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Game Thread Ohio State vs Michigan State - 10/05/19, 7:30PM (ABC)



These guys use a version of what I call DSA and combine it with efficiency calculations. The 2005 Rushing Defense inspired me to start doing DSA, the 2002 team inspired me to post a lot of efficiency calculations. I’m biased, but I think a combination of these things is a great way to analyze the sport, a great basis for conversation.

Those who were around in the DSA days might remember that I rarely used DSA before week 4 and said that it should be taken with a grain of salt until late in the season. DSA was misleading at best early on; it nailed the 2010 Rose Bowl.

These guys roll out their results way too early imho. Based on past years, you can expect their accuracy to improve dramatically as the season progresses.

I think their analysis of where and how to correct for the model is better in this one than it was for the Nebraska game, but still flawed. The off-camera guy is right that the Tulsa game is what massively skews the MSU numbers, but half-right in describing why.

Where he’s right is how the game affects Sparty offensive efficiency. There were defensive scores and short fields in plenty, not all of it attributable to Sparty defense. What he missed was that this game massively skews MSU differential defense, and a comical amount of it was directly attributable to the Tulsa center being an upside-down Bauserman.

One other thing they missed is something I missed myself earlier in the week. The Spartan offense is fine when the opposing defense can’t expose their injury depleted OL and struggle mightily otherwise. I thought their performance against the Hoosiers might have been due to looking ahead. Having heard about the injuries, I’m not so sure. This just might be a matchup problem on Saturday.

I think their score picks (Buckeyes by 3 TDs) might not be far off, but the MSU scores might come later than they think.
 
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I think this goes similar to the Nebraska game. MSU's defense might be a bit better but overall they are just a meh team. Their offense lacks the potential explosion of Nebraska however, it's going to be tough for them to run the ball and Lewerke throwing a bunch is not going to end well in this game for them.
 
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In this one, off-camera guy mentions that Ohio State’s Differential Rushing Defense (my name for the metric) of 0.68 is “elite”. He’s not wrong, per se, but for perspective, the rushing defense that inspired DSA (2005) spent most of the year around 0.5 IIRC


I have always maintained that the 2005 team, at the end of the year, was the best Tressel ever had.
 
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I have always maintained that the 2005 team, at the end of the year, was the best Tressel ever had.
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I think this goes similar to the Nebraska game. MSU's defense might be a bit better but overall they are just a meh team. Their offense lacks the potential explosion of Nebraska however, it's going to be tough for them to run the ball and Lewerke throwing a bunch is not going to end well in this game for them.

Agreed. I think on D we play them similar to how we played Nebraska. Put a spy on the QB and put Okudah on their best reciever. I just don't see them running the ball against us. We keep them to under 75 yds rushing. If the D does that there is no way they are going to pass their way to a victory.

I think that because we are going to see a lot of short drives from Sparty's Offense that this is going to put their D on the field quite a bit throughout the game. Late into the 3rd Quarter and the entire 4th Quarter I see them wearing down and our OL having their way with them.

GO BUCKS!
 
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