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Notre Dame @ tOSU, Sat Sep 3, 7:30PM (ABC)

Besides the colors of the clothes and the location.....what does something like 2005 Texas or 2009 USC have to do with 2022 ND?
Right, I feel like, despite my personal lingering dread, these guys have put in a helluva lot of work this offseason and seem to be taking it all with the right level of seriousness, so why should I saddle them with my ghosts of early season games past?
 
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Right, I feel like, despite my personal lingering dread, these guys have put in a helluva lot of work this offseason and seem to be taking it all with the right level of seriousness, so why should I saddle them with my ghosts of early season games past?

To answer both posts, because there is a consistent pattern of losses regardless of coaches, players or location irrespective of uniform colors. In fact, location is the worst variable, for some reason we fare worse in Columbus and win more on the road. I have the highest of hopes to completely curb-stomp the Domers on Saturday, but we've had real issues with ranked non-conference opponents in the last 10-15 years or so. And regardless of uniform color, Marcus Freeman is going to do everything to win this game...I hope that doesn't matter and he goes back to South Bend knowing there is a wide gap between our programs, but if we give them a sliver of hope I think ND makes us sweat this game out.

I get your point that the 2022 team should in no way be affected by past results and frankly, ND is ranked #5 but on paper is down on talent to have that ranking imo. But I think we isolate our attention to the talent and progress of our own team with news updates, and don't account for the other team doing the same thing. ND is at least a top-25 team and should present a challenge. Nobody will revel more than me if we beat them by 30 points+, but I think we need to come in with managed expectations. If we win by that margin, I will be the first one to celebrate. I just don't think it goes down like that.
 
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To answer both posts, because there is a consistent pattern of losses regardless of coaches, players or location irrespective of uniform colors. In fact, location is the worst variable, for some reason we fare worse in Columbus and win more on the road. I have the highest of hopes to completely curb-stomp the Domers on Saturday, but we've had real issues with ranked non-conference opponents in the last 10-15 years or so. And regardless of uniform color, Marcus Freeman is going to do everything to win this game...I hope that doesn't matter and he goes back to South Bend knowing there is a wide gap between our programs, but if we give them a sliver of hope I think ND makes us sweat this game out.

I get your point that the 2022 team should in no way be affected by past results and frankly, ND is ranked #5 but on paper is down on talent to have that ranking imo. But I think we isolate our attention to the talent and progress of our own team with news updates, and don't account for the other team doing the same thing. ND is at least a top-25 team and should present a challenge. Nobody will revel more than me if we beat them by 30 points+, but I think we need to come in with managed expectations. If we win by that margin, I will be the first one to celebrate. I just don't think it goes down like that.

Vegas doesn't have a Notre Dame bias. Their bias is to not end up in a metal drum at the bottom of Lake Mead. I trust Vegas over the voters.
 
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Besides the colors of the clothes and the location.....what does something like 2005 Texas or 2009 USC have to do with 2022 ND?
Those teams were physical and mostly imposed their will on really talented opposition (the first opponent was an all-timer).

This team is hoping to be "an okay Wisconsin D" against the run or better, to be able to challenge for a title.

That team had very, very inconsistent QB play. This team has the overwhelming favorite for both the heisman and #1 draft pick. Worst case, they're right nearby in both races.

That team enjoyed a suffocating, deafening during TV timeouts crowd. This team hopes to get 60% of that crowd support.

There's not much similarity here, other than fan demons.
 
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PRESSER BULLETS: RYAN DAY SAYS OHIO STATE "WANTS TO BE GREAT" AND HAS "A LOT TO PROVE," JIM KNOWLES SAYS BUCKEYE DEFENSE IS "100% READY" FOR NOTRE DAME

