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Notre Dame Fighting Irish (official thread of bowl failures)

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Notre Dame arrogance and delusions of grandeur on full display this morning. No, you're not going to join the Ivy League because they don't want you. You're not academically qualified to join the Ivy League. And neither are you an academic-football school like Stanford. Hell, you're not even Vanderbilt. Those two are FBS schools that are also AAU members. Notre Dame is nowhere near being an AAU member. What Notre Dame essentially is is a Catholic version of Wake Forest with some football history. And to answer your last bit of speculation, you won't become the University of Chicago if you drop football; you'll become Fordham.
 
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buckeyes_rock said:
Notre Dame is 0-8 in BCS and New Year's Six bowls since the 1993 season. Last win being Jan 1, 1994 in the Cotton Bowl vs A&M.
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So, over the past 25 years, every 3-4 years they have a schedule soft enough that the media can get them in a Bowl game they don't belong in.

For 25 years when that happens, they get smoked.

Paradoxically, this type of nonsense is why they are probably going to have to expand the playoffs. Not because it will be any more competitive in the early rounds but to weed out the fraudulent, 9 people making deals behind closed doors bullshit that ND thrives on.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
So, over the past 25 years, every 3-4 years they have a schedule soft enough that the media can get them in a Bowl game they don't belong in.

For 25 years when that happens, they get smoked.

Paradoxically, this type of nonsense is why they are probably going to have to expand the playoffs. Not because it will be any more competitive in the early rounds but to weed out the fraudulent, 9 people making deals behind closed doors bullshit that ND thrives on.
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Yup and it's why I'm all for giving conferences auto-bids. The only thing I'm wary of is the "At-large" teams, because you know there's gonna be some fuckery when teams 6-8 juuuuuussst so happen to be SEC teams.
 
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Systems_id said:
Yup and it's why I'm all for giving conferences auto-bids. The only thing I'm wary of is the "At-large" teams, because you know there's gonna be some fuckery when teams 6-8 juuuuuussst so happen to be SEC teams.
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if there is some kind of minimum maybe (the other side of the coin on auto bids is some 4 loss PAC 12 team getting an auto bid.

But that is yet another "how" discussion around playoff expansion.

The "why" is what interests me. Imo it isn't to make a more "fair" system or have a "true" champion. I think it's akin to an intervention. We all love the sport of CFB and want to save it from the media who is like your alcoholic brother with the car keys in his hands staggering out the door toward his sports car. The media has proven time and again they can't handle it. From the absurd bias we see in the polls to the slanted coverage by a network that has financial ties to 2 of the 5 conferences and including the ND pimping.

If Bama and Clemson continue to be kings of the hill, then so be it but you need to eliminate the shenanigans around the selection of teams that get the chance to go knock them off.

To me, that is the issue at play in CFB. You risk letting corporate greed (Disney) essentially disenfranchise/alienate whole sections of the country (midwest, west coast).
 
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Jaxbuck said:
if there is some kind of minimum maybe (the other side of the coin on auto bids is some 4 loss PAC 12 team getting an auto bid.

But that is yet another "how" discussion around playoff expansion.

The "why" is what interests me. Imo it isn't to make a more "fair" system or have a "true" champion. I think it's akin to an intervention. We all love the sport of CFB and want to save it from the media who is like your alcoholic brother with the car keys in his hands staggering out the door toward his sports car. The media has proven time and again they can't handle it. From the absurd bias we see in the polls to the slanted coverage by a network that has financial ties to 2 of the 5 conferences and including the ND pimping.

If Bama and Clemson continue to be kings of the hill, then so be it but you need to eliminate the shenanigans around the selection of teams that get the chance to go knock them off.

To me, that is the issue at play in CFB. You risk letting corporate greed (Disney) essentially disenfranchise/alienate whole sections of the country (midwest, west coast).
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I'd rather see the occasional 4 loss P5 champ in a playoff over the SEC-ACC Invitational, which is what espn will try very hard to create if it's simply some contrived best 8 teams formula or committee.

I think you'd be talking 2 at-large spots since the mid majors would probably get a spot. And yeah, there will be vickery involved. I think it would have to be a totally transparent formula using only computers and any games against FCS teams are thrown out.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Notre Dame arrogance and delusions of grandeur on full display this morning. No, you're not going to join the Ivy League because they don't want you. You're not academically qualified to join the Ivy League. And neither are you an academic-football school like Stanford. Hell, you're not even Vanderbilt. Those two are FBS schools that are also AAU members. Notre Dame is nowhere near being an AAU member. What Notre Dame essentially is is a Catholic version of Wake Forest with some football history. And to answer your last bit of speculation, you won't become the University of Chicago if you drop football; you'll become Fordham.
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They're not academically suited to join the Big10... it's a religious school. Baylor with deeper pockets.
 
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It seems ND fans aren't taking their embarrassing defeat very well, especially the ones who spent the last 4 weeks predicting victory and making wise cracks about Purdue. They haven't beaten Ohio State in over 80 years yet the sense of superiority continues.

The arrogance of a fan base of a team that's done jack shit the last 30 years never ceases to amaze. :lol:
 
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Jake said:
It seems ND fans aren't taking their embarrassing defeat very well, especially the ones who spent the last 4 weeks predicting victory and making wise cracks about Purdue. They haven't beaten Ohio State in over 80 years yet the sense of superiority continues.

The arrogance of a fan base of a team that's done jack shit the last 30 years never ceases to amaze. :lol:
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I've always thought them and scUM are cut from the same cloth. Only reason theyre not the 2nd rival PSU desperately wants to be is lack of history/games.
 
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