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Game Thread Ohio State 38, Toledo 0 (Sep 19, Browns Stadium)

Jaxbuck;1543221; said:
The Troy game may not have been the best example but the 2005 game after the Texas loss (SDSU iirc) was an absolute snooze fest. The MSU game after the PSU loss that year was shaping up quite badly until Sparty decided to be Sparty and the FG was blocked.


The article mentioned the SDSU game, but I couldn't get over the Troy comment. The team played well that game, and it was also the game TP solidified the starting QB position. Just looking at the recap or drive summary, the writer would realize what happened, and that Troy's only points came in the first half. As a journalist, albeit not a Buckeye follower, you should know that TP had a breakout game. The final score should be an indication of what happened. It wasn't hard for me to look up last year's stats from that game, and I'm studying to be a journalist.
 
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How has Ohio State done over the years following a soul-crushing regular season loss? There haven’t been many, but the team was sleepwalking through a lifeless game against Troy last year and got pushed.

pushed? Ohio State led the whole game and won 28-10

no mention that Troy was kicking the shit out of LSU for a majority of that game of course
 
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Thought we'd learn to take early season opponents seriously after our showing against Navy. Guess not.

This should be a really good game. You can look at the Rockets as just another MAC team, but this is also a team that has beaten their share of BCS teams in the last decade: Colorado ('09), at scUM ('08), Iowa State ('07), Kansas ('06), Larry Fitzgerald and #9 Pittsburgh ('03), Minnesota ('01), Cincinatti ('01), at Penn State ('00), as well as a host of Mountian West teams and a home and away against Navy ('00-'01). To say the least, the scUM game last year wasn't a fluke. This game being in Cleveland rather than the Glass Bowl in Toledo is a BIG break for OSU, as Toledo has great home-field advantages there (best attendance in the MAC, great accoustics, the games are almost always night games, and seriously half of the crowd is made of rowdy students). The NCAA actually had to institute a new rule 7-8 years ago (in large part because of Toledo) that states that teams are no longer allowed to locate their student sections behind the opposing team's bench". You can imagine what kids might say to get in a player's head when sitting behind the opposing team's bench 40 feet away from their players.

Their offense revolves a lot around the screen, especially the WR screen. They love to throw it and Opelt is gonna be one of the best the Bucks play this year. He's got a strong, accurate throw with a pretty tight spiral that his WRs complain about because I hear he tears holes in their gloves on a pretty regular basis. Their receiving corps is traditionally made of smaller targets with great hands (alumni Lance Moore is a good example), but 10 of the 11 receivers on their team this year are listed at 6'1" or better. This is a team that utilzes their TE as a potent weapon (especially on 3rd down), so we should be prepared for that going into the game. They also traditionally boast the largest O-Line in the MAC (both height and weight), though their current crop seem significantly smaller than in past years (I remember the average for their hogmollies one year was 6'6", 310lbs). Toledo's running game keeps defenses from keying in on the passing game (UT is 60/40 passing, traditionally) and is built more on power than speed, surprisingly. Former Buckeye recruit of interest at RB is Morgan Williams (BP Thread) and he is not their starter, which shows how good their RBs are. Notable recent alumni on offense include RB Chester Taylor (MIN), OL Nick Kaczur (NE), WR Lance Moore (NO), and QB Bruce Gradkowski (OAK, former starter in TB).

The X-Factor here will be new head coach (and former OSU assistant) Tim Beckman. He knows Ohio State from the inside, he knows their tendancies, and he knows a good deal of the players personally. On top of that, he changes Toledo's tendacies, which is why I used the word "traditionally" so much above. Are they still gonna be 60/40 passing to running? Is their offense still going to revolve around the screen? Are they still going to go for it on 4th down as much as they did when "Toledo Tom" (Amstutz) was still coach? Etc. It all remains to be seen.

