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Official Browns, Steelers, & Bengals Trashtalk Thread (Merged All future threads)

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buckeyefool said:
No response to My ramblings oiler?
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I expect that my feelings on most of these topics are well documented in Bengal threads all over the board, but since you kindly asked for a response...

buckeyefool said:
Oiler with all do respect you are a dumbass.
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You don't have to give me due respect...If you want to call names, you can just do it. There's really no reason to try to sweeten it up. I thought that line was a pretty funny way to start the post. Not just for the misspelling, either.

buckeyefool said:
Seems that you think becuase a few people who were at the game said they saw bottles being thrown it was a fact. Well I was at the game and I can tell you My Dad's seats are in the North Endzone and I didn't see any bottles being thrown.

On some of these same message boards people are claiming that Kimo's hit was intentional, well if you want to give credance to the bottle throwing remarks then in response the Kimo hit comments have to be true to.
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Apples, meet oranges. Kimo's hit happened. There is visual evidence and no disputing that. His intent cannot be judged or measured in any way, however. You are debating whether or not fans threw bottles. This CAN be judged or measured based on visual evidence. If we were debating the fan's intent, that is an entirely different story. I've got friends in Findlay who are Steelers fans and were at the game...they tell me it happened, as did the announcers. It wasn't on a terribly large scale, as the incident in Cleveland, because it was quickly brought under control by security.

This all doesn't change my assertion that there are a percentage of sports fans, in general, that are idiots. If you get enough drunken, passionate, fans in a group on a regular basis, there are going to be problems.

buckeyefool said:
The Steelers players in general came off as assholes in that gmae. They were taunting the crowd after the Palmer injury. Cupping their hands to their ears encouraging fans to boo them louder. Tom Jackson said after the game that night on NDFL primetime that the Steelers players are know for getting "a little Chippy" on road games and that they went to far with it against the Bengals.
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<DRIPPING sarcasm>An opposing team taunting fans? Never.</DRIPPING sarcasm>

I'm sure they heard much worse from the fans than "cupping ears". Not to mention that I don't believe for a second that they were taunting the fans BECAUSE of the injury. These are professionals, and such an act would have brought forth widespread outrage...even fines. They were taunting the crowd because they were winning, there is no correlation to the injury.

buckeyefool said:
As far as nevewr seeing Bengals fans before this year, again I ask you up until 3 years ago where could you get Bengals stuff? On their website, which really up until last year was horriblly designed. You would go into a store and they would look at you like you were on crack if you asked about any Bengals gear because no one carried it. And then 2 years ago they all started carryng stuff. I have know a ton of people in columbus who have always be fans of the bengals, getting together to watch games etc. Who Dey is not something new it has been around since the 80's and most Bengals fans I know have greeted each other with that term when ever they see someone in Bengals gear. And before you make some other comment about who dey being stupid let me remind you that you cheer for a team who has fans that bark at each other and wear actual dog bones and dog biscuits, all this while their mascot is an elf.
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Simple economics, my friend. Demand would spawn supply. You are suggesting that you don't see Bengals gear because no one carried it and that there were flocks of Cincinnati fans that were denied team apparel. If such is the case, you are basically also suggesting that one of the following scenerios is true:

1. Merchandisers don't want to make a profit from Bengals fans.
2. There is a conspiracy to withold gear from a large number of Bengal fans.

Is my logic flawed? I mean, I would think that a company would be frothing at the mouth to find such a huge fanbase that can't find team apparel. Maybe not.

buckeyefool said:
I really annoys me that anyone esp. Browns fans sit here and try to tell Bengals fans when and how they can support their teams. Lokk at attendance records, even through the tough years Bengals fans have been loyal showing up year in and year out. Are their bandwagon fans? Yup, just like every other team when they have sucessful years. But the point is this whole attitude that Bengals fans were to excited about making the playoffs etc is insane what do you expect people to say or do? Be like ohh we made the playoffs, hmmm well i can't get excited this year because we haven't been there in awhile. thats just fucking stupid. So get off your high horse and go eat you kibble and bits and come talk to me when the Browns have a 1st round draft pick that doesn't suck
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See the following post for my argument regarding team support. This includes an excel document (current up until this year) displaying an above average correlation between the Bengals record and their attendance, while the Browns actually have an inverse correlation between record and attendance. You will also notice how much Browns attendance outweighs Bengals attendance even with the three "no team" years included.

http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/showpost.php?p=241958&postcount=50

I suspect that, with the Bengal bandwagon in full swing this year, the correlation has become even greater. I have no trouble with a fanbase getting excited, it's arrogance and the entire "bandwagon syndrome" that I can't stand. A team only one year removed from a decade in the crapper, has no business being arrogant. I realize that there are a lot of loyal Bengal fans on this board...but for every one of you, I can show you a member of the "good-times crew" that just traded in their Cowboy/Packer/Patriots gear for a brand new Carson Palmer jersey.

...I guess the entire Bengals fan faction on here is well aware of all of my opinions on the matter, and I know I'm generally hated by the group as a whole. Being Cincy fans, I'm not going to convince you. Being a Bengals hater, you aren't going to convince me. I have no problem agreeing to disagree and not wasting any more of your time or my work production.

Tibor...I know you are watching and laughing about having stirred this pot back up...you dirty hooker. :lol:
 
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Here's a letter I just sent to Peter King

I found your comment regarding the tens of thousands of Steelers fans who will pack Detroit very interesting. Living in Pittsburgh, I can tell you that the passion for Steeler football is very, very, real. But we must also acknowledge the real reason this passion is so strong - there is really nothing else that this city has going for it. The employment situation is dismal, the city's finances are in trouble, the restaurants are bad, the young people are moving, and the other sports teams are in serious, serious trouble. So, let us praise the Steeler passion, but let us also take it as something that is quite frankly, somewhat pathetic.
 
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OilerBuck said:
2. There is a conspiracy to withold gear from a large number of Bengal fans. :lol:
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There are lots of Conspiracy Theories put forth by Bungle fans. I alluded to this in another thread. :

The Steelers only won because they cheated'. The message has been pounded home over and over now. Maybe NFL films will put together an expose piece showing how evil they are. Maybe they will show those secret pictures of Bill Cowher shaking hands with Osama Bin Laden. I hope they also show the part where Pittsburgh engaged in a Republican-sponsored conspiracy to take Palmer down so the population of Cincinnati can be punished for voting against the evil bastard Bush. They would also, I'm sure, show how Big Ben is merely a puppet-quarterback, controlled by the Pentagon in their never-ending efforts to rig all American sports only so they can win big on sports betting to fund a super-secret spy agency deployed to ruin the life of every Bengals fan. In fact, I would not be surprised to see congress initiate a round of hearings to discuss the validity of disbanding the Steelers altogether; dispersing their assets evenly amongst all of the other teams and banning any of their players from ever playing again or to ever make it into the HOF. That may be hard to pass in the Republican Senate, though. I also seem to remember a photo showing Terry Bradshaw holding a rifle in one hand and the Cincinnati phonebook in the other, too. Lynn Swan is known to be one of the founding members of Pittsburgh's notorious Crips gang. The terrible towel is a reference to awful locker room hazing rituals practiced by KKK members during the height of the civil rights movement.
 
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FlagCityBuck;654246; said:
The "Who Dey" hoopla has greatly subsided in recent weeks...wonder if there is any correlation? :lol:
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Even as a Bengals fan, I've got to say "Thank God." That's the silver lining in the cloud of a 1-4 stretch. That chant makes me want to kill puppies.
 
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