Oklahoma 33, OREGON 34 (final)

[Saw31]

Oh Jeezus Christ...None of this is going to get me my vMoney back!!!

 

[methomps]

Difference between TV "feeds" and the having the same access. Of course you don't want some color commentor's telestrater drawings and shit on the replay image nor the commens of him or the play-by-play guy, but the ref should be able to see all the angles that are shown to the viewing audience.

As I said, the rule already proscribes this:

http://www.pac-10.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/080805aac.html

Source: All reviewable video will come direct from the televised production of the game. In the event the game is not being televised on a live or delayed basis, the video will come from the in-house video board production.

Yeah, but I was pretty hammered by the end of the first quarter...

Well, that was a game where instant replay was unavailable for stretches of the game due to malfunction.

I'm not sure what you're saying here...

new clock rules

Not even close to being the same thing. There is no association at all between the responsibilities of being a coach and the right of a fan to be pissed off when his/her team gets hosed.

There is also a difference between what a coach can handle and the cost/benefit analysis of putting that burden on him.

So my "theory" is trumped by your "reallity". Tell me, how many refs have told you that they base any of their calls on whether or not there could be a replay?

I guess steroids isn't a problem in sports because we tell athletes not to do it and I have not seen any athletes take steroids.

 

[sandgk]

And ESPN's Forde chips in - with the pithy closing about earlier OU President George Cross asking for more state funding because "I would like to build a university which the football team can be proud of."
ESPN

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Presidentially Preposterous[/FONT]
The Dash understands why Sooner Nation (2) lost its collective mind after the officiating fiasco at the end of the Oregon game, which was won by the Ducks 34-33. The non-call on the onside kick stunk. The inept review of the call was worse. The Pac-10's one-game suspension of the offending officials was completely justified. But the Oklahoma reaction has become an overreaction. In fact, it has transitioned from righteous indignation to outright insanity.
The actions of school president David Boren (3) make you wonder whether he isn't actually the booster club president instead of the guy running an institution of higher learning. The former governor and U.S. senator pushed out his pouty lip and dashed off a petulant letter to Big 12 commissioner Kevin Weiberg (4) that is embarrassing on multiple levels. "? The Big 12 should request that the game should not go into the record books as a win or a loss by either team in light of the level of officiating mistakes," Boren's letter said.
And strike the Kansas City Royals' 1985 World Series title from the record books because of that terrible call at first base by Don Denkinger, too!
"It is truly sad and deeply disappointing that members of our football team should be deprived of the outcome of the game that they deserved because of an inexcusable breakdown in officiating," Boren concluded.
What's truly sad and deeply disappointing to The Dash is the fact that Boren should have such an inexcusable breakdown in perspective.
Is there really nothing better for the president to do at the University of Oklahoma? Like, maybe check in on the college of arts and sciences? Or, if he's that terribly concerned about the football program, perhaps he could lend a hand to the compliance office and help monitor players' jobs at local car dealerships. Y'know, make sure they actually show up and do some work.
If the president can put down his pompon for a minute, he'll realize a couple of things:
1. Bad calls happen. In every game. A few times a year, they can play a critical role in a game's outcome. Are we going to set a precedent of presidential hissy fits after each critical blown call?
2. The game did not end on this bad call. Oklahoma still had the lead, still had a chance to win. It didn't get the job done.
But instead of absorbing this as an object lesson -- life is not fair, but you have to deal with it -- the school president is setting the sore-loser tone.
Coach Bob Stoops (5) went off shortly after Boren, all but declaring the officials and the Pac-10 unforgiven for the damage done to Oklahoma's season. (Bob: You can still win the Big 12 title and go to a BCS bowl. And you weren't going to win anybody's national championship anyway. You might have sustained the illusion for another few weeks by winning this game, but it wasn't going to happen.)
When asked about Boren's letter, Stoops thanked the prez for taking time away from reviewing game film to join in the bitchfest.
"We have a great administration," Stoops said. "President Boren is the absolute best president a head coach can have."
Clearly. The question is whether he's the best president a math professor can have.
Then again, maybe Boren is simply following presidential precedent at Oklahoma. It was OU prez George Cross who once explained to the state legislature a need for more funding because, "I would like to build a university which the football team can be proud of."
In closing, The Dash will take the obnoxious step of quoting itself, just to help the honorable president Boren. This was from an August column enumerating 23 new rules of conduct for college football fans:

If the scoreboard says you lost, you lost. That's not going to change. Take an hour to vent postgame, then try to regain your sanity. Do not diminish your quality of life -- and the quality of life of those around you -- by spewing for days about the refs who cheated your team, the flagrant league bias against your team or the complete lack of class displayed by the team that beat your team. Your team l-o-s-t. Try to deal.​

 

[Thump]

Don't know about the rest of you guys but Pat Forde knows his shit.

Probably my favorite college football writer.

