OSU_Buckguy;918663; said:
And there is no way Tressel is going to back out of a game against YSU at this point in time.
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And there is no way Tressel is going to back out of a game against YSU at this point in time.
CleveBucks
Serenity now
milkman21;918416; said:
Most SEC teams have demonstrated the preference of not leaving their conference footprint more often than not. The Big Ten, on the other hand, has had many teams travel out of the conference footprint. In the last five years:
2007:
OSU @ Washington
Wisconsin @ UNLV
Illinois @ Mizzou
Illinois @ Syracuse
Minnesota @ Florida Atlantic
2006:
OSU @ Texas
Illinois @ Rutgers
Iowa @ Syracuse
Minnesota @ Cal
Purdue @ Hawaii
Northwestern @ Nevada
2005:
Wisconsin @ North Carolina
Wisconsin @ Hawaii
Illinois @ Cal
Minnesota @ Tulsa
Purdue @ Arizona
Northwestern @ Arizona State
2004:
OSU @ NC State
Iowa @ Arizona State
Penn State @ Boston College
Wisconsin @ Arizona
Minnesota @ Colorado State
Indiana @ Oregon
Indiana @ Kentucky
Michigan State @ Rutgers
Northwestern @ TCU
Michigan State @ Hawaii
2003:
Michigan @ Oregon
Wisconsin @ West Virginia
Penn State @ Nebraska
Purdue @ Wake Forest
Indiana @ Washington
Indiana @ Uconn
Illinois @ UCLA
Northwestern @ Kansas
Northwestern @ Duke
By comparison, for the SEC:
2007:
Tenn @ Cal
Miss State @ West Virginia
SC @ NC
2006:
Vandy @ michigan
Miss @ Missouri
2005:
Vandy @ Wake
Arkansas @ USC
Kentucky @ Indiana
LSU @ Arizona State
Tenn @ Notre Dame
2004:
Vandy @ Navy
Miss @ Wyoming
2003:
Arkansas @ Texas
Miss State @ Houston
Alabama @ Hawaii
LSU @ Arizona
Vandy @ TCU
Kentucky @ Indiana
Total per year
Big Ten:
5 6 6 10 9
SEC:
3 2 5 2 6
When you throw in the bowl games, the disparity is even more pronounced.
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Man I don't care who we play just bring em on blow them off and bring on the next one. We are the Buckeyes.
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Jicster
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Jaxbuck;918383; said:
While UGA hasn't gone outside the South in a loooong time, that will be changing as early as next year. Georgia goes to Arizona State in 2008, Oklahoma State in 2009, Colorado in 2010, Louisville and Cincinnati in 2011, and Oregon in 2015. A home-and-home was also scheduled with Oregon State, but the Beavers backed out of it. Finally, Georgia's AD Damon Evans has said before that we have approached schools like Notre Dame and Michigan in the past and that, while they would love for Georgia to come to them, they do not want to play on the road in the SEC.
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HabaneroBuck
Non-Nike Design
Georgia has ASU in 2008 and we have USC, so 2008 makes no sense whatsoever. What happened with our California games (around 2013, I believe) that were dropped? Maybe we dropped Cali to get a home-and-home with Georgia in '12 and '13 instead? Don't know much about the circumstances, and I always thought the Cali games made a lot of sense, but Georgia makes a lot of sense, too.
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CleveBucks
Serenity now
Since Ohio State and Georgia are both going on the road out of conference next year, I can't see either agreeing to go on the road again to the other's place.
OSU dropped Cal from the 12-13 schedule, and I think Army is off too. Not sure if Army was replaced.
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milkman21
didn't you get that memo?
CleveBucks;918672; said:
This is really a strawman argument.
I am saying that you don't see the Big Ten play in SEC country (and vice versa), and you can't necessarily blame that on the SEC. You've demonstrated that the SEC doesn't travel as much as the Big Ten, but that isn't what I'm arguing here.
Look again at the data you've provided. There is precisely 1 Big Ten team visiting an SEC opponent in those games (Indiana --> Kentucky). On the other hand, there are 3 SEC Teams traveling to the Big Ten territory (Kentucky --> Indiana 2x, Vandy --> Michigan). You've really proven my point that the SEC might not be to blame here.
Look, I don't like the SEC... but I don't know enough about the game scheduling to say that they're to blame for not playing the Big Ten more often. It goes both ways, as I said before. I'd like to see more head-to-head match-ups, but at this point, one or both conferences are preventing this from happening.
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greyscarlet
Heisman
milkman21;920956; said:
No offense but how can you say you don't know enough about scheduling to say their to blame and then turn around and say it goes both ways?
I understand you're argument, I think. Generally, large schools will want a home and home split. If the non SEC teams will not accept playing in SEC territory to deal will be struck and the SEC looks like they don't travel.
It just seems too consistent that the SEC teams travel so much less.
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muffler dragon
Bien. Bien chiludo.
As far as I'm concerned, I think it would be a positive on and off the field for tOSU to play more big name OOC games. An increased level of competition helps to forge an even stronger team, and an increased exposure to other demographics would help with recruiting.
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sandgk
Watson, Crick & A Twist
On the off-topic issue of SEC and scheduling ... Let's put this in perspective - in the SEC
Tennessee will play anyone, anywhere - props to the Vols for their scheduling.
Kentucky, by and large has to play someone, somewhere.
Arkansas will probably NOT repeat their ex-SEC footprint excursion, that was much more about another team that will play anyone, anywhere - USC.
Vandy - who cares, Illinois has to play everyone all over the shop for similar reasons as Vandy. What counts is if and when you have the big guns going to play big guns.
On topic about Georgia and Ohio State -- If Georgia wants to come up and in so doing get Ohio State in a two-year series I say go for it. They are a big gun in their conference, as is tOSU in the Big 10.
Tennessee will play anyone, anywhere - props to the Vols for their scheduling.
Kentucky, by and large has to play someone, somewhere.
Arkansas will probably NOT repeat their ex-SEC footprint excursion, that was much more about another team that will play anyone, anywhere - USC.
Vandy - who cares, Illinois has to play everyone all over the shop for similar reasons as Vandy. What counts is if and when you have the big guns going to play big guns.
On topic about Georgia and Ohio State -- If Georgia wants to come up and in so doing get Ohio State in a two-year series I say go for it. They are a big gun in their conference, as is tOSU in the Big 10.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
CleveBucks;920937; said:
You have to be kidding me. Why, so we could add another frickin' MAC school? Why don't we leave the Big Ten and just make it official and join the MAC. As far as I'm concerned, we've lost all right to rip on Notre Dame for winning the Commander in Chief's trophy.
Heaven forbid we actually play a game that out of state alumni might want to attend. Ridiculous.
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ORD_Buckeye;921053; said:
Are you even aware that OSU plays USC in '08 and '09 and Miami(FL) in '10 and '11?
Are you complaining that we dropped Cal 5 years out without even knowing who they're being replaced with? Seriously?
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