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Oklahoma 33, OREGON 34 (final)

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Death threats to the replay official...

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- The instant replay official whose failure to overturn a bad call led to a narrow Oregon victory over Oklahoma said Monday he feels like he is under siege after threatening phone calls, including a death threat.

Gordon Riese said he would make a decision soon about whether to finish the season, or even whether to return next year.
"I'm struggling with it," Riese said in an interview at his home. "I feel so bad I missed that call, it's driving me crazy."
A former college baseball pitcher in the 1960s who was inducted into the Portland State Hall of Fame in 1997, Riese said he never played football but always enjoyed the game during 28 years as a Pacific-10 Conference official.
"I loved it, I absolutely loved it," Riese said.
But that was before he became an instant replay official.
"I've felt much, much more pressure as an instant replay official than I ever did on the field," Riese said.
He said the equipment is not as sophisticated as NFL replay equipment, and does not allow the official to freeze the frame. But Riese lays the blame on himself after replays showed that an onside kick was touched by an Oregon player before it had traveled the required 10 yards. The Ducks went on to score the go-ahead touchdown.
"I can't sleep, I can't eat, my blood pressure is skyrocketing," Riese said, looking haggard and worn as he sat on the front porch of his house.
His wife is a registered nurse, and has been checking his blood pressure every four hours, he said.
Riese said he has stopped answering the phone, and police are investigating the threatening calls while keeping an eye on his neighborhood.
"They not only threatened me, they threatened my wife and kids," Riese said.
Riese has endured plenty of physical pain in his career. He said a torn rotator cuff ended his pitching days, all the ligaments in his right knee were torn when he was hit by an Oregon defensive back at Autzen Stadium in a 1984 game against Washington State, and he suffered a separated collarbone when he was run over by opposing linemen trying to block each other in the 2005 Fiesta Bowl.
The knee and the collarbone still bother him, occasionally, he said.
But not as much as his ruling from the booth last Saturday, Riese said.
"I don't know how to deal with it," he said. "I guess it's just one of those things."
 
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Bucky Katt;610906; said:
Not enough. Anyone else (other than politicians:wink2: ) displaying that kind of incompetence would be fired. These dipshits shouldn't have jobs.

But if they did that it would set a precedent. They'd have to reverse several Rose Bowl games in which the Big 10 got screwed by Pac 8/10 refs. This is one of the things that concerns me about using bowl games to determine the BCS or in the development of a playoff system.

Not so long ago Michigan defeated Illinois when they were given a fifth down, got a first down and went on to score. If the Illini had been given the ball there is little doubt they would have run the clock out. Illinois protested, the Big 10 stated it was a fifth down and apologized and Michigan refused to concede the game. Were the shoe on the other foot I doubt that Boren of OU would be so concerned about the outcome.
 
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The replay official was a line judge on the field for the 'Stanford band' game in 1982. And he was truly 'on the field', having been knocked down on the play:

si.com

Oklahoma's loss to Oregon wasn't the first time replay official Gordon Riese has been involved in controversy. On Nov. 20, 1982, he was the line judge when California defeated Stanford on arguably the most controversial finish in college football history. Cal won the game on a crazy kickoff return. In 2002, Riese told the San Jose Mercury News he wasn't in position to call an illegal forward lateral because he had been run over by the on-rushing Stanford band.
-- Los Angeles Times
 
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Excerpts from Fiu's Cavalcade if Whimsy. The picture is asking for a fark.

"You can't spell pout without OU"

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Cavalcade of Whimsy - The pOUting must stop
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By Pete Fiutak
CollegeFootballNews.com
Posted Sep 18, 2006

From the non-stop screaming, complaints, and even a death threat about horrible officiating in the Oklahoma-Oregon and LSU-Auburn games, to the Reggie Bush situation, to the crying about the new clock rules, Pete Fiutak pleads/whines for the whining to cease in the latest Cavalcade of Whimsy.


If this column sucks, it's not my fault. I got stabbed in the leg by a frustrated, backup writer.

The C.O.W. airing of the grievances followed by the feats of strength
This might have been the whiniest week of college football I can ever remember with Oklahoma and LSU fans bombing anyone with an e-mail proof that their respective teams got jobbed by the officials. It's a shame there isn't this kind of fire and anger when it comes to the important aspects of our world. Yeah, there were some terrible, terrible calls in the two big games this last week.

