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OC/WR Coach Brian Hartline (National Champion)

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Which Buckeye had the greatest impact on the Ohio State history of the position he played?

  • Brian Hartline

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Weird opinion but I don’t think Hartline needs or wants this promotion.

Dude is getting HC calls from West Virginia as a WR coach.

(1) bad year as a play-caller probably damages him way more than staying at WR coach where he keeps the best WR in the nation…by far.

He already has the Co-OC title anyways.

I don’t think he needs play-calling duties just bc he’s dominated the WR race….if he really wants it, cool. But I’m not sure that’s the case. I think he’s comfortable with the Co-OC title bc it pays him his worth.

I think Hartline is happy in current role and waiting for the right Head Coach position before he moves on.
 
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RugbyBuck said:
For all we know, he's a better caller than Day, at this point. I don't see Hartline getting punked into repeatedly running 32-dives and Day wouldn't give him the reins before Kelly showed up. We'll never know, of course, but my guess is that if Hartline was calling The Game last year, we win 49 - 13.
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Seems like he’s got the balls to do the job and is willing to put them on the table for everyone to see them.

If we get a top-flight DC with experience enough to keep his side of the ball running smoothly and a OL coach who is either a bit senior and can either develop or recruit, I’m fine to have Hartline call plays.

It will be interesting to see if he’s offered and if so, if he wants it.
 
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I have zero doubt that Hartline wants to be the sole, play-calling OC. He’s an alpha. He’s not afraid of failure. He wants to be the OSU HC. He needs to be seen as running one side of the ball.

He likely will need help with the running game (presumably from the OL coach). That’s not Day’s expertise either. Need to hire a top OL coach who can be a true running game coordinator and a top recruiter.
 
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CMic said:
I have zero doubt that Hartline wants to be the sole, play-calling OC. He’s an alpha. He’s not afraid of failure. He wants to be the OSU HC. He needs to be seen as running one side of the ball.

He likely will need help with the running game (presumably from the OL coach). That’s not Day’s expertise either. Need to hire a top OL coach who can be a true running game coordinator and a top recruiter.
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I am most definitely good with Hartline taking over the OC position, I think he is at the stage of his career where he is ready to make that jump if he wants it (and I think you are right, he probably does). Plus you think he had to learn a ton from Chip even though it was for one year.

On the bolded text from your post, this x1000%. If we don't have someone that is tantamount to Kelly/Frye for the run game, I would have serious concerns for our run game. I think that will be the case though, Day seems to know that is not his forte and hence why he completely delegated that to Kelly/Frye.
 
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CMic said:
I have zero doubt that Hartline wants to be the sole, play-calling OC. He’s an alpha. He’s not afraid of failure. He wants to be the OSU HC. He needs to be seen as running one side of the ball.

He likely will need help with the running game (presumably from the OL coach). That’s not Day’s expertise either. Need to hire a top OL coach who can be a true running game coordinator and a top recruiter.
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The run game is my biggest fear with a new OC too.

A good run game will take a lot of pressure off of a young QB and OC.

I'm not afraid of a Hartline/Day duo running the offense turning into Mike Leach...but I fear it could be close to that and they would want to throw the ball 80% of the time if they don't have an effective scheme to run the ball.
 
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CMic said:
I have zero doubt that Hartline wants to be the sole, play-calling OC. He’s an alpha. He’s not afraid of failure. He wants to be the OSU HC. He needs to be seen as running one side of the ball.

He likely will need help with the running game (presumably from the OL coach). That’s not Day’s expertise either. Need to hire a top OL coach who can be a true running game coordinator and a top recruiter.
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Kevin Wilson as an analyst / run game coordinator. Recruiting o-line seems to be a trick, not sure Wilson fits there as true o-line coach. Ross Fulton was talking about this on one of the podcasts.
 
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Why do so many think that Hartline would just eschew the run game if he became the OC? He saw what Locklyn did with the RBs this year, and he's played football his entire life, he of all people knows how the run game can drastically help the passing game. He was one of the better blocking WRs when at OSU and with the Dolphins. If Day thinks he's ready, then why not give him the play calling duties, Day was doing it in his early 30s, and Hartline is 38. If Hartline is getting interview for HC positions, then he should be able to call plays, one would think
 
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RugbyBuck said:
For all we know, he's a better caller than Day, at this point. I don't see Hartline getting punked into repeatedly running 32-dives and Day wouldn't give him the reins before Kelly showed up. We'll never know, of course, but my guess is that if Hartline was calling The Game last year, we win 49 - 13.
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Yeah sorry I’ve seen this movie one too many times. Fans think a coach can’t fuck up with the amount of talent OSU has…then act surprised when said coach fucks up lol.

I remember a time when I thought Beck/Warriner couldn’t fuck up one of the most loaded OSU offenses of my lifetime.

Life always finds a way.
 
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Well, this topic has been parsed plenty. Anyone know of a HC that didn't either put in the time as a play caller for the D or the O? I cannot remember one. Am thinking that it ends up with Kevin Wilson getting the nod, and mentoring Hartline as a play caller. Plus being the OLine coach. Call it silly, but don't really believe Hartline wants to give up his sideline duties as WR coach. He looks like he's having too much fun, congratulating WRs coming back to sidelines after making a great play. Do believe that Day ought to pony up some of his $10mm salary to us Buckeye Planeters for giving him such great ideas, however.
 
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calibuck said:
Well, this topic has been parsed plenty. Anyone know of a HC that didn't either put in the time as a play caller for the D or the O? I cannot remember one. Am thinking that it ends up with Kevin Wilson getting the nod, and mentoring Hartline as a play caller. Plus being the OLine coach. Call it silly, but don't really believe Hartline wants to give up his sideline duties as WR coach. He looks like he's having too much fun, congratulating WRs coming back to sidelines after making a great play. Do believe that Day ought to pony up some of his $10mm salary to us Buckeye Planeters for giving him such great ideas, however.
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Urban Meyer and Jim Tressel both went from position coaches to HC's. Dabo Swinney at Clemson.

John Harbaugh and Dan Campbell in the NFL.

There's way more examples too....it's not that uncommon. Some guys show such great leadership regardless of role on the staff, that there's a belief they can manage the entire team/staff as a HC.
 
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System_id said:
Yeah sorry I’ve seen this movie one too many times. Fans think a coach can’t fuck up with the amount of talent OSU has…then act surprised when said coach fucks up lol.

I remember a time when I thought Beck/Warriner couldn’t fuck up one of the most loaded OSU offenses of my lifetime.

Life always finds a way.
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I don't think I could compare Beck/Warriner to Hartline. B/W were pretty much nepotism hires, and were old and stubborn. Like @RugbyBuck said, I don't see Hartline being as stubborn as running 30 dives in a game when they see it isn't working. He's a former NFL player, he knows the ebs and flows of the game. How do you know if you have a young offensive mind if you just relegate him to recruiting and position coaching? Idk, this is all hypothetical, I'm fine with either scenario at this point: bring in the more experienced OC or just move forward with Hartline and let him learn on the fly.
I'm not the biggest fan of the Kevin Wilson retread, I think defending national champions shouldn't have to go to former hires if they don't need to. OSU should pursue the biggest names if they can, and if they still think Hartline is the best, then so be it. Wilson seems like a lazy hire to me. And OSU should swing for the fences on an OL coach as well
 
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