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Official Cleveland Browns Draft Thread

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I'm sure Quinn is a 3rd or 4th round pick.

That guy doesn't have a clue in hell what hes talking about.

February 9, 2007

How come Brady Quinn's vanishing act in big games is not hurting his stock more than it is? He would pad his stats against inferior competition, but when it came down to a big game or bowl game, his passes seemed erratic and he seemed rattled and unimpressive.

Sam, A.K.A. "A Concerned Browns Fan"

I think it is hurting his stock but for the most part scouts are smart enough to realize there were mitigating circumstances and reasons for why Quinn fared poorly against top opponents.

Here are a few of them:

1) A Terrible Defense - Do you realize that Brady Quinn could have led his team to 40 points and STILL lost to Michigan, USC and L.S.U. this past year? To score 40 points against a MAC team is pretty impressive but do to it against some of the elite teams in the country is downright impossible. Unfortunately that is the position Quinn and the Irish were put in by their defense in each and every one of those "big" games.

2) Pressure - The fact of the matter is Brady Quinn was never given the opportunity to play a "normal" game against any of the top teams he faced this past year because he was always coming from behind. Instead of running a normal offense Quinn was constantly having to try and make up for the huge deficits his defenses put them in. That means pass, pass, pass, which is a nightmare situation for quarterbacks because defenses can simply pin their ears back and rush / blitz with little or no fear of the run game. It's not a stretch to say that in those big games in 2006 Quinn had to lead his teams to a score on basically every time he had the ball. Oh, and he had to do it against some of the premier defenses in the nation.

3) Bad Offensive Line - There is no denying that Quinn did not get very good protection from his offensive line this year and I defy anyone to watch that Michigan game and tell me he was given a fair opportunity to make plays by his guys up front. Constant pressure will make any quarterback look bad, from Joe Montana to Tom Brady, and that was often the case for Quinn in '06.

4) Shouldn't Have Been in the Bowl Games They Were - The Irish were blown out of their last two bowl games but if they weren't "Notre Dame" would they have even been in BCS Bowls like the Fiesta and Sugar? Possibly not. Also, as many pundits like to point out whenever given the chance, Notre Dame simply doesn't have the speed or talent to be on the same field as teams like Ohio St. and L.S.U. so why is everyone surprised when they got their doors blown off by arguably two of three best and most talented teams in the nation? Maybe Quinn just did the best he could with a vastly inferior team?

Now I'm not trying to make excuses for Quinn and he certainly hasn't made them for himself but the bottom line is that the Irish losing those games was not all Quinn's fault and to say it was would be ignoring the facts. Quinn is receiving the "Matt Leinart Treatment" this year and probably has it even worse because he played for the team that everybody loves to hate but in the end he's still going to go very high and eventually be one of the league's top quarterbacks.

- Scott Wright, NFL Draft Countdown
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I'm sure Quinn is a 3rd or 4th round pick.

That guy doesn't have a clue in hell what hes talking about.
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actually, he's quoting NFL scouts. but, since they talked poorly about your man-crush, they're clueless as well.

as far as scott wright's counterpoints:

2. quinn had 1 pick 6, another int returned to the 5, and a fumble returned for a TD. He dug that hole himself. He also laid an egg for the first half of the usc game. throwing the blame on his teammates is a copout at best.
 
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Browns | Team lacking continuity
Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:23:42 -0800
Patrick McManamon, of the Akron Beacon Journal, reports <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/13/nfl">Cleveland Browns DL Orpheus Roye, CB Daylon McCutcheon and PK Phil Dawson are the only starters remaining on the team's roster in the last five years.

Browns | Team interested in Russell?
Sun, 11 Feb 2007 06:15:07 -0800
Tony Grossi, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/13/nfl">Cleveland Browns owner Randy Lerner reportedly told a local television station that he would like to select LSU QB JaMarcus Russell with the team's No. 1 pick in April's NFL Draft.
 
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king rhabuf;748890; said:
I'm sure Quinn is a 3rd or 4th round pick.​



That guy doesn't have a clue in hell what hes talking about.​
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ESPiN's NFL Live just finished discussing whether BQ is a great pick for Cleveland. The last guy said he makes perfect sense because he is the most NFL-ready QB in this draft, and attempted to support this assertion by claiming Leinart was the most NFL-ready QB of last year's draft.
Unfortunately, I disagree on both parts. Cutler was probably the most NFL-ready signal caller out of last year's draft with VY right there. Nothing about Leinart impressed me all year, despite having a ton of talent around him at the skill positions. IMO, Leinart is not a shoe-in as a starting QB yet, he's still getting by on his potential and needs to make some improvement over the next year or two.
As for Quinn, he has done nothing to impress me yet. His arm is marginal at best by NFL standards (like Leinart), and he does not have the "it" factor (Vince and Troy) nor strikes me as a very hard-working kid with his head in the right place who can lift up a subpar team. (Cutler, maybe Stanton)
 
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I cannot be convinced that any QB, Peterson or even LT himself ... would be worth a crap until there is a line to protect or block for them...

So until we have a line... forget skill players behind them -- it's a waste of talent and money...
 
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