However, despite what many choose to believe, they didn't decide the games. Let's make something very, very clear here. The officials aren't biased. In today's day and age when there's so much media coverage of the big games like the ones this Saturday, do you really, truly believe officials would deliberately screw up knowing that they'd get nailed to the wall for the bad calls? With that in mind, here are the ten things that made me really, really, really grouchy this week.

10. You can't spell pout without OU
Here's a concept foreign to Oklahoma in its rage over the outcome of the Oregon game: defense. The officials blew the call on the onside kick and the late pass interference call, and inexcusably messed up in the replay booth in a big way. The Sooner nation has a right to be really, really mad, but not to the point of tormenting the poor ref who blew the call with phone calls and death threats. OU still could've won the game if it had just done something to stop the Ducks over the final three minutes.

Maybe the Sooners can't handle the fact that they flat-out choked after the blown call. Maybe they're looking for answers to why their secondary, even with the bad pass interference call (that ball was tipped) couldn't make a final stop, or why their special teams couldn't block anyone on the final field goal attempt. You want an apology? How about a big, fat, "I'm sorry" for your performance in the 55-19 loss to USC in the 2005 Orange Bowl?


9. University of Oklahoma president David Boren
Boren embarrassed the University of Oklahoma, the players, coaches, and the game of college football with his letter to the Big 12 asking to eliminate the Oregon game from the record books and to request the Pac 10 officials be suspended for the season. How about hollering at the team for not being mentally tough enough to overcome an honest officiating mistake? The officials didn't beat Oklahoma, Oregon did. It's unfortunate the Pac 10?s apology and reply didn't have the words 'eat' or 'shorts' in it. Which leads me to :

9. If you want to be known as a power conference, act that way
Why did the Pac 10 suspend those officials for one game? They blew a call. It was a big call and they missed it, but to suspend them is to cater to public opinion and try to assign blame for human error. Worse yet, it feeds into the notion that there was some sort of conspiracy against the Sooners. Accept responsibility and say your guys blew the call. That's it. If Oklahoma, or anyone else can't handle it, then that's their too bad. If the officials really are grossly incompetent, then fire them.
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Sorry this column sucked, but it wasn't my fault ? I came out stomping on Louisville's logo in a case of faux bravado and swagger. Later, I got a notice from my bank regarding my butt's inability to cash a check that my mouth, and my stomping, wrote.

 
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From Dodd's blog.

Notice how Joe Castiglione, the Oklahoma AD, was with Missouri during the Colorado 5-down game in 1990, and the 'flea-kicker' game with Nebraska in 1997. What did he do in a previous life to earn such bad karma?

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Sooners' Stoops has much to say
It hasn't been a good year for Oklahoma. Quarterback Rhett Bomar pooped all over the program in early August when it was revealed he was taking money for work he didn't perform at a car dealership.

The team's national championship hopes were essentially ended right there. When the Sooners did get on the field, it was obvious quarterback wasn't their biggest concern. The defense allowed Alabama-Birmingham and Washington to stay closer than they should have in the first two games.

Then came Saturday's fiasco in Eugene, Ore., which might have been the biggest officiating blunder since the notorious Fifth Down game between Missouri and Colorado 16 years ago.

At 6:05 p.m. ET, 48 hours after Oregon's tainted 34-33 victory, we finally heard from the Pac-10 on the subject.

The officiating crew and replay official were suspended one game and the Pac-10 apologized to Oklahoma for botched calls (and non-calls) at the end of the game.

On Monday night after practice, Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops immediately gathered reporters around him in an obvious I'm-only-going-to-say-it once rant.

It's already been a long season and Stoops didn't hold back.

"At least they have reacted to it and tried," Stoops said of the Pac-10. "Truly, there can be no amends to it and it can't be corrected. I think (the media) are fair to discern whether the actions taken against (the officials) or the individuals who had an opportunity to get it right are acceptable or enough ... compared to how our season has changed.

"If you're going to write any of this, you need to say it all. I've made a million mistakes; I'll make a million more. In each game and in that game included ... there are things I could have done differently or changed. Unlike officials, players and coaches don't have that opportunity. They had an opportunity to get it right and they chose not to.

"So I find it still absolutely inexcusable and unacceptable. In particular (the) people who had an opportunity to review it all and look at it and get it right. They chose not to.

