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Game Thread Ohio State vs Oklahoma, 09/09/17 @ 7:30 ET (ABC)

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Get our playmakers the ball in space and we'll have success. I'm glad they found that recipe - just get Campbell on drag routes, no one is keeping up with him. Start that early, keep their LB's honest and bash away with Weber/Dobbins. Mix in the deep ball and let JT pick apart from there with the read option once you have them second guessing and their heads spinning.

Our DL will no doubt have success, but the matchup I'm focused on is Jerome Baker vs. Mark Andrews. Not sure Andrews has had that athletic of a LB on his hip since last year!

Any word on Jordan Parker's injury? It looked like a legit knee injury, if he does play he won't be 100%. They are depleted after some injuries back there.....to come to Columbus, night game....the lack of experience and communication is going to be a serious issue.
 
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Well, BN27, I guess we try to present a welcoming place for fans from other teams for discussion.

I just watched Oklahoma against UTEP. Their offense looked good, but against a really bad defense. Their defense also appeared to have some problems in the secondary, as Ohio State did, early on.

Computers have their limitations, especially as the early ratings are affected by last year, but the Massey ratings are as follows:

Team, ranking, offensive ranking, defensive ranking
Ohio State 5, 20,4
Oklahoma 6, 2, 30
Indiana 68, 61,60
UTEP 153 48, 165

In a head-to-head simulation, Indiana would be expected to beat UTEP 41 -21, with more than 90% probability of winning.
Both Ohio State and Oklahoma exceeded the winning margin of the Massey model by 10 points in their first game.
In a head-to-head simulation, Ohio State would be expected to beat Oklahoma by the home field advantage of 2.5 points, so a close game.

A consideration. The game predictions of the computer models will change in the next few days as they factor in the first games. The models that performed most accurately in the first week (> 90% accuracy) have Ohio State as about a TD favorite. Having watched both games, i would be comfortable with that, but I think that Ohio State's ability to put Mayfield under pressure could increase that margin.
 
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RCSooner1974 said:
Ew gross! Don't tell me you read that [Mark May].

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Only for the low carb recipes tho
 
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bigdog3300 said:
Get our playmakers the ball in space and we'll have success. I'm glad they found that recipe - just get Campbell on drag routes, no one is keeping up with him. Start that early, keep their LB's honest and bash away with Weber/Dobbins. Mix in the deep ball and let JT pick apart from there with the read option once you have them second guessing and their heads spinning.

Our DL will no doubt have success, but the matchup I'm focused on is Jerome Baker vs. Mark Andrews. Not sure Andrews has had that athletic of a LB on his hip since last year!

Any word on Jordan Parker's injury? It looked like a legit knee injury, if he does play he won't be 100%. They are depleted after some injuries back there.....to come to Columbus, night game....the lack of experience and communication is going to be a serious issue.
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Hell last year we won and didn't even bother to play the 4th quarter and also didn't even pretend to be interested in balance. Not sure why but I feel more confident about this game then I did the opener
 
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bigdog3300 said:
Get our playmakers the ball in space and we'll have success. I'm glad they found that recipe - just get Campbell on drag routes, no one is keeping up with him. Start that early, keep their LB's honest and bash away with Weber/Dobbins. Mix in the deep ball and let JT pick apart from there with the read option once you have them second guessing and their heads spinning.

Our DL will no doubt have success, but the matchup I'm focused on is Jerome Baker vs. Mark Andrews. Not sure Andrews has had that athletic of a LB on his hip since last year!

Any word on Jordan Parker's injury? It looked like a legit knee injury, if he does play he won't be 100%. They are depleted after some injuries back there.....to come to Columbus, night game....the lack of experience and communication is going to be a serious issue.
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I think Jerome Baker alone creates a matchup problem for ANY offense, but he'll have his hands full with Andrews.

Jordan Parker lost his starting spot to Parnell Motley (mostly due to Motley's insane spring and summer camps), but he's a big loss in terms of experience for sure. Urban would be wise to attack opposite Jordan Thomas still, except I think losing Noah Brown hurts a lot for you guys because OU's DBs are more likely to be burned by bigger/taller receivers instead of the ones 6'0" and under.
 
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Steve19 said:
Well, BN27, I guess we try to present a welcoming place for fans from other teams for discussion.

I just watched Oklahoma against UTEP. Their offense looked good, but against a really bad defense. Their defense also appeared to have some problems in the secondary, as Ohio State did, early on.

Computers have their limitations, especially as the early ratings are affected by last year, but the Massey ratings are as follows:

Team, ranking, offensive ranking, defensive ranking
Ohio State 5, 20,4
Oklahoma 6, 2, 30
Indiana 68, 61,60
UTEP 153 48, 165

In a head-to-head simulation, Indiana would be expected to beat UTEP 41 -21, with more than 90% probability of winning.
Both Ohio State and Oklahoma exceeded the winning margin of the Massey model by 10 points in their first game.
In a head-to-head simulation, Ohio State would be expected to beat Oklahoma by the home field advantage of 2.5 points, so a close game.

A consideration. The game predictions of the computer models will change in the next few days as they factor in the first games. The models that performed most accurately in the first week (> 90% accuracy) have Ohio State as about a TD favorite. Having watched both games, i would be comfortable with that, but I think that Ohio State's ability to put Mayfield under pressure could increase that margin.
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That's an accurate assessment. But I'm actually more comfortable with OU being the underdog on the road because that's when they usually play with a chip on their shoulder and perform better than expected. It may not guarantee a win for OU, but at least it will look better for them if they lose close instead of in embarrassing fashion.

But Baker Mayfield has never lost a game on the road, and by that I mean on an opponent's home turf.
 
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