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Game Thread Ohio State vs Oklahoma, 09/09/17 @ 7:30 ET (ABC)

FILM STUDY: DESPITE FACING THE SAME QUARTERBACK, NEW CHALLENGES AWAIT OHIO STATE'S DEFENSE AGAINST OKLAHOMA

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Bob Stoops probably doesn't get enough credit.



Though the former Sooner coach cut his teeth as a defensive assistant, leading units for Bill Snyder and Steve Spurrier before getting the opportunity to lead a program of his own in the late 90s, his offenses in Norman always seemed to be on the cutting edge. While many coaches would've opted to hire a more conservative play-caller as he tried to turn around a traditional powerhouse like Oklahoma, Stoops shocked everyone by hiring Mike Leach to install the Air Raid in his first season.

Though Leach would leave shortly after to run a program of his own for the first time at Texas Tech, the effects of that hire on Stoops' program are still felt today. Many of Leach's core passing concepts would later be combined with those of another Sooner play-caller - Kevin Wilson - to create the powerhouse offense that featured Sam Bradford and Adrian Peterson a decade ago.

But after a spell in the early part of this decade in which the Sooners failed to consistently find a balance between the run and the pass, Stoops called on one of the proteges of his first coordinator, a former Texas Tech quarterback named Lincoln Riley. After walking on and backing up stars like Kliff Kingsbury and BJ Symons in Lubbock, Riley quickly worked his way up the assistant ranks under Leach before following Ruffin McNeil to East Carolina to call plays for the first time.

Once given an offense of his own to lead, Riley wasn't afraid to run the ball far more often than Leach had, which made his resume far more interesting when Stoops came calling in 2015. At the time, the Sooners had two extremely talented backs on the roster in Simaje Perine and Joe Mixon, but no clear vision for the passing game, leaving Stoops without the balance he desired.

With Riley at the helm, Baker Mayfield quickly ascended the depth chart, having been familiar with the Air Raid from a lone season playing at Tech under Kingsbury. To account for his three most gifted offensive players all needing to line up in the backfield, though, Riley adjusted many of his base passing schemes to resemble those of early 1980s offenses, such as BYU's split-back attack from Lavell Edwards and Norm Chow that inspired Leach and Hal Mumme to create the Air Raid in the first place.

The results were obviously electrifying, as the Sooners made the College Football Playoff in Riley's first season in Norman. After finishing second in the nation in total offense last fall, it seemed obvious who was the best candidate to replace Stoops after he suddenly announced his retirement earlier this year.

But though Riley is now leading the program, he's still tasked with leading the offense this fall, and the pieces at his disposal are quite different despite Mayfield's return for a fifth and final season.

Though Perine and Mixon are gone, the running game with tailback Abdul Adams still seems capable of moving the sticks, thanks in large part to one of Riley's signature schemes - the GT Counter-Read:


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Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...eg-schiano-and-the-ohio-state-defense-against
 
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jfc

Why do you think [Mark May] like this is relevant, but results from last year with the same parts (our DLine vs your OLine) or legit NFL departures from your team aren't relevant? WOW....his dad played in the NFL?!?!?! Surely that gives him a leg up.

WHO CARES

Well the guys who are replacing them scored TDs against UTEP, so they must be legit!
 
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Well yeah, because Michigan's defensive tackles are just almost unfair to college football. Rashan Gary reminds me a lot of Gerald McCoy.
Michigan has some nice DTs. Rashan Gary is not one of them. Big #3 is hard to miss. The games are on youtube and truncated if you'd like to begin watching Michigan's 2017 DL.

As for comparing them to OSU, they start Chase Winovich. He would not come close to cracking the two deep at DE. He would battle Cooper and Young to make the third string. I think he'd be behind Young.
 
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On average, OU's offensive line outweighs your defensive line by about 40 pounds. If we sub Cody Ford in for Ben Powers, we outweigh your D-line by 50.
So if osu rolled out four 330 lb fatties, they'd be more formidable? Against an air raid offense with a very elusive qb?