 

[BB73]

Comments about Oklahoma still having the opportunity to win the game have some validity, but they ignore the fact that if the onsides kick had been awarded to Oklahoma (by the contact before 10 yards), they only would have had to take 3 knees and the game was over. (I think there were 72 seconds left, and the clock would start on the change of possession with the new rule, so unless Oregon had all 3 timeouts left, and I don't believe they did, taking 3 knees kills the clock).

But the President shouldn't be the one complaining, they should have let the AD do that.

Also, from the comments of the replay official, it seems that the concern over keeping the game moving is getting more priority than getting the calls correct. That's what needs to change - get the calls right, don't worry about whether you're delaying the game by 30 seconds or a minute.

 

[buckeyeboy]

This game was a paradigm of why officials have absolutely no business taking part in an interconference game, one team of which belongs to the conference with which the officials are themselves associated. It's garbage like this that undermines the fairness of college football.

 

[sandgk]

This game was a paradigm of why officials have absolutely no business taking part in an interconference game, one team of which belongs to the conference with which the officials are themselves associated. It's garbage like this that undermines the fairness of college football.

As long as the whole thing is done in a reciprocal manner I see no problem with the officials being either from the conference visiting, or from the hosting conference. Just be consistent. Like I said earlier, if the OU Administration wants to be taken seriously in this then renounce your win in Norman tainted as it surely must have been by your own conference officials wearing the Zebra stripes that day.

 

[jlb1705]

Well, apparently Mike Bellotti has apologized now. What a bunch of phony, PC bullshit!

If he was really sorry, he would've forfeited the game or told his players to stop trying once all the bad calls started happening.

He's not REALLY sorry - and nor should he be. That's football, and to think that Bob Stoops or any other coach would do anything differently from what Oregon has done is fooling themselves.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

Well, apparently Mike Bellotti has apologized now. What a bunch of phony, PC bullshit!

If he was really sorry, he would've forfeited the game or told his players to stop trying once all the bad calls started happening.

He's not REALLY sorry - and nor should he be. That's football, and to think that Bob Stoops or any other coach would do anything differently from what Oregon has done is fooling themselves.

Apologize for what? He didn't even make the call or review. Same with us Oregon fans, what the fuck do we have to apologize for? We didn't review the call.

 

[Buckeye86]

Apologize for what? He didn't even make the call or review. Same with us Oregon fans, what the fuck do we have to apologize for? We didn't review the call.

Well, you are ducks, and ducks float, just like wood, and witches are made of wood, so therefore you must BURN!

 

[buckeyeboy]

Apologize for what? He didn't even make the call or review. Same with us Oregon fans, what the fuck do we have to apologize for? We didn't review the call.

As I said above, the game was complete BS and made me sick to be a college football fan. That being said, you're completely right that Oregon and their coach need not apologize. The refs and the Pac-10 are the ones who should be ashamed of themselves for letting this happen, not the Oregon players who were simply trying to win the game and were the recipients of a gift from the refs.

 

[Saw31]

Well, you are ducks, and ducks float, just like wood, and witches are made of wood, so therefore you must BURN!

Burn Her! Burn Her!

 

[bkochmc]

Pac-10 grants replay official Riese leave of absence

CNNSI

Stepping out of the limelight

Pac-10 grants replay official Riese leave of absence

Posted: Wednesday September 20, 2006 6:33PM; Updated: Wednesday September 20, 2006 6:37PM

WALNUT CREEK, Calif. (AP) -- The instant replay official whose failure to overturn a bad call helped Oregon beat Oklahoma has been granted a leave of absence for the remainder of the football season by the Pac-10.
The league announced Wednesday that official Gordon Riese, who has already been suspended for a game by the Pac-10, requested a leave of absence.
Because Pac-10 replay officials work in crews, replay assistant Roger Judd also will not work any more games this season.
"Gordon Riese had a distinguished 28-year career as a Pac-10 official and, with the exception of Saturday, had done a fine job as a replay official," Pac-10 commissioner Tom Hansen said. "He is an individual with impeccable officiating credentials and unquestioned integrity. We look forward to his return next season."
Riese has said he was "struggling" with missing the call.
"I feel so bad I missed that call, it's driving me crazy," he said.
In the final minutes of Oregon's 34-33 comeback victory over Oklahoma, the Ducks recovered an onside kick that set up what turned out to be the winning touchdown.
Oregon's recovery of the onside kick should have been disallowed because the Ducks touched the ball before it went the required 10 yards.

 

[iambrutus]

ok, so did oregon get points just from getting the onside kick? NO, choklahoma still had to play defense. i really think we need to get our big ten brothers up in wisconsin to send OU some cheese to go with all of their whine. they need to just face the fact that the game is over and all of the bitching in the world isn't going to change the outcome.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

I'm still amazed at how bad OU's defense has been this year. Phil Steele even touted them as having the #1 defense in the nation this year.