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Ohio State Men's Tennis (2014/2019/2024 ITA Indoor National Champs, 17 Straight B1G Titles)

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Re. Order of lineup for UVA, Altamirano did not play in the fall so does not have many ITA wins to be ranked in their system.
Team Lineups are set by coaches, It's really an honor system, two factors,
1. Players within the team compete against each other for placement. Better players want to play in the prime spots.
2. If opponents think a coach is sandbagging (archaic term that reveals my age and time of college competition), they can challenge lineups at tournaments, critical matches etc.
UTR is probably the better way to understand player strength
and acc to UTR the UVA team is loaded, not much separation in 1-6.
 
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gracelhink said:
Re. Order of lineup for UVA, Altamirano did not play in the fall so does not have many ITA wins to be ranked in their system.
Team Lineups are set by coaches, It's really an honor system, two factors,
1. Players within the team compete against each other for placement. Better players want to play in the prime spots.
2. If opponents think a coach is sandbagging (archaic term that reveals my age and time of college competition), they can challenge lineups at tournaments, critical matches etc.
UTR is probably the better way to understand player strength
and acc to UTR the UVA team is loaded, not much separation in 1-6.
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Regarding UTR: I asked this question earlier in the thread, but I'll try again. According to the numbers for Virginia, Altamirano would be playing 5th based on his UTR, but he is at #1. Why the discrepancy between that number and where Altamirano plays in the lineup? Ohio State has a couple slightly different than the lineup as well (like swapping Wolf and Di Feo, or swapping Joyce and Seelig; but in both those cases the player with more experience from last year is ahead of the new addition to the lineup), but for Virginia I was surprised to see 4 guys with higher UTR's than Altamirano. I know nothing about the UTR, though, so maybe there is more to it. Thanks for any insight.

............................UVA .......................................... OSU

#1 ...Collin Altamirano (14.33 UTR) ........Mikael Torpegaard (15.21 UTR). OSU +.88
#2 ...Thai-Son Kwiatkowski (14.87 UTR)..Hugo Di Feo (14.02 UTR)........... UVA +.85
#3 ...Carl Soderlund (14.61 UTR) ...........JJ Wolf (14.42 UTR) ................. UVA +.19
#4 ...JC Aragone (14.43 UTR).................Herkko Pollanen (13.96 UTR) .... UVA +.47
#5 ...Alex Ritschard (14.56 UTR).............Martin Joyce (13.63 UTR) ......... UVA +.93
#6 ...Henrik Wiersholm (14.32 UTR)........Kyle Seelig (13.93 UTR) ........... UVA +.39
 
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In the case of early season lineup positioning, the bigger factor for singles line would not be UTR but head to head competition within team practices.
I would assume CA "won" the UVA inter squad round robin.
Later in the season coaches might feel compelled to move players based on record in matches.
Borland may need to move tsk up to #1 and drop CA in the future, especially if he is challenged based on player performance.
When I checked the UTR, however, there are only 18 teams that have a higher first singles UTR than CA at UVA, and no other team has more than 2 above the 14.3 UTR threshold. (So it's difficult to accuse them of sandbagging).
UVa is loaded and living with the luxury of having 6 players at 14.32 and above.
(They are absolutely killing it in recruiting as opposed to Tucker who is earning cred for player development rather than facilities and univ reputation).
The addition of McNally and Wolfe for 2017 is huge shift for the Bucks, as they are beginning to win some head to head recruiting battles with the tennis elites like USC, uva, Florida, unc, and Duke.
 
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Ohio State jumps to No. 2 in ITA rankings

February 22, 2017 12:04 ET

The Ohio State Buckeyes moved from No. 3 to No. 2 in this week's rankings, with Virginia maintaining its perch in the top spot.

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/tennis-men/d1/ita

We can play with those guys (i.e. UVa). A ball or 2 just bouncing the other way was the difference despite losing the doubles point.

Ohio State is definitely a serious contender for the NCAA Championships in May (which hopefully won't be in Charlottesville, VA).
 
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gracelhink said:
(They are absolutely killing it in recruiting as opposed to Tucker who is earning cred for player development rather than facilities and univ reputation).
The addition of McNally and Wolfe for 2017 is huge shift for the Bucks, as they are beginning to win some head to head recruiting battles with the tennis elites like USC, uva, Florida, unc, and Duke.
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Yeah, but it is an easier win when they are from Ohio.....:biggrin:

Next year should be really interesting if all the underclassmen come back. Torpegaard and Di DFeo could easily be the #1 and #2 rated college players in the country. Herkko Pollanen is the only senior and you have to think McNally will be an upgrade as he was rated above JJ Wolf. In addition, McNally and Wolf was a highly rated doubles team.
 
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Excited for next year's edition also. Tucker will develop athletes as well as anyone on pro or ncaa circuit. McNally and Wolf will be primary beneficiaries of his craft.
I believe DiFeo is the real deal. He doesn't have the weapons like Torp, but he will out work anyone.
Torp is listed as a junior in eligibility but he is 5 years out of h.s. and will be 23 in May.
He has earned and forfeited prize money at 2016 pro tourneys @ $20,000. I selfishly want Torp back next year to set records in the archives.
If this were the football forum, most bp ers would miss him but say torp needs to go get paid next year.
 
