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Game Thread Ohio State 3, Southern Cal 35 (Sept. 13)

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methomps;1246423; said:
So I see Wells is averaging one fumble every 13 carries this season. That has to be a cause for concern :biggrin:
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Yes, but he's also averaging 111 yards & a TD per 13 totes...

So if we get him the ball 26 times, that'll give him approx. 222 yards and 2 TDs to go with the 2 drops (which I say we'll recover at least one of them and our D will minimize the damage from the other)...

I can live with that. :wink2:

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Browning's pass protection issues extend into the season (first year starter).

Devier Posey's high praise out of camp translated nicely in the first game. He was expected to be right in the mix after the Brian's.

Ray Small finally has it together again. He had his number taken away (4, now 82) while in the doghouse. His performance on and off the field is finally where it needs to be.

Tyler Moeller is another practice star who has seen little action. He's a S/LB hybrid who lines up largely as the 3rd LB who can cover ('star' position), and brings physicality and pressure to a defense which lacked that at times last year. He was very impressive in the last game, playing fast, instinctive, disruptive and physical out there.

Those are some of the bigger ones...

Jermale Hines played well above expectations subbing for Kurt Coleman, but that was also against a limited offense.
 
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The national media is already lining up behind the Trojans. Everyone on "Rome is Burning" just said that tOSU has no chance, especially if Beanie doesn't play.

Their main argument was because of how USC looked against Virgina, who probably isn't that much better than OU.
 
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BuckeyeTillIDie;1246651; said:
The national media is already lining up behind the Trojans. Everyone on "Rome is Burning" just said that tOSU has no chance, especially if Beanie doesn't play.

Their main argument was because of how USC looked against Virgina, who probably isn't that much better than OU.
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Im a lifelong USC fan and even I have difficulty drinking that much of the Kool Aid. Virginia just was not that good, period. I dont mean that as a slight to the Cavs, but you can come to conclusions about SC based on a game played against a team with no offense, no defense, and no special teams. Had SC come out and demolished a Top 15 team Id be sold, but they didnt so I remain cautious in my predictions.
 
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It is easy to look at the raw scores and stats of the two games and to say, "USC is going to kill Ohio State".

I did not see much of the USC-UVA game, so I cannot really comment on that. But several things need pointed out:

1. Ohio State played a lot of different guys, gave many of them a significant number of snaps, and all of that happened early. It was almost as if Tressel was treating this as some sort of scrimmage rather than an actual game.

2. We know that JT rarely tips much of his hand early in the season. Ohio State under Jim Tressel always seem to underperform in early season games against lesser opponents. Yet when the big ones roll around, the Buckeyes are right in it as JT pulls trump cards from his sleve.

3. USC always seems to absolutely destory their first opponent of the year. It seems that PC may be the anti-JT. He seems to come out with all guns ablaze. I can see the value in this, it gives your team lots of confidence and establishes a nasty reputation that puts fear into the heart of your opponents. I am not endorsing PC's style over JT's, only noting the differences.

4. I'd be willing to bet that for much of the fall camp and for the practices leading up to these first two games, much time has been spent preparing for USC. In turn, the team may have led to Ohio State underperforming against YSU. This is kind of speculative because I have no idea what they have spent time on.

JT has the Buckeyes coming into this game exactly where JT's teams seem to excel the most: when they are decided underdogs. I still give USC a slight advantage, but only because of home field advantage and the questionable status of Beanie. Home field advantage is as much of a mental thing as it is a physical thing, so that can be overcome with good game prep. Other than that, if Beanie is back 100%, I do not think USC holds any particular advantage over the Buckeyes.
 
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WyoBuckeye;1246715; said:
It is easy to look at the raw scores and stats of the two games and to say, "USC is going to kill Ohio State".

I did not see much of the USC-UVA game, so I cannot really comment on that. But several things need pointed out:

1. Ohio State played a lot of different guys, gave many of them a significant number of snaps, and all of that happened early. It was almost as if Tressel was treating this as some sort of scrimmage rather than an actual game.

2. We know that JT rarely tips much of his hand early in the season. Ohio State under Jim Tressel always seem to underperform in early season games against lesser opponents. Yet when the big ones roll around, the Buckeyes are right in it as JT pulls trump cards from his sleve.

3. USC always seems to absolutely destory their first opponent of the year. It seems that PC may be the anti-JT. He seems to come out with all guns ablaze. I can see the value in this, it gives your team lots of confidence and establishes a nasty reputation that puts fear into the heart of your opponents. I am not endorsing PC's style over JT's, only noting the differences.

4. I'd be willing to bet that for much of the fall camp and for the practices leading up to these first two games, much time has been spent preparing for USC. In turn, the team may have led to Ohio State underperforming against YSU. This is kind of speculative because I have no idea what they have spent time on.

JT has the Buckeyes coming into this game exactly where JT's teams seem to excel the most: when they are decided underdogs. I still give USC a slight advantage, but only because of home field advantage and the questionable status of Beanie. Home field advantage is as much of a mental thing as it is a physical thing, so that can be overcome with good game prep. Other than that, if Beanie is back 100%, I do not think USC holds any particular advantage over the Buckeyes.
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In past years, the USC MO has been to blow out OOC opponents, underperform against Pac Ten foes and then blow out their BCS opponent (save for Texas!) Carroll likes to come out and kill OOC teams but the Trojans usually dont look as good during Pac Ten play.

That said, this game will be close and Id be ready to put good money on the winner being victorious by a TD or less.　I will truly be shocked if it's a blowout either way.
 
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Jay Marriotti said we'll be pummeled. Even though this bullshit is annoying, we could not ask for a better set-up. USC has a bye week so there's no chance they come out flat next week and the hype machine gets dialed down. USC is now the unbeatable opponent. Beating them will look even more impressive than it did before the season started.
 
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with all the banter going on about UVA, we need to keep in mind that the Cavs were outgained 452-100 BY FREAKING WYOMING in their opener last year. this UVA team is so bad that Phil Steele picked them to finish dead last in the Coastal Division, BEHIND DUKE!
 
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I haven't had a chance to watch it again (torrent just finished downloading :biggrin:), but here's the off the top of my head stories that the stats don't tell:

1. DEPTH. We've got it, and it's almost unfair. We were able to make wholesale substitutions on both sides of the ball without any noticeable difference in the results. There were so many new numbers on the field, you had to have a media guide to keep track.

2. Mature Defense. This D plays contain so well, it was nearly impossible to gain positive yards. Even on the spread/misdrection plays, the edge defender was able to string it out until help arrived (quickly). Running against the Buckeyes will be very hard. It's hard to tell from TV how the pass coverage was, but it didn't look like the YSU QB had too many options. There was good pressure along the LOS in pass and run plays.

3. New Wrinkles on O. Pryor brings a whole new dimension. He has some option plays he ran effectively with Saine and MoWells. Very good at selling the fake handoff. Can also pass the ball, but did not attempt a deep ball.

4. Solid Special Teams. Only 1 kickoff did not reach the endzone. Perfect on FGs. Good coverage on kickoffs (no punts). Return game improved from last year.

5. DEPTH. It's so good, it's worth mentioning again.

The play calling was very bland, but OSU dominated the head to head matchups. Execution was solid, especially on D, where it was near perfect.
 
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