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Game Thread Ohio State vs TCU (Arlington, TX) - 09/15/18, 8:00PM (ABC)

IIRC every NC OSU has won - at least in my lifetime --has included a win over a team from Texas except 2014.

In 2014 the NC game was played in Texas.
Damn. Don't remember SMU in '68 as the other OOC game (and epochal as it was remember quite a bit from that year). Remember OR clearly (pretty sure that game was televised). Not sure if I like the implications of this TX thing but that is one weird stat. Cheers:cheers:
 
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IIRC every NC OSU has won - at least in my lifetime --has included a win over a team from Texas except 2014.

In 2014 the NC game was played in Texas.

1942 and 1954 had no Texas team, but '57, '61, '68, '70, and 2002 did feature an opponent from Texas. I don't know if you were alive in '54 or not. I was a gleam in my Daddy's eye at that point.
 
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When this is over:


Not sure about Arlington although Texas Live just opened there a few months ago. https://texas-live.com/ Might be worth checking out. Will probably be packed though.

If you want the full affect, try to make it over to Joe T's in the Fort Worth Stockyards. https://joetgarcias.com/ But bring cash, as they do not take credit cards.

You stay.

You are joking right?


The discussion before I got here was a repeat of "Ohio big, TCU small, run down middle".

If that passes for discussion I dont know what to say but ive proved it false and I saved this thread and started real conversation; not just repetition of myopic unlinked uninformed opinions, or want to be 6th grade english teachers.




The point I made, which is a fact, was the weight of the lines of both teams are about the same, any difference is negligible, which is a far cry from what this board thought before I arrived.

You are welcome.

You? Notsomuch.
 
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Is there a chance that TCU “Virginia Techs” us and confuses our young QB and oline with a scheme that stops the offense all game? Yes.

At the same time, I trust Haskins’ arm, Day/Wilson coaching, and the deep and experienced group of receivers we have in 2018 way more than Barrett’s arm, one week to prepare a game plan, and the group of really inexperienced WRs that led to 2014.

Is there a chance TCU “Iowas” us and moves the ball all game by confusing our LBs with passes to the TEs and RBs out of the backfield? Yes.

Thank goodness Fuller and Borland are back to at least get the calls right - and as has been pointed out, this dline against four new starters should help... a lot.

Those are the two concerns going in for me. It is also possible that Ohio State lines up its better players across the board with a superior game plan and runs the horned frogs out of the building.

I think it will be somewhere in the middle. How quickly and effectively Ohio State adjusts to whatever TCU is doing on defense will determine what type of game this will be.

Given that TCU’s philosophy is apparently to shut down the LOS and dare you to throw it deep, I like our chances with the players/coaches we have now... and needless to say I am very happy Barrett isn’t our current QB, which would be a huge, huge concern given what our helpful horned frog friends have shared about their defensive philosophy.

But alas, that is not the case and Ohio State seemingly has the right people on offense to give TCU some problems, and a D that should be able to slow down TCU enough, even with (possible) ongoing LB issues.

The LBs looked a lot better, if not perfect, against Rutgers, which is encouraging.
 
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SKULL SESSION: NICK BOSA'S STRETCHING, URBAN MEYER'S SELF-SUSTAINING PROGRAM, AND BRAXTON MILLER WON'T STAY ON PRACTICE SQUAD

TCU SCARED?
Ohio State's matchup with TCU was originally slated as a two-year home-and-home series, but it ultimately switched to a one-time, "neutral site" game in Jerry World because God forbid we play college football games on college campuses.

But TCU head coach Gary Patterson is a fan of the change, and why not? Now, he only has to play Ohio State once, and in a "neutral site" that happens to be in his own back yard.

From CNHINews.com:

“This is a great challenge for us, and I'm glad we're playing it, but I think it's a lot better business plan for us to play it one time instead of playing twice,” Patterson said Monday on the Big 12 teleconference.

Why? Two reasons.

First, a game against a top-flight program comes with significant ramifications. Win, and it can insert a team in the College Football Playoff discussion. Lose, and the hopes and dreams are all but shattered. Take Patterson’s recent example: Oklahoma and Ohio State played a home-and-home the past two years. Ohio State won in 2016 and made it to the CFP semifinals. Oklahoma used a 2017 win to surge into the CFP semifinals. The loser watched from home.

Then there are the injury concerns from a game of such magnitude. Oklahoma has first-hand experience of this from last weekend when star running back Rodney Anderson suffered a season-ending knee injury.

Reading between the lines, Patterson is saying "If we play two games, there's a strong chance we lose both, it's extremely likely we lose at least one, and totally unlikely we win twice."

It sounds like Patterson is willing to roll the dice and hope for the best once against a young team early in the season, but wants no part of Ohio State twice, regardless of what happens the first time around.

I can't say I blame him, but I can't say I respect it either.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...turn-tcu-scared-braxton-miller-practice-squad
 
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JEFFREY OKUDAH SET FOR REMATCH WITH HIGH SCHOOL FRIEND AND OPPONENT SHAWN ROBINSON AS OHIO STATE FACES TCU

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Jeffrey Okudah knows from experience that playing Shawn Robinson can be a tough test for a football team’s defense.

Okudah and Robinson previously played one another in 2016, when Okudah was a senior at South Grand Prairie High School and Robinson was a senior at DeSoto High School. Robinson’s Eagles got the best of Okudah’s Warriors that day, 37-31, as Robinson threw for 197 yards and a touchdown while running for 108 yards and another touchdown.

Two years later, though, with Okudah now playing cornerback for Ohio State and Robinson now the starting quarterback for TCU, Okudah will have a chance to turn the tables when his Buckeyes play Robinson’s Horned Frogs at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas – just a short drive from where each of them grew up – on Saturday night.