Their defense is obviously their achileas heal this year. FS Barry Church is being regarded as the best safety ever at the school (3x 1st team All-MAC and soon-to be 4x). Their best player in the front 7 is a LB (can't remember his name right now!) that may or may not be able to play this game, as he had a helmet-to-helmet hit against Colorado's QB late in the game on a TD run. This year's defense looks quite a bit slower than past years, but they traditionally have a hard-hitting group of LBs that are tackle machines, and CBs that have great hands because they go up against a pass-heavy spread offense every day in practice.

If the line for this game is +20.5 for Toledo, I'll take UT. Toledo's defense is pretty bad, but our offense isn't exactly Floridas either. That said though, this should be a good game for Pryor to rebound from the USC game and show what he's all about. Either way, I'm wearing an Ohio State shirt under the suit I'm wearing to a wedding this weekend =)
 
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Good analysis. I said long before the season started that this will be a trap game. I think we'll win, but somehow I get the feeling that we'll struggle a wee bit more than we should. Opelt is an excellent QB, and the recievers and O-line are not too shabby themselves. Of course, our defense had a great game against USC...really, played well against Navy except fr the last 5 minutes. All in all, our defense will carry the offense for 2/3 of the game IMO. Maybe get a blocked punt or two, pick six would be nice.

BTW, my ISP sucks and doesn't have ESPN360. Sooo, PPV SD coverage is on the menu for me. Son of a bitch.
 
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BB73;1543421; said:
The BP preview has been posted on the home page.

Toledo Game Preview

Toledo Additional Info


DE #40 Alex Johnson (6-2, 244, Jr.)
DT #56 Derrick Summers (6-2, 258, Sr.)
DT #98 Maurice Hill (6-2, 286, Sr.)
DE (Leo) #58 Douglas Westbrook (6-3, 233, Jr.)


tOSU should have 300+ yards rushing no questions asked. Hopefully we will get to see Hall and Berry for some of those rushing yards.
 
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EDDIE GGGG27;1543428; said:
DE #40 Alex Johnson (6-2, 244, Jr.)
DT #56 Derrick Summers (6-2, 258, Sr.)
DT #98 Maurice Hill (6-2, 286, Sr.)
DE (Leo) #58 Douglas Westbrook (6-3, 233, Jr.)


tOSU should have 300+ yards rushing no questions asked. Hopefully we will get to see Hall and Berry for some of those rushing yards.

Purdue gashed them for 315 yards on the ground (535 total)

Bolden 21 for 234 (11.1 average) and Taylor 14 for 81 (5.8 average)

Colorado was playing from behind most of the game so they were throwing most of the game (356 passing yards) their HBs- Scott 12 for 85 (7.1 average) Sumler 4 for 20 (5 average)
 
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BuckTwenty;1543274; said:
Thought we'd learn to take early season opponents seriously after our showing against Navy. Guess not.

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I've read this whole thread and I get the impression that there are a large number of people on the board that are expecting Toledo to give the Buckeyes trouble. If anything, it looks to me like Toledo is getting more respect than is warranted given that their resume comprises two games against awful teams.

And how were we to have learned the lesson, considering the fact that Buckeye Planet took Navy very seriously overall?

If there is something specific you're referring to, feel free to point it out. But if this is your general impression of the tone of the board, my impression is very different.
 
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Toledo is a better team than some of the cupcakes we have played in years past ( ex. YSU ) but if the defense plays like it did last saturday and the offense picks it up throughtout the game i dont see why this is not a 35-7 game or somewhere in that range.
 
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I think most would agree that this game could be something like 21-7 going into the 4th, where the Bucks will end up trashing them, maybe get around 40 points.

When I say they'll struggle, I mean we will take a while to warm up, not struggle to win.
 
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I know a lot of people who go to UT. 80% of them are going and wearing Ohio State gear.

It'll be interesting to see the Bucks' response. I still think that we have a great shot at running the table and it starts Saturday. No looking back and picking apart what should have happened last Saturday. If we're focused on Toledo, I don't believe it'll be a game for long. UT has an offense that can move the ball, but I'm not too worried about the defense.
 
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