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NY Times says colleges are misrepresenting numbers to remain Title IX compliant

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It would seem that this is a significant story. The statement that colleges are intentionally reporting false numbers to the NCAA in order to remain within TItle IX guidelines sounds like athletic departments are guilty of fraud. Counting male practice players as women on a college sports team sounds like blatant cheating to me. It even sounds more diabolical than not reporting a potential situation involving extra benefits, but maybe that's just me.

But so far I can only find this link to a poll about Title IX.

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To produce an appearance of gender equity, colleges have given roster spots to unqualified players, counted male practice players as women and trimmed men's rosters.
CBS

Report: Schools fixing numbers to comply with Title IX

The New York Times is reporting many Division I schools are distorting their athletic participation numbers so they can remain compliant with Title IX.

The newspaper analyzed public records from more than 20 colleges and universities and federal participation statistics from all 345 institutions at the NCAA's highest level.

It found some schools were padding the rosters of women's teams with unqualified players, or counting athletes who no longer wanted to compete. The New York Times also reported Tuesday that schools counted male practice players as women and trimmed the rosters of men's teams.

Title IX was passed in 1972. The landmark federal legislation is designed to create equal educational opportunities for men and women.
 
Wait, you're saying an organization is lying to stay compliant with a government regulation?

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When you try to equate things that aren't equal this is what happens. Men's sports are more apt to cover their costs than women's sports. Sorry if that offends anyone, but that's reality. The only way to equate them is/will be the elimination of some men's sports, or fudging numbers.

There's a lesson here, btw.
 
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The NY Times article stated that something like 57% of college students are female, but only 47% of college athletes are female, and cited this as a problem.

My question - do more women want to play college sports? Is there really some barrier holding them back today, or is disinterest also a factor? I would like to see a study of female college students who are being actively held back from participating in sports.

Until we hear some great outcry of women who can show they are being oppressed, I think articles like this are missing the mark. 40 years ago Title IX was a great idea, but while the needs have changed, the language of the law has not. Title IX doesn't need an expose article like this, it needs to accurately reflect the needs of female student-athletes today.
 
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knapplc;1911925; said:
The NY Times article stated that something like 57% of college students are female, but only 47% of college athletes are female, and cited this as a problem.

My question - do more women want to play college sports? Is there really some barrier holding them back today, or is disinterest also a factor? I would like to see a study of female college students who are being actively held back from participating in sports.

Until we hear some great outcry of women who can show they are being oppressed, I think articles like this are missing the mark. 40 years ago Title IX was a great idea, but while the needs have changed, the language of the law has not. Title IX doesn't need an expose article like this, it needs to accurately reflect the needs of female student-athletes today.

I say instead of trying to match the number of female athletes to male athletes, simply give women the same number of scholarships for things they are good at. Like cooking, cleaning, ironing, etc. That should work out for everyone.
 
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scott91575;1911935; said:
I say instead of trying to match the number of female athletes to male athletes, simply give women the same number of scholarships for things they are good at. Like cooking, cleaning, ironing, etc. That should work out for everyone.
Shiiiiiit. You find a woman these days that's good at any of that shit, you'd better beat her hard enough that she's scared to leave you. It's all softball and field hockey nowadays.
 
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Muck;1911948; said:
The big to do over numbers of football walk-ons is amusing.

Just another terrible article from the NYT.

But but but the NYT is the BASTION of journalistic integrity dammit!!

Ok my Humanities teacher told me so...God I'm glad I'm done with that damned class
 
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Taosman;1911954; said:
As opposed to that great "fair and balanced" network? :tongue2:

Which one is that?

I know what you're saying, I don't watch or listen to them either. As a matter of fact since we have to keep the TV at work on the news for "situational awareness", we've created both a CNN and a Fox News drinking game :biggrin:
 
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knapplc;1911925; said:
The NY Times article stated that something like 57% of college students are female.

Where is the NY Times article discussing this discrepancy in college attendance. Do we need to form a "Men's Rights" group to address our under representation in college classrooms?
 
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