RYAN DAY
  • Day says the Notre Dame defense is "coached very well" and mixes up the styles they play. Day says Marcus Freeman "has his fingerprints all over the defense" but there's "a little bit of an unknown."
  • Kyle McCord would be the first quarterback in after C.J. Stroud for the Buckeyes, should they need a backup, Day says.
  • Day says TreVeyon Henderson and Miyan Williams will both definitely play at running back for Ohio State and that freshman Dallan Hayden could play as well against Notre Dame.
  • Day says stopping the run will be the key to the game for Ohio State, and Notre Dame runs the ball "very well." "That's where the games are won and lost, and we've certainly spent a lot of time on it."
  • On having a lot of recruits at the game, Day says it allows them an opportunity to see what the atmosphere is like at Ohio Stadium and "picture themselves being on that field."
  • Stroud and Jaxon Smith-Njigba have a "good connection" from high school that's only gotten stronger over the years.
  • On the connections between both coaching staffs, Day says "it's kinda unique" and that "it's a small world." Day says it adds to the excitement of the matchup.
  • Day says Notre Dame starting quarterback Tyler Buchner is "very talented."
  • On McCord, Day says "he's been in the program for a couple years. ... Kyle just has a little bit more experience, just has a little bit more under his belt." Day says "right now it's Kyle" as Ohio State's backup quarterback but that "things change."
  • Day says "it's exciting" that two prestigious midwest programs are meeting for a home-and-home series.
  • On having a returning starter at QB: "It's a different feel from last year. Everything was new last season." Day says even just communicating in-game will be easier now.
  • Day says "I hope it was big" that Marvin Harrison Jr., Emeka Egbuka and other young players for the Buckeyes got experience in the Rose Bowl.
  • On Steele Chambers: "Having a year under your belt of playing is important and I think that room is doing well." Day says the Buckeye LBs have a "wider scope" after an offseason under Knowles.
  • Day says Al Washington is a "good friend of mine" and will have guys "charged up" on the Notre Dame side.
  • On the tradition of both programs, Day says "it's hard to think about right now" but says "what a great opportunity" to have a special night.
  • "Every year is unique, but what's significant about this year is our schedule, bookended by Notre Dame and the team up north."
  • On the recruiting side of things, Day says "time will be limited" to catch up with recruits ahead of the game.
  • On Jim Tressel, Day says "he's had a tremendous impact on me." Day says the 2002 national championship team has had a large impact on Columbus and Ohio State in general.
  • Day says "we know what we have" on defense and the best guys will have to play a lot. Day says it will be "a lot different" than it was last year in terms of the substitutions.
  • Day says the Notre Dame pass rush is going to be a "huge challenge for Dawand (Jones)" at right tackle on the Buckeye offensive line.
  • On the expectations not getting to Ohio State's head: "Coming off last year, there's no big heads. We gotta go win this first game and they know that. ... They have a lot to prove."
  • Day says the Buckeye secondary is playing at "a very high level" right now and embracing the new scheme.
  • Day says the Buckeyes will decide at the end of the week whether or not Knowles will coach from the box or from the field.
  • "I can't tell you you sit there and sleep well at night, but at least we have more experience than last year." Day says "there's gonna be a lot of excitement in this game."
  • "I think we've had an excellent preseason." Day says "this team wants to be good and it has an edge to them."
  • Day says "the nation will be watching" on Saturday but "we can't make it bigger than it is, either."
  • On his excitement level for the Buckeye defense: "It's gonna be great to see. ... A bunch of guys running around with a lot of energy and a lot of confidence."
  • "This team wants to be great, and it's gonna start September 3rd."
  • Day says he didn't know Perry Eliano very well ahead of this offseason, but could tell he was "special" during his initial conversations with him. "Certainly somebody we're very fortunate to have on our staff."
  • On Matthew Jones, Day says he got in front of the team to share his experiences in the program recently. "There's a lot of people out there that maybe would've transferred. ... now he's got an opportunity to be a starter here at Ohio State."
Entire article (comments by Knowles, Stover, Hickman, & P. Johnson): https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...-a-lot-to-prove-against-notre-dame-names-kyle
 
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Lot of confidence in Ohio State from a neutral observer… even with the overall “they will cover and possibly make it uglier” vibes, I think people are really underestimating what a difference a competent coordinator is going to make for the dline. The players were “soft” and got shoved around last year because the scheme was trash, they were thinking about what they were supposed to do constantly and always reacting to the offense, which equals on your heels.

The players are elite and I think it’s going to be amazing watching them unleashed after two years in defensive hell.
 
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