I think they'll stick with their four early draft choices and bevy of guys who can line up at 3 DL spots interchangeably and be disruptive, strong in pursuit and physical enough to stuff the run.
 
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Good read. Also includes this:



Two things are abundantly clear, Andrews is still a heck of a weapon, and UTEP offers less defensive resistance than a no-contact walkthrough.

Every single throw to him is up the seam. Considering we don't play much zone this shouldn't be as much of an issue. Again I double him and see if Mead/Badet can go win again which we all know they can't.

I'm in for a freak out in the 2nd quarter when Andrews catches a 35 yard seam route for a TD. This guy shouldn't have more then 50 yards with how obvious it is that he's their main weapon. He will have a big night and for the life of me I won't understand why.

As for OU having a bigger Oline... both our DTs are 295 former defensive ends and our ends go 270 and can run as fast as linebackers. They're heavy enough to bull rush and fast enough to go around your heavy offensive line.

That heavy line will serve you well through your season but against a defensive front that legit goes 3 deep that's a non issue. Also that same fat line couldn't handle the same fast defensive front we have last year
 
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Ahhh, college blue bloods meet on the gridiron once again ... OSU vs OU. The kind of matchup that everyone craves ... elite teams, elite history, elite goals! Can't get much better than this. Hoping for a great matchup, injury free, don't even remember the refs, tilt, that both our fan bases deserve. Let's go Bucks!!!

Combined Totals (OSU + OU)

National Titles 8+7 = 15

College Hall of Fame (Players 25+21 = 46) (Coaches 7+5 = 12)

Consensus All Americans 83+77 = 160
Unanimous All Americans 32+32 = 64
Academic All Americans 37 + 23 = 60

Heisman Trophy 7+5 = 12
Outland Trophy 4+5 = 9
Lombardi Award 6+3 = 9
Walter Camp Award 4+3 = 7
Maxwell Award 4+2 = 6
Butkus Award 2+4 = 6
Thorpe Award 2+3 = 5
O'Brien Award 1+4 = 5
Nagurski Award 1+2 = 3
Campbell Trophy 2+1 = 3
Rimington Trophy 2+0 = 2
Biletnikoff Award 1+1 = 2
Walker Award 1+0 = 1
Guy Award 1+0 = 1
Groza Award 1+0 = 1
Lott Trophy 1+0 = 1
Johnny Unitas Award 0+1 = 1
Bednarik Award 0+1 = 1
Tatupu Award 0+1 = 1
 
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Between the (like Kansas dline) [Mark May] talking from players and some borderline delusional spew from RC, I'm more than ready to see the good guys roll the sooners Saturday night.

I do believe this years OU squad is plenty motivated to come in and play well in the Shoe. Hell, OU may pull it off and get the win. What I'm also certain of is that what I think or want to happen means jack fucking [Mark May] in regards to the actual outcome of this game.

Unless you're suiting up for one of these teams you have an opinion and that's it. I'm really happy there's some conversation going on with an opposing fan in this thread...It has been pretty entertaining.

I was just hoping for more intelligent banter from the OU fan base.

Carry on.

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I agree... RC your team very well could win the game as TS10 just said OU is plenty motivated. You have made the past week sorta fun lol...
 
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I agree... RC your team very well could win the game as TS10 just said OU is plenty motivated. You have made the past week sorta fun lol...
Well good, I'm glad you've enjoyed it. Remember, we're all just fans and we have no control whatsoever over the outcomes of our favorite teams.

Alright now that it's Friday, I think I'll go ahead and make the prediction that OU wins 30-27 in overtime on a touchdown pass from Mayfield to Andrews. OU falls behind 24-10 in the fourth quarter, but Mayfield repeats his performance from Knoxville in 2015 and guides OU to another storming 4th quarter comeback that will forever live in Sooner Magic lore. OU then goes to overtime and wins on a touchdown pass after forcing OSU to settle for a field goal.

Okay, while the rest of you predict a blowout win for your team I'll make the prediction that OU wins a close one. :wink:
 
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