past presidents as Mr. President?

Coop was a coach here, he will always be referred to as Coach Cooper, just like how I still call my old high school coach "Coach".
 
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iambrutus seems to forget that the 1996 team has as fair a claim to the national title that year as does Florida (both were one loss teams) Iambrutus seems to forget the 1995 that, while faltering at the end, was one of the most exciting teams to watch - at one point in the season OSU had 3 legit Heisman candidates (Hoying, Glenn and of course Eddie) Iambrutus seems to forget the great 1998 team. Should FSU played Tenn for the title? BCS said yes, but I think as good a case could have been made for OSU. I guess what I'm saying is, acknowledging that Coop never "got the job done" in the ultimate sense, he provided OSU fans some of the best teams to watch OSU has ever had. His run from 1993 through 1998 was impressive... if Shawn Springs didn't slip, he'd have a title. If OSU didn't lose a 24-7 lead over MSU, he'd have 2.

Coop may not have been a Buckeye when he got here, but he sure as hell is now.
 
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This is why I love this place!!!

Brutus,

I generally enjoy your posts, but obviously you made a poor one here. I love the well thought out responses to your opinion. I may have missed it but I have yet to see you called a douchebag in this thread ala BN. I will be the first to admit Coach Cooper is responsible for some of the gray hair I have, but I would also say that during his entire tenure here we fielded highly competitive, exciting teams. When Earle was fired there were no tears shed in my house, same with Coop. Sometimes it is just time to go, but that does not change what either of them did for the school. Even when Woody left most people wanted him gone. It's amazing how time can change peoples memory. I for one respect Coach Cooper and feel happy we had him, and I would imagine over time he will be embraced more and more. I would also imagine there are about 110 other schools out there who would have loved to have the record we had while he was here.

Douchebag:biggrin:
 
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I agree that COACH Cooper will always be coach in my mind. Now I'm glad he's gone don't get me wrong but only because he couldn't win the last 2 games of the year. Other than that he brought alot to this university and more importantly the football program
 
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