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Torp is listed as a junior in eligibility but he is 5 years out of h.s. and will be 23 in May.
He has earned and forfeited prize money at 2016 pro tourneys @ $20,000. I selfishly want Torp back next year to set records in the archives.
If this were the football forum, most bp ers would miss him but say torp needs to go get paid next year.
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I have no idea what his chances are to develop into "a winner/contender or at least a top player on the pro circuit" and/or how much another year playing college tennis would improve on those chances.

However, I will say that in the real world as well as the world of professional tennis $20,000 isn't all that much. Coming back and finishing up on his bachelor's degree and/or getting a masters degree could be worth a whole lot more than that (i.e. every year) over the course of his life.
 
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In the case of early season lineup positioning, the bigger factor for singles line would not be UTR but head to head competition within team practices.
I would assume CA "won" the UVA inter squad round robin.
Later in the season coaches might feel compelled to move players based on record in matches.
Borland may need to move tsk up to #1 and drop CA in the future, especially if he is challenged based on player performance.
When I checked the UTR, however, there are only 18 teams that have a higher first singles UTR than CA at UVA, and no other team has more than 2 above the 14.3 UTR threshold. (So it's difficult to accuse them of sandbagging).
UVa is loaded and living with the luxury of having 6 players at 14.32 and above.
(They are absolutely killing it in recruiting as opposed to Tucker who is earning cred for player development rather than facilities and univ reputation).
The addition of McNally and Wolfe for 2017 is huge shift for the Bucks, as they are beginning to win some head to head recruiting battles with the tennis elites like USC, uva, Florida, unc, and Duke.
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I didn't mean to imply anything like sandbagging. I don't think that is what's going on. I guess my question was more like, how much difference in level is there between a 14.3 and a 14.8? Maybe at that level the difference is so marginal that having guys shuffled in various positions isn't that significant. On any given day anyone at that level can beat anyone, probably.

Anyway, regardless of where they play, Virginia is loaded across the board. With as much talent as they have I was very pleased with how closely OSU played them. If Pollanen had pulled out his tiebreaker, we were well positioned to win the match.
 
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SATURDAY SPOTLIGHT: MEET MIKAEL TORPEGAARD, ORACLE/ITA DIVISION I MEN'S NATIONAL SINGLES TOP-RANKED PLAYER AND TWO-TIME ALL-AMERICAN

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Welcome to Saturday Spotlight! Here, we dive deep into the lives of Ohio State student-athletes and learn more about their journeys to Columbus, their love of the Buckeye traditions and who they are as competitors and students.

As a native of Virum, Denmark, Ohio State men's junior tennis player Mikael Torpegaard is on a mission to prove his doubters wrong.

After taking down Wake Forest’s Petros Chrysochos in a three-set match decided in a tie-breaker this past weekend, Torpegaard now sits in a tie for the top-ranked spot in the Oracle/ITA Division I Men's National Singles rankings on the nation's second-ranked squad, and was named Big Ten Athlete of the Week.



Now in his third year in Columbus, is looking to help the Buckeyes to their first ever team national championship later this spring. We sat down with Mikael this week to discuss his transition from Europe, guitar skills and much more.

When did you realize you might have a chance to play tennis at the collegiate level?

Mikael Torpegaard: When I was traveling my last year as a junior, I traveled all around the world, played a lot of tournaments and I got a lot of offers from a lot of schools from all over America. In my mind, I had two opportunities after high school — one being going pro directly after, and another being going to college. I’m 18-years-old at the time, and the Danish Tennis Federation doesn’t fund anything after you turn 18 and become a senior and that’s when you need support the most; So I was forced to go to college and take that route. I remember the first college coach that asked me if I ever considered college tennis, and I said, “HAH! No chance I end up in college” because in my country, people have the standing that college is where good players go to die and never amount to anything after. Right now, it’s an unbelievable feeling to prove them wrong, and try to show them that college is actually a stepping stone to going pro after — and I couldn’t be happier to have come to college.

What drew you to come to Ohio State outside of tennis?

MT: I think what did it the most is that (coach) Ty (Tucker) separated himself from pretty quickly from other coaches around. The fact that he showed so much interest and care before I even got to college, he constantly kept up to date with what I was doing, and that was a great feeling knowing you have a coach that really cares. I wanted to use college as a stepping-stone to going pro, and I still do. The end goal of my career is going professional, and seeing that Ohio State has previously developed professional athletes in tennis, it was really interesting to me when I had to choose between the last few colleges.

Entire article: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-athletics/2017/02/80294/saturday-spotlight-meet

Great article/interview.....
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........ with Herkko on the drums
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http://admin.floridagators.com/sports/2017/1/20/tennis-live-video-stats.aspx

Ohio State at Florida today.. Lost the doubles point but has come back to win 2 of the singles matches that have been completed thus far. The other 4 singles matches are awfully tight so this one is going to come down to who wants it the most or serves the best.

Edit: remaining 4 singles matches are all going to 3 sets. Too close to call but the Buckeyes are looking good..
 
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