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Game Thread Ohio State 3, Southern Cal 35 (Sept. 13)

Sanchez making progress
08-15-2008 6:27 p.m.

Mark Sanchez threw and performed simulated pocket movement on a side field with rehabilitation coordinator John Meyer during Friday’s practice, and Coach Carroll said he’s continually impressed with the quarterback’s progress.

“He’s doing great,” Carroll said of Sanchez, who’s one week removed from a dislocated knee cap injury. “The doctors couldn’t be more happy. He’ll be doing stuff by the middle of next week, that’s my guess.”

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methomps;1231288; said:
On the forums, yes. Where it counts? No. If Mark Sanchez plays against Virginia and isn't totally outclassed by Mustain, Pete Carroll will start Sanchez against Ohio State.

So in your estimation based off Sanchez beating Mustian in practice it will take an unusual situation to see MM start.
 
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Yeah, the offensive philosophy is still going to be the same. SC is a pro-style offense that uses mostly zone blocking schemes and tries to create mismatches through different formations and motion. The overall offense looks the same. The only difference will be the individual player strengths. Last year Fred Davis carried the offense. We were inexperienced at WR, FB, and RB. We had a veteran QB. Our experience on the line was nullified by injuries.

This year we have inexperience at the QB position, oline, and TE. I think SC will try to see if FB Stanley Havili can create mismatches in the receiving game. Depending on the progress of the oline, our rushing game could be the strength this year with Stafon Johnson, CJ Gable, and Joe McKnight all contributing different styles.

The WRs are very experienced, but its time to see consistent production from them (cough Patrick Turner cough). Vidal Hazelton played well last year with a misdiagnosed stomach muscle tear, so I'm excited to see what he can do at full strength and with another year of experience. His ability to run after the catch could make him a favorite target of Sanchez. Ronald Johnson and (if healthy) Travon Patterson should give us an ability to stretch the field that we really, really missed last year. If Mustain is in the game, Damian Williams becomes our most important receiver as they played together in HS and at Arkansas. Even with Sanchez, big things are expected of Williams.

Tight end is an unknown. Blake Ayles looks to have a bright future, but I don't know where he will be on Sept. 13. McCoy is not going to replicate Fred Davis 2007, but he has potential as a receiver.
 
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methomps;1231301; said:
Yeah, the offensive philosophy is still going to be the same. SC is a pro-style offense that uses mostly zone blocking schemes and tries to create mismatches through different formations and motion. The overall offense looks the same. The only difference will be the individual player strengths. Last year Fred Davis carried the offense. We were inexperienced at WR, FB, and RB. We had a veteran QB. Our experience on the line was nullified by injuries.

This year we have inexperience at the QB position, oline, and TE. I think SC will try to see if FB Stanley Havili can create mismatches in the receiving game. Depending on the progress of the oline, our rushing game could be the strength this year with Stafon Johnson, CJ Gable, and Joe McKnight all contributing different styles.

The WRs are very experienced, but its time to see consistent production from them (cough Patrick Turner cough). Vidal Hazelton played well last year with a misdiagnosed stomach muscle tear, so I'm excited to see what he can do at full strength and with another year of experience. His ability to run after the catch could make him a favorite target of Sanchez. Ronald Johnson and (if healthy) Travon Patterson should give us an ability to stretch the field that we really, really missed last year. If Mustain is in the game, Damian Williams becomes our most important receiver as they played together in HS and at Arkansas. Even with Sanchez, big things are expected of Williams.

Tight end is an unknown. Blake Ayles looks to have a bright future, but I don't know where he will be on Sept. 13. McCoy is not going to replicate Fred Davis 2007, but he has potential as a receiver.

Thanks for the analysis, Methomps. If your FB can be a big threat out of the backfeild, that could be a big weapon. Our guys don't seem to respect the underneath routes. Hopefully, they will catch on. Am I wrong in thinking that Sanchez and Mustain are not that far apart in terms of ability? I've heard that Sanchez was badass in HS, but Mustain has more college experience (8 starts at Ark). Will there be a big hoopla if Mustain gets the first start over Sanchez?
 
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generaladm;1231325; said:
Thanks for the analysis, Methomps. If your FB can be a big threat out of the backfeild, that could be a big weapon. Our guys don't seem to respect the underneath routes. Hopefully, they will catch on. Am I wrong in thinking that Sanchez and Mustain are not that far apart in terms of ability? I've heard that Sanchez was badass in HS, but Mustain has more college experience (8 starts at Ark). Will there be a big hoopla if Mustain gets the first start over Sanchez?

I think we will see two general ways in which Havili will be used as a receiver. The first will be the underneath routes from his FB position on play action or delayed release plays. He will be the primary receiver on many of these play-action plays where the QB fakes to the HB, then rolls out and finds Havili in the flats.

The other way you will see him in the passing game is lined up at the WR position. This will usually be the result of a pre-snap motion where he starts at FB and then motions to WR, but it may also be where goes straight from the huddle to the WR position. This is tremendous for SC because it gives them the ability to be very flexible with the same personnel grouping. They can switch from an I-formation to trips WRs with the same people on the field. In these cases, SC will be looking to see how OSU reacts and who they put on Havili.

You can see examples of this at :15 and :35 of this video:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVUDBZgw6Jc&feature=related]YouTube - Stanley Havili's Freshman Season at USC[/ame]

Sanchez and Mustain are not that far apart in terms of ability. Mustain can make all the throws in the offense. But Sanchez two extra years in the system, so he runs it better. He is also a more vocal and fiery leader, whereas Mustain leads through poise and focus.

It won't be a big surprise if Mustain starts the Virginia game. It will be uncomfortable for Sanchez, but at the same time Sanchez remembers what happened last year. He remembers that Booty was the starter and regained the role when he came back from injury. That's not to say there is nothing Mustain can do, but he would have to shock the coaches to shut the door on Sanchez.
 
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