"You discern whether a one-game suspension is appropriate for those individuals. I'm not talking about people in the heat of the moment out there in the middle of the chaos. I'm talking about people who, like every viewer at home, had an opportunity to see it. It's not for me to decide what is appropriate, but I think it's fair to say that a one-game suspension compared to the way our season now is altered, I don't know if that fits the situation.

"Like I said, I've made a million mistakes. In a game I'd love to have a chance to replay it and do it over. They get that opportunity, we don't. To me, again, it's just unacceptable and inexcusable. ...

"All parties involved should have to explain their actions to some degree you
would think. There are a lot of dynamics to it.

"We all make mistakes in the heat of the moment. Every coach in the country and every kid would love to replay it and say, 'Let me do that over.' (The officials) have that opportunity, so how can it be excusable and acceptable? It's just not.

"The people who were in those positions, I don't know if that's enough compared to what they've done to our season when they had an opportunity to get it right. And it isn't like there's 10 minutes to go. We're taking a knee, game's over. I'm not saying we didn't have our fault in it that we could be better. But that's the end of the game and there is no refuting that."

It's good to see Bob isn't bitter or anything like that.

Several thoughts: Was anyone else bothered that it took the Pac-10 two days to say anything?

In contrast, the SEC supervisor of officials, Rogers Redding, was quoted Saturday regarding the ending at LSU-Auburn.

The Pac-10 looks like it is: a) slow; b) didn't care; or c) both. What's the use of having replay if you don't use it correctly? If you haven't seen replays of the missed calls in the Oklahoma-Oregon game, do yourself favor. You will be appalled.

This practice of having local retired officials closely affiliated with the home team has to stop. Gordon Riese, the replay official responsible for the (lack of) calls, is a retired Pac-10 official from Portland, Ore., with 28 years experience.

Ironically, Pac-10 officials supervisor Verle Sorgen was given an outstanding official award last year by the National Football Foundation. Sorgen retired as an official in 1994 and has been the league's supervisor for the past 21 years.

This is not the first time Oklahoma had a problem with Pac-10 officials. Stoops asked the Big 12 to pass on his concerns about several calls in the game. Even after all that, Oklahoma gave up the game-winning touchdown to an incredibly open receiver. Then it ran back the kickoff into Oregon territory and had a chance to kick the game-winning field goal. It was blocked.

This wasn't a last-play-of-the-game type thing. Oklahoma had two chances to recover after the heinous officiating and did not make a play.

Still, instant replay was created so these types of things wouldn't happen. Oklahoma goes to Washington in 2008. Don't be surprised if Oklahoma demands a Big 12 or neutral officiating crew. It is Pac-10 policy for a conference crew to officiate all home non-conference games.

You can bet that practice will be terminated when future opponents start demanding otherwise. ...

Here's how I, as a commissioner, would have handled it:
1. I would have called Sorgen immediately after the game and told him to contact the officials involved. Sometimes that's impossible because officiating crews typically head directly to the airport after games. But at least that first phone call would have the wheels in motion.
2. Before they did anything else, I would have ordered the referee and involved officials to write detailed reports of the plays in question (onside kick, pass interference). Those reports would be faxed or e-mailed ASAP.
3. I would have gotten a tape of the game myself as soon as possible to review.
4. I would have contacted both coaches and both athletic directors for their perspective.
5. The first comment from the league office would have been Sunday, instead of dinnertime on Monday.

Instead, you've got Oklahoma president David Boren dropping an A-bomb Monday afternoon. Boren wrote Big 12 commissioner Kevin Weiberg insisting that the Pac-10 forfeit the game and the officials be suspended.

Because the issue wasn't handled promptly the fallout was even more embarrassing for the Big 12, Pac-10 and Boren.

Finally, Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione has unfortunate history in these
things. He was in the Missouri athletic department in 1990 when Colorado was given five downs in defeating the Tigers and eventually winning a national championship that year.

He was Missouri's AD in 1997 for the infamous "Flea-Kicker" game against Nebraska. An intentionally kicked ball in the end zone by Nebraska's Shevin Wiggins allowed freshman Matt Davison to catch the game-tying touchdown pass. Nebraska won in overtime.

Now this. Joe, you're a great guy but you need to visit Psychic Friends to see if you're cursed. ...
 