Preparing for Robinson, and his ability to make plays with both his arm and his feet, has been a focal point for Ohio State’s defense all week. He’s the first true running threat from the quarterback position that the Buckeyes have faced all year, adding a new challenge for Ohio State’s defense to deal with.

“It changes all the math,” defensive coordinator Greg Schiano said earlier this week. “When the quarterback carries the ball, and can do it well, then the defensive math changes. And what I've noticed … he scrambles, but he scrambles first to throw it down the field. Then, when he decides to go, he’s a really good runner. Very good runner. But it's not where he just tucks it to run right away. So we're going to have to hold coverage when he does start to move out of the pocket, and then be ready once he crosses the line of scrimmage to come up and try to get him down, which is easier said than done. He's a 230-pound man who runs very well.”

While Robinson has been inconsistent in his first two starts this season as a passer, his ability to make plays as a runner has been evident. He’s already rushed for 112 yards and three touchdowns, including an 18-yard touchdown last Friday against SMU, on just 10 carries in the Horned Frogs’ first two games.

The four-star recruit’s running ability was also certainly evident in high school – when he ran for 4,452 yards and 53 touchdowns, along with throwing for 7,646 yards and 75 touchdowns, over three seasons – and no one knows that better than Okudah, who compared his running ability to that of former Louisville quarterback and 2016 Heisman Trophy winner Lamar Jackson.

“I think he’s a really elusive runner,” Okudah said. “If you watch his high school tape, you see spin moves, you see jukes in there. It’s kind of like maybe even you could say, a stockier Lamar Jackson kind of player.”



Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...h-with-shawn-robinson-as-ohio-state-faces-tcu
 
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Is there a chance that TCU “Virginia Techs” us and confuses our young QB and oline with a scheme that stops the offense all game? Yes.

At the same time, I trust Haskins’ arm, Day/Wilson coaching, and the deep and experienced group of receivers we have in 2018 way more than Barrett’s arm, one week to prepare a game plan, and the group of really inexperienced WRs that led to 2014.

Is there a chance TCU “Iowas” us and moves the ball all game by confusing our LBs with passes to the TEs and RBs out of the backfield? Yes.

Thank goodness Fuller and Borland are back to at least get the calls right - and as has been pointed out, this dline against four new starters should help... a lot.

Those are the two concerns going in for me. It is also possible that Ohio State lines up its better players across the board with a superior game plan and runs the horned frogs out of the building.

I think it will be somewhere in the middle. How quickly and effectively Ohio State adjusts to whatever TCU is doing on defense will determine what type of game this will be.

Given that TCU’s philosophy is apparently to shut down the LOS and dare you to throw it deep, I like our chances with the players/coaches we have now... and needless to say I am very happy Barrett isn’t our current QB, which would be a huge, huge concern given what our helpful horned frog friends have shared about their defensive philosophy.

But alas, that is not the case and Ohio State seemingly has the right people on offense to give TCU some problems, and a D that should be able to slow down TCU enough, even with (possible) ongoing LB issues.

The LBs looked a lot better, if not perfect, against Rutgers, which is encouraging.
I would point out that, much to the frustration of TCU fans, the TCU TE's are the loch ness monster of our offense, in that no one is sure they actually exist. For whatever reason, they are consistently under utilized.
 
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I would point out that, much to the frustration of TCU fans, the TCU TE's are the loch ness monster of our offense, in that no one is sure they actually exist. For whatever reason, they are consistently under utilized.
Hoping the offense uses the tight end more has been an ongoing thing (and joke) for Ohio State for almost two decades.

I will say, we run a pretty nifty counter play where the TE motions across the formation and “traps” the DT or LB. that’s one of the more exciting/effective ways we’ve used the TE in recent history.
 
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Hoping the offense uses the tight end more has been an ongoing thing (and joke) for Ohio State for almost two decades.

I will say, we run a pretty nifty counter play where the TE motions across the formation and “traps” the DT or LB. that’s one of the more exciting/effective ways we’ve used the TE in recent history.
The hope (ongoing for a few years now) is that Cumbie will break out the TE like he did with Jace Amaro at TT in 2013 (106 catches for 1352 yards and & TDs).
 
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Personally, I'm not ready to be confident in them. I'm still picturing an athletic QB getting them lost on misdirection and either running free himself or opening up options for TE/WRs across the middle. Fully expecting the D to give up 21-24, probably on a few big plays.

Fortunately, while the Ohio State offense will face its toughest test, I don't see why they shouldn't put up 38-42 themselves. Just imo.

I think this is going to be a reality. OSU will most likely give up a decent amount of yards to TCU.
 
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I think this is going to be a reality. OSU will most likely give up a decent amount of yards to TCU.
Yeah, I’d like to think not, but while I’m guessing our front 4 will get after the QB and RBs a bit, they will also break through on occasions and will find chunks of yardage. That said, I’m trusting that our offense will find more chunks of yardage.
 
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Rewatched the Rutgers game because some expressed the LB play was still shakey. I thought they played great to be honest.

Borland missed one tackle and he didnt properly fill once but other than that they looked really good.

Wouldn't be shocked if its a nickle formation most of the time anyways
 
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I would point out that, much to the frustration of TCU fans, the TCU TE's are the loch ness monster of our offense, in that no one is sure they actually exist. For whatever reason, they are consistently under utilized.
Please continue to do so though have a feeling that Nessie, Sasquatch, Chupacapra and Mothman will all be seen this Saturday. TE is the Achilles heel to the Buckeye D and Patterson would be an idiot to not use them often. Found them. Looks like they are headed to Arlington as we speak.
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