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Think if this happened to the Buckeyes...the whole city would likely burn down. This is why i DONT like replay...because there can still be errors, and when there are, they are A TON worse then if there were no replay at all.
 
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oklahoma vs oregon debacle or two calls that are turning the game into a debacle

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9669140

OU president wants game off books, Pac-10 officials suspended
Sep. 18, 2006
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports
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[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] NORMAN, Okla. -- University of Oklahoma president David Boren sent a letter to Big 12 commissioner Kevin Weiberg on Monday, asking him to push for the Sooners' game against Oregon to be eliminated from the record books and having the Pac-10 officials involved in the game suspended for the remainder of the season[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Two plays were reviewed on Oregon's game-winning drive -- an onside kick that gave the Ducks possession and a pass interference call one play before the touchdown that gave them a 34-33 victory. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "To describe the lapses in accurate officiating at the Oklahoma-Oregon football game last Saturday as constituting an outrageous injustice is an understatement," Boren wrote in the letter dated Monday. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops has said he believes an Oregon player interfered with Oklahoma's ability to recover the onside kick by illegally touching the ball and a Sooners player before the kick traveled 10 yards. He also believes the Sooners recovered the kick, as tailback Allen Patrick had possession at the end of the play. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Stoops has also said he believes Oklahoma defensive end C.J. Ah You tipped a pass by Dennis Dixon that resulted in a pass interference call. If the ball was indeed tipped, the pass interference call would have been negated. [/FONT]
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Bob Stoops gives an official an earful after the onside kickoff goes Oregon's way. (AP) [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Both plays were reviewed using instant replay Saturday, and Pacific 10 commissioner Tom Hansen said an announcement will be made Tuesday on whether the calls were correct. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Pac-10 spokesman Jim Muldoon did not immediately return telephone calls for comment about Boren's letter. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Boren requested "an apology from the Pac-10 for the gross errors in officiating" and also called for the Pac-10 to change its rule that requires only Pac-10 officials be used for nonconference home games. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] The letter also asks the Big 12 to place on the agendas of NCAA meetings and conference commissioners' meetings a discussion of how the review process should be implemented. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] "It is truly sad and deeply disappointing that members of our football team should be deprived of the outcome of the game that they deserved because of an inexcusable breakdown in officiating," Boren wrote. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione said Sunday that the university would request a "comprehensive review of specific officiating decisions and use of instant replay" in the game[/FONT]
 
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I would honestly imagine that Stoops is embarrassed by this stunt.
Elsewhere in the letter the Sooner President says this is an "outrageou injustice" - sure like OJ getting off scott free.
I agree that the Buckeyes would be upset if something like this happened to them. I cannot imagine the University President, let alone Gene Smith our AD letting loose like this.
 
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methomps;611015; said:
Or the BP Open Discussion Forum.

I think you're confusing complete lack of motivation (us) with gross incompetence (them). :biggrin:

bucklion said:
But if they did that it would set a precedent. They'd have to reverse several Rose Bowl games in which the Big 10 got screwed by Pac 8/10 refs. This is one of the things that concerns me about using bowl games to determine the BCS or in the development of a playoff system.

Not so long ago Michigan defeated Illinois when they were given a fifth down, got a first down and went on to score. If the Illini had been given the ball there is little doubt they would have run the clock out. Illinois protested, the Big 10 stated it was a fifth down and apologized and Michigan refused to concede the game. Were the shoe on the other foot I doubt that Boren of OU would be so concerned about the outcome.

I'm not saying they should reverse the outcome. I'm saying the replay officials should be axed. I don't believe that is a poor precedent. Some real accountability.

OregonBuckeye said:
That Oklahoma president is nothing but class. :roll1:

I haven't seen anything particularly atrocious. I don't think they should overturn the result, but filing a formal request doesn't seem out-of-line to me. Has he said/done something other than that?
 
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JonathanXC;611686; said:
Think if this happened to the Buckeyes...the whole city would likely burn down. This is why i DONT like replay...because there can still be errors, and when there are, they are A TON worse then if there were no replay at all.

Don't blame this clusterfuck on the replay system itself, but rather on the blind fuck who couldn't see what was blatantly obvious. And tell me how this worse just because it was upheld by replay? A badly blown call is a badly blown call, period. You know what everyone on the planet would be screaming for it there were no replay in place and this shit happened? That's right, they'd be screaming for replay...
 
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